I had a 12 year old infinite QX-4 (nissan pathfinder) that I put yokohama winters on one winter and never took them off. they lasted three winters and three summers, with rotation, until I sold the money pit. Anyways, they still had a summer left on them when I got rid of it. i have a 09 CX-7 that came with summers on the factory mags and winters on steel rims. when the winters wear out anyways, i will get yokohama's. and probably the same for the summers eventually. Try looking at the Tire Rack before purchasing to compare pricing with your local guy. Also as a side note, I know that yokohama supplies tire to rally cars for testing anyways. same principal as goodyear and firestone supplying tires for indy and grand prix cars. they might cost a little more for winter tires in some cases, but they are worth it. yokohama Geolanders for the winter tires I had on my truck.