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BostonAmy

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Here is the quote I got from another dealership. I think this sounds great but I don't want to cave in and say yes this is great withour haggling LOL. How should I approach this?


Thank you for contacting Sentry Mazda,

My GSM did the numbers for the for you. The best deal would be that you can lease a 2007 Mazda CX-7 GT AWD with the Tech Pkg for $379 per month for 39 months with 15,000 miles per year. Taxes, title and registration fees are not included. He figured it with $1,000 down however we can alway adjust the numbers to work for you (more down or less down).

How does this sound?
 
That sounds like a pretty darn good deal to me. Usually down payments are much steeper than $1000. You're basically paying $404/mo. for the top-of-the-line CX-7. Hard to beat that if you've decided to lease instead of buy. By comparison, I'm paying that much per month on a middle-of-the-line CX-7 that I'm buying, BUT I'll have it 65% paid off after 39 months.
 
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Loaded with tech pkg....Sounds decent to me...it will be a little higher when they include tax and title etc. Just go back to him and negotiate a little more downward....doesn't hurt to try. Is that $1000 the total amount you will need...no first or last payment needed? What is the amount charged per mile if you go over the 15,000 a year?
 
Thanks for the replies. I thought that sounded like a good deal myself. How do i go about working the price downward on a lease? I just don't know how to work around the pesky "sales people." Also, how much of a difference does taxes and title make on the monthly payment? I would like to keep it around the $379 a month if possible.
 
Tell them you want that $379 monthly payment with taxes, title and license included and say then they have a deal and see what they say.
 
ooo just saw that was a 1k down payment, NEVER MAKE A DP ON A LEASE!!! i recind my last post lol not a good deal.
 
You should be able to get a better deal than that........these CX-7's are not moving at all for Mazda........be firm with NO MONEY DOWN. Try to lease for 24-36 months max, you'll be better off in the long run. Never put money down on a lease..........keep it in YOUR pocket!! By the way......what is the SELLING PRICE (negotiated price) on this CX-7??? You need this to run the numbers yourself......along with Money Factor and Residual.
 
vegasrph said:
You should be able to get a better deal than that........these CX-7's are not moving at all for Mazda........be firm with NO MONEY DOWN. Try to lease for 24-36 months max, you'll be better off in the long run. Never put money down on a lease..........keep it in YOUR pocket!! By the way......what is the SELLING PRICE (negotiated price) on this CX-7??? You need this to run the numbers yourself......along with Money Factor and Residual.

a) I've never heard of anyone getting no down payment for a car that expensive on a lease. Regardless, the extra $1000 isn't that big of a deal spread over 39 months ($25/mo.). Therefore, I don't see why it is such a dealbreaker.

b) Why do a 2-3 year lease max? It is a pain in the tail dealing with car dealerships. Signing up to have to shop around and screw with the whole process again in two years doesn't make sense to me.
 
jmhumr said:
a) I've never heard of anyone getting no down payment for a car that expensive on a lease. Regardless, the extra $1000 isn't that big of a deal spread over 39 months ($25/mo.). Therefore, I don't see why it is such a dealbreaker.
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never heard of no money down? then the people u have talked to got screwed. I have leased cars in the High 30k range without a dollar coming out of my pocket towards the sticker or anything else. you never lease with money down, no matter what car it is. Car cost/type makes 100% NO DIFFERENCE

its a deal breaker because ur paying cash up front for something you dont even own.

I leased a brand new Maxima GLE, stolen 1 month after i got it in 1995. Never leased again.
 
Consumer Reports Buying Guide on Leasing:
Lease a 2005 Subaru Outback wagon for 48 months with no money down and pay just $278 a month! Lease a 2004 Chrysler Pacifica with $2,500 down over 39 months and pay only $258 a month!

You'll be seeing more offers like these as manufacturers and car dealers look for lures other than 0 percent financing to get you into a car. And the deals do look tempting. After all, if you bought the same Subaru or Chrysler, financing them over the same time period, your monthly payment could be twice as high. Shouldn't you jump at the chance to lease?

The answer is yes, if you don't mind paying plenty for a car you'll have to return or buy at the end of the lease. The ads don't always show you the true total cost of leasing, which typically includes fees at the front end, fees at the back end, and higher finance charges along the way. Worse, if a year into the deal you decide that leasing is not for you, you can't walk away without paying substantial costs.

"The cheaper way to drive a new car is to buy with a loan and keep it as long as the wheels stay on," says Albert Hearn of Leaseguide.com, a Web site that provides free leasing information. Not everybody wants to do that, however. If you decide to lease your next car, you should understand how leasing works, how much you'll pay, and what pitfalls you could encounter.


Fees coming and going

Many people who lease have wound up with lousy deals because they focus on the monthly payment without understanding how much the car itself costs. Indeed, many leases are based on the manufacturer's suggested retail price (MSRP) instead of a lower price the buyer negotiates. Also piled on top of the MSRP are extra charges for insurance coverage, extended warranties, delivery fees, and other items consumers will have to finance. Over the past decade, the Florida attorney general's office found that at times dealers failed to give lessees credit for trade-ins, down payments, rebates, and dealer coupons.

