New MSP. Wondering upgrades...

[wicked]

If I had to do it all over agian,I would have started with a MPI tuner(around 700),then gotten a turbohoses hard pipes and SMIC(thats side mount intercooler)and intake,then exhaust.

and A mutha ****** wideband.

 

[xxxFRIARxxx]

Entire project? 3k max.

For now? 1k max.

I'd like to eventually get it to the 250hp range.

 

[poboxjosh]

Entire project? 3k max.

For now? 1k max.

I'd like to eventually get it to the 250hp range.

prob not gonna get to 250 for 3k.
any intercooler 1k.
any engine management. 700 min.
turbo back exhaust. min 700.
internals 1000 min.

not including any labor.
250 whp without forged internals very unlikely

 

[yesiownaskyline]

3K...

1) corksport exhaust with downpipe, CAI/SRI (intake), guages including boost, wideband, voltage or other. That will take a bit over $1000.

2)Front mount intercooler from hiboost (900) or other used one, along with MPI (700 new) and all setup materials, i.e. boost controller, injectors, labor, etc.


Thatll put you at about $3000 and MAYBE 200-225, but also put you in the ticking timebomb zone (clutch, tranny, and internals will wear out very fast). Just a word to the wise though, the rods in this motor are weak. anything over 9-10psi through the stock motor and you are playing with fire... If you want those numbers safely, i suggest reevaluating your project and going forged. Most people running that hp range have built motors or AT LEAST aftermarket rods/pistons...

 

[poboxjosh]

3K...

1) corksport exhaust with downpipe, CAI/SRI (intake), guages including boost, wideband, voltage or other. That will take a bit over $1000.

2)Front mount intercooler from hiboost (900) or other used one, along with MPI (700 new) and all setup materials, i.e. boost controller, injectors, labor, etc.


Thatll put you at about $3000 and MAYBE 225-250, but also put you in the ticking timebomb zone (clutch, tranny, and internals will wear out very fast). Just a word to the wise though, the rods in this motor are weak. anything over 9-10psi through the stock motor and you are playing with fire... If you want those numbers safely, i suggest reevaluating your project and going forged. Most people running that hp range have built motors or AT LEAST aftermarket rods/pistons...

I think closer to 200 than 250.

 

[yesiownaskyline]

yeah youre right... edited just for you... what can i say, im an optimist. (laugh)

 

[poboxjosh]

yeah youre right... edited just for you... what can i say, im an optimist. (laugh)

 

[azian6er]

for 3K this is the best way... listen to me i have been through it ALL...

gt28rs turbo (995 dollars) bolts up to stock location.
wideband o2 sensor (350 dollars)
AWR motor mounts (120 dollars)
Full 3 inch exhaust (800-900 for name brand, 400-500 for muffler shop)
Electronic Boost controller (Greddy Profec SPec B series 1 300 dollars)
Custom intake (40 dollars made your self)
Frount Mount intercooler (900-1000 dollars)

Total : 3205 dollars

this is plenty for 250 whp, and i believe is the best bang for the buck. With the bigger turbo, the AFR's drop right into place where they should have been stock with the gt28rs at 11 psi. and you can keep an eye for the afr's with your wideband to make sure.

colder plugs of course too.

-B

 

[yesiownaskyline]

for 3K this is the best way... listen to me i have been through it ALL...

gt28rs turbo (995 dollars) bolts up to stock location.
wideband o2 sensor (350 dollars)
AWR motor mounts (120 dollars)
Full 3 inch exhaust (800-900 for name brand, 400-500 for muffler shop)
Electronic Boost controller (Greddy Profec SPec B series 1 300 dollars)
Custom intake (40 dollars made your self)
Frount Mount intercooler (900-1000 dollars)

Total : 3205 dollars

this is plenty for 250 whp, and i believe is the best bang for the buck. With the bigger turbo, the AFR's drop right into place where they should have been stock with the gt28rs at 11 psi. and you can keep an eye for the afr's with your wideband to make sure.

colder plugs of course too.

-B

good numbers, but I REALLY wouldnt trust the stock ECU to run all that...

 

[apocman]

Um lets see...
installed:
MPI it's a piggyback system for the EMS ($350+$125 for new turbo module)
Cat and resenator delete exhuast with CEL/MIL Eliminator ($87)
SBC-ID boost control with built in boost guage ($350)
AEM WideBand Air fuel Ratio guage ($250)
Injen Cold Air Intake ($175)
NGK Iridium IX ZFR6FIX-11 sparkplugs ($30 something I think)
Megan Racing short-shifter (B&M knock off) with KartBoy bushing ($65.75)
AWR front-motor mount (i forgot)
Rotora drilled and slotted rotors ($200)
Techna-Fit SS braided brakelines ($90)
a few items from Lowes to make brackets and some hoses etc...

not installed:
Techna Fit SS braided clutch line ($20)
Delsing clunk fix ($183.50)
huge grounding kit (I forgot)
Exhuast Gas Tempature guage (nothing, was a trade)
Turbo Timer ($31.04 I think)

there may be a few other things i forgot, but so far in to my car since I bought most of my stuff used is $1981.29 or so

 

[azian6er]

good numbers, but I REALLY wouldnt trust the stock ECU to run all that...

its running my thumper kit great

people bash the stock ecu... all it needs is a bigger turbo and a fuel pump

-B

 

[yesiownaskyline]

its running my thumper kit great

people bash the stock ecu... all it needs is a bigger turbo and a fuel pump

-B

i believe you, it just seems risky. But then again if you do a religious job of checking your wideband constantly i'm sure you would be able to sense trouble early enough... i'm just a pretty cautious person, but to each his own.... (friday)

 

[JDM Sam]

Um lets see...
installed:
MPI it's piggyback system
redneck homemade crushbent exhaust to remove the cats and resenator
SBC-ID boost control with built in boost guage
AEM WideBand Air fuel Ratio guage
Injen Cold Air Intake
Iriduim colder plugs
short shifter with kart boy bushing
AWr front motor mount
a few items from Lowes to make brackets and some hoses etc...

not installed:
braided brake lines and clutch line
drill and slotted rotors
Delsing clunk fix
huge grounding kit
Exhuast Gas Tempature guage
Turbo Timer

there may be a few other things i forgot, but so far in to my car since I bought most of my stuff used is $2062 or so

You run stock heat range iridium plugs.

 

[xxxFRIARxxx]

How about my first 500?

What will give me the most bang for my buck for my first 500?

Thanks for all the help.

 

[505zoom]

Intake, boost gauge, MBC... but DO NOT crank it up too high. Stay at about 8-9psi and you'll be fine. You'll probably have a little bit of change left in your pocket too.

 

[poboxjosh]

BEST "BANG FOR THE BUCK" PERFORMANCE
Autometer Ultra-Lite Boost Gauge (20 psi boost/30 in. Hg vacuum): $42.99 from Jegs
Autometer dual gauge pod (full A-pillar): $56.99 from Jegs
Set of 4 NGK BKR7E spark plugs: $8.00
JoeP MBC @ 9 psi: $45.00
Total Cost: Well under $200 with tax+shipping
Gains: 0-60 should be around 6.5 seconds (0.5 second improvement). High 14's are attainable in the 1/4 mile.

 

[apocman]

You run stock heat range iridium plugs.

dam, i knew i would forget something!!! (chair) Oh well, atleast somebody else does!!!(boom01) Edit made to orginal post i posted what the box said...

 

[CustomMSP]

Do not install a BC with the stock exhaust, it's pointless because of lots of extra heat produced by the backpressure in the exhaust and potentially harmful to your engine.

 

[dale55]

Well u can get a boost controller cheap but u wont want to boost much higher than 8psi without getting engine management. Honestly if it were me I would do it right the first time and if you dont know that much about turbo cars. You might want to go with UNICHIP. for about 800. www.corksport.com this will up your boost to 10psi. then for about 200 bucks u can get an intake, then an exhaust. That is what I would do. Its actually what i did do and it works great for me.

I am new to the forum and I just saw your post. Your car is set up the way I am thinking of setting mine up. I am concerned about safety and reliability with the car. With your car set up with the unichip, do you feel it is reliable?

Thanks!
dale

 

[[syko.xero]]

FMIC, Intake, Full 3" turboback exhaust, 10 psi hks external wastegate, and a really good dyno tune with engine management and you should be set at 215+ fwhp with reliability on stock turbo + internals