I dont understand why this thread is still going, probably due to the fact that everyone is defending their territory. 1. You converted your perfectly fine protege 5 into an entirely different car for what purpose, 2. why are you defending a car which you dont even drive, 3. everyone is right, you have no idea what you're talking about, and 4. it doesn't matter if we argue with you or not because you're just a little autistic kid who pounds his monkey fingers on the keyboard to get a point across which doesn't even matter on a mazda forum. So I suggest you take your GLI, or Gay Little Impaired vehicle, and walk your ass of this internet page to the nearest VW dealership. Thank you.:bs: