New product announcement!

[saided18]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New product announcement!

That appears to be just some resistor that he is selling for all vehicles. This has been designed and built specifically for the mazdaspeed. It has the values that match the MSP's needs, not just some generic setup that should work.. It also has a clamp built in to clamp the voltage right before the point of fuel cut- again, what the hell do you think the $185 HKS FCD is? As always, it is people like you that ruin it for everyone else.. If you don't want it, don't but it- but don't make it out to be some garbage item that doesn't work. It does EXACTLY what I say it does, I know because I USE IT. I am trying to make stuff that WORKS for the MSP- not only for your cars, but I run everything I make on mine- so as I improve my car, I "clean" the item up and make it "sale-worthy". If someone wants an FCD for their car, why the hell should they spend $180+ when the SAME THING is available for $40-$50???? For ***** sake, there is always one to piss in your face. No wonder a rep from one of your vendors laughed and said "you still ******* with those message board idiots? Why waste your time, it's a lost cause." in one of our conversations. No offense to the rest of you, but this crap is getting really old. Try it- if it doesn't eliminate fuel cut, then you can call it snake oil for all I care.
Joe

omfg :wtf: no one is allowed question your product? you MUST take you word for it? this is the internet man. it's very easy for some one to come on and start making these claims about his product. that why i said "prove me wrong". i think you need to calm down.

and for that "vendor" you speak of. i wish you would tell me who it is? it seems that alot of vendors come on this site thinking they are going to make load of money and sell alot of there product and get angry when they don't. they dont' see that is hard for one just to take some one word on a product with out seeing picture or anything like that.

like i was looking to get a carbonfiber hood but the guy doesn't have a picutre of the hood want. and on top of that shipping and taxes and what not will be $300. sorry i'm not going to pay $1000 for a CF hood. just not worth it. they guy has a GREAT product. i seen picutres of a red CF hood and it looks good quality but it's just to much money to ship and for tax.

thats the reason why people don't buy AutoExe. it would cost 500 to get the lip and then another 100-200 to paint it. just for a lip.

just remember. it's the internet. i don't know who you are and what are your intentions.

next time calm down and explain your position in a calm maner. don't rip some one head of if they are a little skeptical.

 

[1sty]

Joe, if someone calls bs just refer them to a customer that has a proven run at over 10 PSI with your device. That is atleast some proof.

This is simply marketing advice, I don't care if your selling maccaroni velocity shooters that can take somene out from 90 yards .

its all about backing up your claims, without dynos and flow tests and everythig else only trust is left. Hell, flyin miata has one of the best reputations in the industry but even they dyno test and prove as best they can everything they make. Its a funamental neccesity in the performance industry.

 

[boostisgood]

You all want proof, no problems, Ill be DYNO TESTING JOES s*** IN 2 WEEKS, after I get back from IREV in JErsey. HEll if they got a dyno at the show. ILL ****** DYNO IT THERE , IN FRONT OF ALL THE MAGAZINES, CONTESTANTS, AND YOU IF YOU WANNA SHOW UP.

There, Give it 2 weeks tops, and you will have dyno proven results. (sorry for the jumping in here Joe, but I know your rep, and I respect you as a tuner. I felt compelled )

 

[1sty]

The product in question is a fuel cut blocker, how will a dyno prove that the car effectively boosted over 10 PSI?

Even a simple video showing a boost guage hitting 12 psi and stayign there for a short time would be sufficient for this product.

Dynoing is all well and good but don't forge the baseline and the correction .

 

[saided18]

Not to speak for Joe directly, but you all HAVE to remember, he has come to us from the DSM world. He is a highly respect tuner in thier realm.

how do i know this??? yet again it's the internet and not a small town where everyone knows everyone

but if you think any product is B.S. dont jsut outright call it, ask for an exlplanation of the product, and its benefits, not just outright call B.S.

well thats the whole point of calling B.S. to make the person stop and explain his product more. right?

 

[kwiktsi]

Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: New product announcement!

omfg :wtf: no one is allowed question your product? you MUST take you word for it? this is the internet man. it's very easy for some one to come on and start making these claims about his product. that why i said "prove me wrong". i think you need to calm down.

and for that "vendor" you speak of. i wish you would tell me who it is? it seems that alot of vendors come on this site thinking they are going to make load of money and sell alot of there product and get angry when they don't. they dont' see that is hard for one just to take some one word on a product with out seeing picture or anything like that.

like i was looking to get a carbonfiber hood but the guy doesn't have a picutre of the hood want. and on top of that shipping and taxes and what not will be $300. sorry i'm not going to pay $1000 for a CF hood. just not worth it. they guy has a GREAT product. i seen picutres of a red CF hood and it looks good quality but it's just to much money to ship and for tax.

thats the reason why people don't buy AutoExe. it would cost 500 to get the lip and then another 100-200 to paint it. just for a lip.

just remember. it's the internet. i don't know who you are and what are your intentions.

next time calm down and explain your position in a calm maner. don't rip some one head of if they are a little skeptical.

