My Surgeline Tuned ms3!

[SubieKiller3]

No Mid life the comment wasnt cause of you, your one of the more logical and common sence thinking members on these forums from what I have alwas seen of your comments-...and yes you right about direct injection..mercedes was using in 1955 I atleast know that,guess my point at that time was maybe the whole disi motor isnt mastered completly. anyways thats besides the point..Hearing a comment that not wasting money on a tune till you build a motor is rather retarded..yes if we all had money trees growing outside out our front yard and could just drop money like it was nothing,then hey why not build a motor. But living here in the northwest I have access to tuning shops like Surgeline,Ralitek,Perrin,Horsepower freaks and more...you have other places in the country like AMS or Buschur and many more who day after day are tuning Sti's,Evo's,ms3's,srt4's,GTR's,Supra's,wrx's,GTI's, and many many more WHO are running awesome power without upgrading the internals..some of these tuners-mechanics have over 20 years of experience and they know what thier doing..they read the blue prints of the engines..they check the specs on the blocks..they read engineer statements on the psi threshold on the these engines and the breaking strenght of the rods and pistons..the compression ratio..all these things and soooo much more..and while im not expert I have friends who are,are have worked around lots of tuners who know as well..and theres so many options of running a safe tuned car with stock internals..you just dont be a ****** idiot about it....running 600 whp on stock internals sti isnt a good thing...shoving 21 lbs of boost on a reg basis on a ms3 isnt good..the brand new sti pistons are cast steel..so tuners will tell you right away..if you plan on going past stage 2=tbe+intake+tune..then you need to go forge cause they can crack....I cant count how many people are running "more than stock" hp on thier stock internal cars..My friend in Chehalis,Wa has 34,000 miles on this 450 hp daily driven 2008 r32...hes made several trips to cali in that car..and it run likes a champ and I could go on and and on and on..so anyways my point is yo dont alwas need forge internals..most of the time you dont...these motors these days are built very strong using modern technology..once you understand the limits of these platforms then you can decide if you need to upgrade..but to just say that you are wasting your money on a tune unless you do go forge sounds like a d-bag statement.

your the only dbag here for spending all that money and not even hitting 300hp. and no one cares. end of thread.

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

Hey, there is no need for name calling... If people want to tune, tune. If you want to build your motor first (bolt on mods are considered building/adding to the engine) then so be it... My goodness people...

 

[LOL WUT]

Im showing up a little late to the party but just wanted to say congrats on the new tune! Those are some very nice numbers!!!

 

[zx2man]

well 296 whp is pretty dam close to 300..and thats mustang dyno nevertheless and you knwo what toughguy how about you come down to brazilian jiu-jitsu of olympia and ask for David..im there mon-wed-friday from 7pm and 9pm..and well see who the dbag...like I isaid OLYMPIA,Washington...please pretty please..id love it!

 

[zx2man]

man i hate skumbags..i just wanna destroy them....BTW....Thank you LOL WUT...hope your doing well

 

[maestro]

Keep in mind Surgeline uses a Mustang Dyno. Not sure what you dyno'd on but my bet is that it was not a Mustang and probably a Dyno-Jet. Mustang Dyno reads 20-30% lower than a Dyno-Jet.

The measure of a car should allways be the owners' satisfaction. Dynos/numbers, as many people know, are simply a tuning tool. Many other factors affect dyno numbers and make it illogical to compare said numbers randomly.
My car has been on a Mustang Dyno as well as Dyno-Jet. Using the same tune and mods my lowest numbers are on a Dyno-Jet, by about 5%, however the temp and humidity were quite different.

Just stating my opinion, not directed at you Bravnik.

 

[maestro]

well 296 whp is pretty dam close to 300..and thats mustang dyno nevertheless and you knwo what toughguy how about you come down to brazilian jiu-jitsu of olympia and ask for David..im there mon-wed-friday from 7pm and 9pm..and well see who the dbag...like I isaid OLYMPIA,Washington...please pretty please..id love it!

