My take on the CX-5 after 20,000 miles

At 27,500 and almost 3 years I also don't have much to report. Nothing major. Only these minor things:

- One squeaky door lock actuator replaced
- Control arm bushing replacement via TSB for suspension creak (I think this is finally fixed...yay!)
- Cowl tightening seems to have helped some minor rattles - they tried this before the control arm
- Gas cap recently failed pressure inspection (but no dash lights), so that was replaced

... and that's it

Thanks for the heads up on the TSB. I've felt something similar; I bet that's my issue.
 
At 27,500 and almost 3 years I also don't have much to report. Nothing major. Only these minor things:

- One squeaky door lock actuator replaced
- Control arm bushing replacement via TSB for suspension creak (I think this is finally fixed...yay!)
- Cowl tightening seems to have helped some minor rattles - they tried this before the control arm
- Gas cap recently failed pressure inspection (but no dash lights), so that was replaced

... and that's it
If a 3-year-old, 27,500-mile CX-5 has already experienced these problems, I'd be disappointed about the quality and reliability on our CX-5!

Our 98' Honda CR-V had ZERO problems in the first 8 years / 80K miles other than replacing the front disk pads!
 
If a 3-year-old, 27,500-mile CX-5 has already experienced these problems, I'd be disappointed about the quality and reliability on our CX-5!

Our 98' Honda CR-V had ZERO problems in the first 8 years / 80K miles other than replacing the front disk pads!

My '99 Civic has 131K on it and still runs fine with regular maintenance. But to put things into perspective, 2015 CR-V suffers the famous vibration, the 2016 Civic got catastrophic engine failure.
 
If a 3-year-old, 27,500-mile CX-5 has already experienced these problems, I'd be disappointed about the quality and reliability on our CX-5!

Our 98' Honda CR-V had ZERO problems in the first 8 years / 80K miles other than replacing the front disk pads!

I can see where you are coming from. Gotta disagree though. A couple subjective sqeaks and a bushing is nothing. The owner could just simply be a perfectionist and have the downtime available to try and make every little thing right at the dealer.
 
This is one of the reasons why I've always been getting brand new cars. Carfax, Autocheck, even the CPO, can't guarantee you anything. And I also believe there is a reason why the previous owner trading in two-year-old car with low miles getting the worst hit on depreciation but not to keep it for several more years.

There is no free lunch. You pay less for a used car, you're taking more risks having problems. Your resale value for a used car is also less. With complexity of modern cars, some problems are really hard and expensive to fix!

I totally agree on the trade in part. Very few Americans can trade cars every two years just because they can. I think older used cars with solid maintenance work are the best value. I coulda kept my 6 on the road past 200k miles no problem. I sold it for $2600. If that lady puts $2k of maintenance into it, it'll be a car she can drive 80,000 miles for 4600 bucks. Wow!
 
My '99 Civic has 131K on it and still runs fine with regular maintenance. But to put things into perspective, 2015 CR-V suffers the famous vibration, the 2016 Civic got catastrophic engine failure.
I don't like current Honda is heading to, either in design or quality; that's why we didn't get another Honda, but a Mazda CX-5. :)
 
I don't like current Honda is heading to, either in design or quality; that's why we didn't get another Honda, but a Mazda CX-5. :)

I believe in Honda products. For me all this issue is blown out of proportion. look at some of the forums and you will see the bigger picture. I would have get the CRV if not that CVT.

CX5 is not that perfect either. The noise alone gets me crazy. In the end this are all made by machines and I guarantee there's always issue with that.
 
I can see where you are coming from. Gotta disagree though. A couple subjective sqeaks and a bushing is nothing. The owner could just simply be a perfectionist and have the downtime available to try and make every little thing right at the dealer.
Well, power lock problem, suspension bushing problem, gas cap problem, rattling problem, for a 3-year-old low mileage car? What's next? Sorry, it doesn't look good on my scale.

After we bought the CR-V, I hadn't seen any complaints like these for the first several years on CR-V forums I have involved. Not to mention transmission failure, none! Also remember there are at least twenty times more CR-V owners since 1997 in the US, the percentage of complaints on mechanical or electrical problems for CR-V is still very minimum, much lower than CX-5.
 