It was the way your post came accross with the :bs: and such. I am not some snake oil dealer, as someone else has mentioned, I have been doing this stuff for a long time (almost 7 years!!) with DSM's. I didn't just decide to come here and "manufacture" claims and products- I bought the MSP for mysels and decided to make parts for it, so I make it first for myself and decide whether or not I am going to sell it later. I understand the reasons for being skeptical with all the net BS out there, but I thought it was understood that I have been around a while and am well respected and long proven .. Hell- my friends break my balls whenever we go to a car show- when we walk by the DSM guys they say stuff like "Yo, everyone- Joe P. is in the house" and even *I* am amazed (and embarrassed) by all the people that turn around and say "You're Joe P???? No way, really???? Oh my god, you are like a god here"- yes, believe it or not, that exact statement was made- which is what led my friends to the ball busting .. We can be at a restaurant and they pull the same crap in the middle of everyone and I would say 3 out of 5 times, someone will turn around and say "the boost controller guy?".. Like I said, it is quite embarrassing .
Joe

 

[kwiktsi]

Joe, if someone calls bs just refer them to a customer that has a proven run at over 10 PSI with your device. That is atleast some proof.

This is simply marketing advice, I don't care if your selling maccaroni velocity shooters that can take somene out from 90 yards .

its all about backing up your claims, without dynos and flow tests and everythig else only trust is left. Hell, flyin miata has one of the best reputations in the industry but even they dyno test and prove as best they can everything they make. Its a funamental neccesity in the performance industry.

Hehe, until others buy it and word spreads to the rest of you, only I am running over 10 psi with it .. I have been up to 15, but don't want to hold it and pop anything .. The offer stands to anyone in the area and has for a while- anytime you want to take the car for a spin, you are welcome to ..

the difference between me and Flyin Miata though is price- I can do all that, but the expense of it all is reflected in the products price. I can't sell things for what I do if I had all the additional overhead ..
Joe

 

[servoeyes]

Listen...Joe's already said you're not gonna see a real dyno difference here. It's all to increase drivability...he's offereing it up for sale. Let someone buy it first, then try it out, and if it's bs then so be it...but you just run up and call everything bs before it's even had the chance to be proven. How would a similar product by HKS or Greddy be proven to work without someone using it first? People would just trust it..You can't judge drivability mods without drive testing.

And you're right, 1st...there isn't a line as a consumer...however, proven providers do deserve some benefit of the doubt.

As for jumping on large companies and calling BS...it's been done...just look at the Injen threads

 

[kwiktsi]

You all want proof, no problems, Ill be DYNO TESTING JOES s*** IN 2 WEEKS, after I get back from IREV in JErsey. HEll if they got a dyno at the show. ILL ****** DYNO IT THERE , IN FRONT OF ALL THE MAGAZINES, CONTESTANTS, AND YOU IF YOU WANNA SHOW UP.

There, Give it 2 weeks tops, and you will have dyno proven results. (sorry for the jumping in here Joe, but I know your rep, and I respect you as a tuner. I felt compelled )

He does have a good point, I gues sI am so used to having the rep. with the DSM guys that it is hard for me to adjust to being the "new guy on the block" all over again ..

Maybe I'll try to video the boost gauge for the non-believers . I would just rather not hold it at any more than 11 psi until I get colder plugs in it due to detonation over a long run... Not gonna blow my motor for video footage :.
Joe

 

[1sty]

Whats up with you and snake oil?
You intp somefreaky s*** on the side.

What does DSM mean, Deviant sexual Madman?
(rofl)


On a serious note though. DSM reputation is not enough to carry you to success here. Fallow Spoolins example.
When you make a product, test the b**** and get some proof up you can always refer to in the instance of :bs: calls.
ONce you make a reputation somewhere the rest is easy as you know from your DSM crowd. Unfortunitly its been to long since you were put through the guantlet and you have become soft.
Don't worry we will toughen you back up soon enough.
You will be forged in pure Protege sceptablility and mistrust!
(thumb)

 

[kwiktsi]

As for jumping on large companies and calling BS...it's been done...just look at the Injen threads

Ouch, you got me there .. It wasn't Injen specifically, but the cost and the need for a CAI on a turbo car (please, don't let this start up again ). I will admit though, the MSP can use any help it can get as for cooler air and more air flow due to the mapping .
Joe

 

[1sty]

He does have a good point, I gues sI am so used to having the rep. with the DSM guys that it is hard for me to adjust to being the "new guy on the block" all over again ..