So here's the deal. When you lease a car, you are not paying for its full value, only its projected loss in value--its depreciation--while it's in your use, typically 24 to 48 months. Over three years, a $30,000 car might lose half its value. The remaining half is the residual value. Paying back only half a car's value, of course, will leave you with a smaller monthly payment.

But there are offsets. First is the mileage restriction. Most leases limit your use to 10,000 to 15,000 miles per year. (Passenger cars average 12,200 miles a year.) Then there is a raft of fees. One biggie: the "lease acquisition fee," usually about $600, levied by the automaker or finance company underwriting the lease. It isn't always broken out on the contract, and dealers may quietly jack up the fee and pocket the difference. You may also have to pay a security deposit, which typically equals one month's lease payment. It's refunded unless you default.

When you turn in the car at the end of the lease, you will encounter another set of fees: the "lease disposal fee," which runs about $395; and 15 to 30 cents per mile for exceeding the mileage limit in the lease agreement. (Drive fewer miles, and you've wasted your money for depreciation you didn't use.) Finally, there are charges for "excess wear and tear," which cover all but the smallest mechanical or cosmetic fixes.


The money factor

Another significant cost is the lease finance charge. You might not think you'd pay a finance charge on a car you're just borrowing, but consider this: When you drive away in a $30,000 car, you're tying up someone's investment, just as if you took out a loan. So although you're not buying the car outright, you'll still be paying monthly finance charges.

Complicating the matter is the fact that the finance charge is not usually expressed as an interest rate but as a "money factor." To determine the equivalent interest rate, multiply by 2,400. The finance charges for lessees are generally higher than for buyers. Worse, dealers sometimes simply mark up the money factor.

The finance charges on a $30,000 leased car over a three-year period might be around $3,898, or about $1,027 higher than with a three-year loan, even if the annual interest rate for both was 5.7 percent. The extra lease costs would be partially offset by lower sales taxes. (Most states charge sales tax on lease payments instead of on the entire value of the automobile, as they do on a loan.)


Other roads to a lower payment

So a lease isn't the cheapest way to go. But what are you to do if you can't afford loan payments for that shiny new ride?

One option is a car loan with a longer term. As a general rule, loans are less costly than leases of the same duration and interest rate. And a long-term loan, say over 60 months, is likely to cost much less than leasing twice over the same period, assuming you'll keep the vehicle for the entire length of the loan. If your plan, however, is to sell or trade in the vehicle early on a long-term loan, you could pay more than if you'd simply leased to start with.

You might also consider purchasing a reliable, well-maintained used car. After all, it's new to you. Many cars operate well even when they are a decade old.


What to do

If you decide to lease, make sure you understand the deal before signing anything. Here's how to avoid overpaying.


Learn more. Before stepping into a dealership, visit www.leaseguide.com and www.leasetips.com, and read the Federal Reserve's consumer leasing guide at www.federalreserve.gov/pubs/leasing.


Negotiate the car price. Before even whispering the word "lease" at a dealership, haggle as if you were buying. Only after you've settled on a price should you announce that you want to lease. Price information is available from the Consumer Reports New Car Price Service and at other car Web sites.


Buy extra miles up front. If you know you'll drive more than the agreement allows, ask for more miles to be included in the lease. The extra cost won't be as high as an excess-mileage penalty. Some finance companies will give you a refund on miles purchased in advance that were not used.


Study the agreement. Pay particular attention to restrictions, penalties, and end-of-lease procedures. Verify that everything is exactly as you negotiated. Examine the capitalized cost, which is the sum of the negotiated vehicle price and any fees, minus the value of any trade-in and down payment. If it's higher than you expect, don't sign until you find out why.


Check the calculations. Before signing, write down the lease specifics and verify the numbers using a lease calculator, such as the free one at www.bankrate.com. You'll need to jot down the capitalized cost, term, residual value, and money factor. Remember to multiply it by 2,400.
 
hello Amy

BostonAmy said:
Here is the quote I got from another dealership. I think this sounds great but I don't want to cave in and say yes this is great withour haggling LOL. How should I approach this?


Thank you for contacting Sentry Mazda,

My GSM did the numbers for the for you. The best deal would be that you can lease a 2007 Mazda CX-7 GT AWD with the Tech Pkg for $379 per month for 39 months with 15,000 miles per year. Taxes, title and registration fees are not included. He figured it with $1,000 down however we can alway adjust the numbers to work for you (more down or less down).

How does this sound?
i sent you a private message in the other forum, let me know when you got it, Tom from Mehtuen
 
The cheap deals they advertise are your base vehicle with little to no options. Try not to put money down. Make sure you know and have negotiated the cost of the car first. Put in leasing tips and there are websites that can give you some tips and help you understand how a lease works and what to look out for. Good luck!
 
jmhumr said:
a) I've never heard of anyone getting no down payment for a car that expensive on a lease. Regardless, the extra $1000 isn't that big of a deal spread over 39 months ($25/mo.). Therefore, I don't see why it is such a dealbreaker.

b) Why do a 2-3 year lease max? It is a pain in the tail dealing with car dealerships. Signing up to have to shop around and screw with the whole process again in two years doesn't make sense to me.

a) I've never put any money down on a lease in my life.

b) I did a 2 year lease on my CX-7 for a lower payment than a 3 year lease was being quoted at most other mazda dealers.. for me this is perfect as I want a new vehicle as often as possible anyway.
 

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