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Also remember there are at least twenty times more CR-V owners since 1997 in the US, the percentage of complaints on mechanical or electrical problems for CR-V is still very minimum, much lower than CX-5.

Unless you hit me with some actual data on that one I can't buy the argument. But no worries. Regardless I prefer the cx5.
Doesn't sound like you are happy with yours though. Sorry man. It's about as nice a vechicle as Mazda builds.
 
I don't like current Honda is heading to, either in design or quality; that's why we didn't get another Honda, but a Mazda CX-5. :)
I believe in Honda products. For me all this issue is blown out of proportion. look at some of the forums and you will see the bigger picture. I would have get the CRV if not that CVT.
CX5 is not that perfect either. The noise alone gets me crazy. In the end this are all made by machines and I guarantee there's always issue with that.
I feel Honda is not the Honda used to be. They don't have any new engineering innovations like Mazda's SkyActiv Technologies. Honda even becomes very conservative on engineering designs and slow to react to better technologies already available. Honda Earth Dreams 2.4L came out several years later than most car manufactures with direct injection. Refusing to upgrade their old 4-speed AT to more gears is another example. Now the decision of using the CVT on their most popular models for better fuel economy, that kills me to get another Honda! Having HID or LED lighting system and AFS, rain-sensing wipers on Mazda CX-5, in addition to SkyActiv Technology, are my reasons to get a CX-5.

I agree that some of the Honda problems, such as CVT vibration issue on CR-V, is blown out of proportion. Most people don't care the issue and Honda sold 345,647 CR-Vs in 2015, three times more than CX-5 which sold 111,450 units. I could compromise a little vibration stopping at the traffic light, just like the noise level on CX-5, if the car offers other features I like. But again, Honda should not let this vibration issue happen when they designed its CVT as the CVT isn't a new innovation. This means Honda is not the old Honda anymore.

The noise insulation is pathetic on CX-5 even though Mazda had claimed they had improved on this for 2016 MY. By comparison, CX-5 has just 9 pound of sound-deadening material in the floor to the new CX-9's 53 pounds. The new CX-9 also has acoustic glass in the windshield and front side windows.
 
It's funny you bought this because of a growing family. I got one(2015) for the same reason. Power was good but the Trans programming made driving it annoying at times with it lugging in gear at 20-30 or 30-40 depending how the Trans wanted to act, that with the "big" 2.5l. We ultimately traded it in a few months ago with 30k miles on a 15 durango and couldn't be happier.

The cx5 was just to small for an infant and two tall adults. Our knees pretty much had to be in the dash to have a infant carrier fit properly in the back seat.

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I came from a BMW 328i and really enjoy driving the CX-5. It doesn't have the smooth, "quiet" power delivery of a BMW I-6 (what does?), but it's plenty powerful for around town driving.

My wife has been driving her father's leased 2013 RX350 to use up the miles he has left before he turns it in. I've had a lot of opportunities to drive it. I like it, but it's certainly not as sporty as the CX-5. It's a little larger and feels a lot heavier and ponderous in it's handling, which isn't bad, but is not sports car-like. It's plusher, but I don't care for the looks of the interior. The dashboard controls, particularly the climate controls, are confusing. I'd probably get used to them, but I don't like the fact that you can't see what the temperature is set to without pushing a button. The display autohides after a few seconds. The ride is firm and it's considerably quieter than the CX-5. Of course, the fuel economy is not quite as good, but it's not terrible. The cars sit next to each other in our driveway and to my taste, the CX-5 is a better looking car. The newer RX's are even more polarizing.

We are considering buying the Lexus off lease, and can probably get it for about $2,000 less than I just paid for the 2016 CX-5. I'm struggling with the decision. My wife likes the Lexus (She's not a big car person. She has driven two different Honda Odysseys since 2002 and loves them.), so we may end up with it and give her parents the van, which is more suitable for them in their advancing age.

Good luck with the decision. You probably can't make a bad decision, although I elected to buy the CX-5 over an Audi Q5, BMW X-1 and Lexus RX350 (all of which would have been considerably more expensive optioned out similarly).

Thanks for the response Av8torjim! :) Should be making a choice soon!
 
It's funny you bought this because of a growing family. I got one(2015) for the same reason. Power was good but the Trans programming made driving it annoying at times with it lugging in gear at 20-30 or 30-40 depending how the Trans wanted to act, that with the "big" 2.5l. We ultimately traded it in a few months ago with 30k miles on a 15 durango and couldn't be happier.