Maybe I'll try to video the boost gauge for the non-believers . I would just rather not hold it at any more than 11 psi until I get colder plugs in it due to detonation over a long run... Not gonna blow my motor for video footage :.
Joe

Anything at 10 or above would seem to prove your point.
Make 2 videos, 1 with the circuit in place and aother without it so the difference is obvious.

 

[kwiktsi]

Whats up with you and snake oil?
You intp somefreaky s*** on the side.

What does DSM mean, Deviant sexual Madman?
(rofl)


On a serious note though. DSM reputation is not enough to carry you to success here. Fallow Spoolins example.
When you make a product, test the b**** and get some proof up you can always refer to in the instance of :bs: calls.
ONce you make a reputation somewhere the rest is easy as you know from your DSM crowd. Unfortunitly its been to long since you were put through the guantlet and you have become soft.
Don't worry we will toughen you back up soon enough.
You will be forged in pure Protege sceptablility and mistrust!
(thumb)

Hahahhahah (rofl) (rofl) (rofl)
Joe

 

[kwiktsi]

Anything at 10 or above would seem to prove your point.
Make 2 videos, 1 with the circuit in place and aother without it so the difference is obvious.

That's too much like work for me . I'll just wait for someone who experiences fuel cut to say it is gone for you guys .
Joe

 

[1sty]

That's too much like work for me . I'll just wait for someone who experiences fuel cut to say it is gone for you guys .
Joe

The problem with that is you have 2 people do the same mod from the board and one usualy says it helped and the other says it hurt.

Personal experience form someone that isn't a formaly excepted expert isn't going to get you anywhere.

If the problem is visiable in the guages of the car then simply film them and the result with your product in place. There has to be some MSP owner around NY that will be willing to pu the device on and do some amature filming.

Although I would want to see what you usualy do with a camera, snake oil boy .

 

[LinuxRacr]

Folks seem to forget that in time all truth is revealed. Some people should sit back, shut up, and learn something. Other than that, go ahead, ask some intelligent questions. Venders be responsive, and helpful. How hard is that? Keep negative s*** to yourself. I don't have a single person in mind when I say this.

 

[UFO70]

bingo

 

[MazdaspeedZOOM]

You know I've only been a member for about a little while now, and I am already pretty hooked on what joe is offereing to the Mazdaspeed crowd. I know a lot of people respect him, and I've seen the posts of people making great claims to how his products do work. The other thing I see a lot of is in every post that Joe has somthing to say about a Mazdaspeed making power, or a product he has to offer, or bascially anything he has to say about helping us out, he's counter attacked by people who don't even own them. Especially 1st MP3 in NH, who doesn't even own a MSP. Now I'm sure he has experiance with cars, and turbo'ed cars, but how can you make commments about joes products and the support that he's offereing when you don't even own the damn car. I say go, get a MSP, join us and the problems were facing, and you to will be welcoming Joe's fixes...

 

[1sty]

, he's counter attacked by people who don't even own them. Especially 1st MP3 in NH, who doesn't even own a MSP. Now I'm sure he has experiance with cars, and turbo'ed cars, but how can you make commments about joes products and the support that he's offereing when you don't even own the damn car. I say go, get a MSP, join us and the problems were facing, and you to will be welcoming Joe's fixes...

Did you eat led paint chips as a kid?

I have NEVER insulted Joe's Product.
I have never insulted or even commented on Joe's customer support.
I have never insulted Joe's abilities.

Try rereading this thread with your head properly removed from your ass!

 

[MazdaspeedZOOM]

Did you eat led paint chips as a kid?

I have NEVER insulted Joe's Product.
I have never insulted or even commented on Joe's customer support.
I have never insulted Joe's abilities.

Try rereading this thread with your head properly removed from your ass!

Hey ****-tard, did I even mention anything about you commenting on joe's customer support. As for your commenting on joe's product, your doing it right now on this product, and prove this and that, and b**** b**** b****, moan moan moan. You want me to read an entire thread with my head out my ass, thats more difficult and takes more time, all i need is for you to read a single post with that pole out your ass...