New rav 4 out and it is has exceptional lines on it. Others are implementing them and Mazda is taking it away. 2014 the CX-5 had looks above others easily. What is Mazda doing? Sad that a really fun to drive, better than the rest in class imo is going backwards. If they don't put the 2.5t in the CX-5 isn't going to keep selling.
new small suv's with flash
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Sorry, i think Toyota has been going the wrong way for years with their vehicles. The front grill on the new Rav 4 is not as ugly as other Toyota and Lexus, but body lines are boring. I love what Mazda has done with the CX-5 and other vehicles.
And statistic wise the 17 and 18 are kicking ass. So many of us are buying new even without the 2.5T - I don't think your statements accurately reflect what is actually happening.
<EDIT - boring comment was about current selling version - had not seen the new one - still ugly grill as on all other Toyota products>
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7eregrine
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You could at least show a pic of the new RAV4, slacker. 
Wow. I think that's a huge improvement. And much like Mazda I think it looks way more aggressive. This, to me, seems like Toyota following Mazda a bit...
I think ya' kinda' got it backwards.
Wow. I think that's a huge improvement. And much like Mazda I think it looks way more aggressive. This, to me, seems like Toyota following Mazda a bit...
I think ya' kinda' got it backwards.
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I think it looks good backend and all.
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You could at least show a pic of the new RAV4, slacker.
Wow. I think that's a huge improvement. And much like Mazda I think it looks way more aggressive. This, to me, seems like Toyota following Mazda a bit...
I think ya' kinda' got it backwards.
That almost reminds me of a Subaru Outback or Forester in looks. Wheels kinda like a Crosstrek.
Definitely an improvement though over the last RAV4, but still not my cup of tea.
Count me on the side that thinks Mazda went backwards a bit with their Gen 2 design. I don't hate everything about it, but there is a Gen 2 CX-5 in the office parking lot now, and every time I see that overbite of the hood and gigantic chrome piece, I throw up in my mouth a little (ok not really, but it looks just bad to me).
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You could at least show a pic of the new RAV4, slacker.
Wow. I think that's a huge improvement. And much like Mazda I think it looks way more aggressive. This, to me, seems like Toyota following Mazda a bit...
I think ya' kinda' got it backwards.
Ah, OK. I was looking at currently selling. I still don't like the grill, but looks better then the direction the RAV 4 was going. Yes, Toyota does appear to be following Mazda on this.
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The other front end is just as fugly..... same thing Toyota has been doing for a few years now. Sorry, i don't get it. I hate most Lexus and Toyota from the last few years because of what they are doing to the front.
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What? It looks more like they are taking after Subaru to me.
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Exactly!
have to give toyota credit for making the rav4 look good both inside and out
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/2019-toyota-rav4-suv-new-york-auto-show-awd/16/
still all depends on the drive quality though, CVTs..ehh
and hey it has android auto / apple car play
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/2019-toyota-rav4-suv-new-york-auto-show-awd/26/
hope this means mazda will follow suit
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/2019-toyota-rav4-suv-new-york-auto-show-awd/16/
still all depends on the drive quality though, CVTs..ehh
and hey it has android auto / apple car play
https://www.cnet.com/roadshow/pictures/2019-toyota-rav4-suv-new-york-auto-show-awd/26/
hope this means mazda will follow suit
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The profile looks good, as does the rear. So definitely better looking then past gens.
7eregrine
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(uhm)
Last time I checked, the statistic is still showing Mazda CX-5's US sales figures are at the bottom batch of compact CUV sales. In fact, Toyota RAV4 is still outselling Mazda CX-5 at least twice as many with older model. The only good news is Mazda CX-5 finally passed Subaru Forester on sales volume so far this year.
| Compact CUVs US Sales | 2017 | 2018 (to February) | February 2018 |
| Toyota RAV4 | 407,594 | 56,522 | 29,867 |
| Nissan Rogue | 403,465 | 74,303 | 38,119 |
| Honda CR-V | 377,895 | 50,178 | 25,852 |
| Ford Escape | 308,296 | 38,980 | 21,033 |
| Chevrolet Equinox | 290,458 | 50,458 | 24,053 |
| Subaru Outback | 188,886 | 27,300 | 14,021 |
| Subaru Forester | 177,563 | 22,488 | 11,640 |
| Jeep Cherokee | 169,882 | 26,846 | 12,225 |
| Mazda CX-5 | 127,563 | 26,679 | 13,216 |
| Hyundai Tucson | 114,735 | 16,076 | 8,438 |
| Kia Sportage | 72,824 | 11,579 | 5,867 |