The cx5 was just to small for an infant and two tall adults. Our knees pretty much had to be in the dash to have a infant carrier fit properly in the back seat.

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Ya I agree. Could it be that hard to program a sport mode? The 2.5 has the power. Why not let it ride the gear a little longer.....

Btw I love the Durango. I had an old '99 that was an absolute beast off road. Good luck with it!
 
Well, power lock problem, suspension bushing problem, gas cap problem, rattling problem, for a 3-year-old low mileage car? What's next? Sorry, it doesn't look good on my scale.

After we bought the CR-V, I hadn't seen any complaints like these for the first several years on CR-V forums I have involved. Not to mention transmission failure, none! Also remember there are at least twenty times more CR-V owners since 1997 in the US, the percentage of complaints on mechanical or electrical problems for CR-V is still very minimum, much lower than CX-5.


These are all very minor issues. I am indeed picking nits, because there's nothing else to complain about. Many people will never notice things like suspension creak or a tiny rattle and I had to take the tech on a test drive to a particular incline to exhibit it. The gas cap failed inspection so that might be the most 'serious' one that had to be fixed.... but it's a gas cap. Out of the millions made every year, some will have an early issue. Whoever makes that cap also supplies Honda, Toyota etc...

So while I had it in for the gas cap I had them check out that suspension before the warranty was up, and now it actually handles even better...
 
Ya I agree. Could it be that hard to program a sport mode? The 2.5 has the power. Why not let it ride the gear a little longer.....

Btw I love the Durango. I had an old '99 that was an absolute beast off road. Good luck with it!
We did have a base 2.5l as a loaner while ours was in the shop that had sport mode and it was a blast to drive. It made it a world of difference.

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Mine has been very solid & reliable ...a little over 20K miles. I did get the bluetooth module replaced via the known TSB. My only complaint was the occasional squeaky power door locks but they seemed to have healed after this last winter. I haven't noticed any suspension noises.
 
The only real issue I had was AC related and it took several visits to the shop and two replacement s of the HVAC controls. Other than that only "issue" was more of a gripe about the Trans shift points.

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The only real issue I had was AC related and it took several visits to the shop and two replacement s of the HVAC controls. Other than that only "issue" was more of a gripe about the Trans shift points.

30K miles here with no issues other than water ingress in the back-up camera. That required replacement with an updated camera. Other than that problem which cropped up when new, the thing has been bullet-proof.

BTW, the shift points are not "hard" points, they vary quite a bit depending upon how you send requests for more throttle with your right foot. If you ease slowly off the throttle, it will likely shift into the next highest gear. But if you use a faster motion when you ease off the throttle, it's much more likely to stay in the same gear (assuming you're not at too high of revs already). The shift logic takes into account both the throttle pedal position as well as the speed at which it was moved. This is why I call the transmission "telepathic", because you can control gear selection by learning how and when to make throttle requests that vary not only by the pedal position but also by the speed at which the request to change the throttle setting was made. It's a very well implemented system which doesn't garner the amount of recognition it deserves.

These same dynamics are available to the driver whether the driver's request is for more power or less power.
 
2015 GT bought new 14 months ago. Currently with 30,000 miles. Smartest engineered vehicle I’ve ever owned.

Well, I take that back. The 1965 and earlier VW Air Cooled Beetle was the smartest engineered vehicle ever made.
 
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It is Toyota and Subaru, not Honda, which kept using a 4AT for many years. A base Corolla can still be had with this same transmission ...
Honda used 5AT on many of their vehicles. My previous Accord had this 5AT transmission and it was a pleasure to drive it, telepathic and quick shifting. That car was the most reliable vehicle I ever owned.

It is true that Honda lost their way for several years. However, sounds like they are making a comeback, at least when judging by their new Civic. It's new 1.5T is powerful for the segment AND gets the best MPG for the segment ... and there will be an SI and R as well ... and a hatch. From the inside, it is a significant step up from the previous gen. Good competition to the Mazda 3.
It is true that they use CVT, but their unit is better than most CVTs.

Looking at the CRV, yes, it is not pretty, not a good competition to the CX-5 at current gen, but a good reliable buy for small families which can make use of the utility.
 

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