My two cents.
ENJOY YOUR CAR and don't worry about negative comments.
Posts like the one I quoted above make you appear to be on the same douchebag level, don't let people get you so mad. Beating someone up because they post negative comments?

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

well 296 whp is pretty dam close to 300..and thats mustang dyno nevertheless and you knwo what toughguy how about you come down to brazilian jiu-jitsu of olympia and ask for David..im there mon-wed-friday from 7pm and 9pm..and well see who the dbag...like I isaid OLYMPIA,Washington...please pretty please..id love it!

No need to threaten people with physical violence over words on the internet... Goodness, nothing is that serious.

 

[chief_wiggum]

The measure of a car should allways be the owners' satisfaction.

+ a trillion.

 

[onelsono]

y doesnt everyone just do their own thing, nd stop worrying about everyone elses s*** so much.. the guy got a good tune and hes happy with it, if hes happy with his car thas all that matters. and lets face it if sum1 tld u that his car, mazda or not, got a pro. tune at 15psi and its not ever hitting knock and running reall smooth,, wut would cause u to think hes indanger of blowing.. everything is the fukin same,, beat the s*** out of it and dont treat it well or push it beyond its limits, ur askin to pop, if u dnt then ull be fine.. its all the same no matter wut car, bike, truk,, etc.. unless u have an stock sti then feel free to beat the **** out of it everyday wit no probs lol

 

[zx2man]

well said maestro..and your are right..I honestly just hate arguing on the internet, I guess from multiple deployments in iraq, 3 years as correctional officer where I deal with bad attitudes all day me being a typical alpha male-hit the gym,martial arts,sports..that type of stuff..I get angry fast and dont like to put up with anyones crap..but anyways my apologies..I like ALOT of people on these forums!!..I really do..so many people on here no way more than I do..All I do is try to share my experiences through trial and error...I honestly think I didnt waste m money on a tune..cause I got a car that pulls very hard it quite fast and very reliable and im getting all that from only 15 psi..People are intitled to thier opinions I just wish people wouldnt be so negative...then when I feel attacked..it brings out the worse of me cause I have a super low tolerance..anyways..enough is enough..ill be cool and thank you everyone so very much for all your imput(drinks)

 

[maestro]

well said maestro..and your are right..I honestly just hate arguing on the internet, I guess from multiple deployments in iraq, 3 years as correctional officer where I deal with bad attitudes all day me being a typical alpha male-hit the gym,martial arts,sports..that type of stuff..I get angry fast and dont like to put up with anyones crap..but anyways my apologies..I like ALOT of people on these forums!!..I really do..so many people on here no way more than I do..All I do is try to share my experiences through trial and error...I honestly think I didnt waste m money on a tune..cause I got a car that pulls very hard it quite fast and very reliable and im getting all that from only 15 psi..People are intitled to thier opinions I just wish people wouldnt be so negative...then when I feel attacked..it brings out the worse of me cause I have a super low tolerance..anyways..enough is enough..ill be cool and thank you everyone so very much for all your imput(drinks)

Good for you and thanks for your service in the military.

On topic I had similar issues before getting the AP tuned. I had a lean spot around 5k, just above, and discovered my fuel pump needs upgrading before I safely (IMO) use a 19 PSI map. I get better mileage on the 17 PSI map I currently run than I did untuned and the car has a great A/F ratio across the board. A custom tune is worth the peace of mind and benefits longevity IMO.

Lastly, work on your spelling!

 

[zx2man]

yeah im carious on my current mpg since the tune..but been putting my foot into it more cause its fun...therefore totaly ruining the good gas mpg factor..spelling? haha yeah its called typing too fast.

 

[Design]

your the only dbag here for spending all that money and not even hitting 300hp. and no one cares. end of thread.

I really don't get this comment, aside from the fact it was written from the point of view of a 12 year old, lol.

From a tuning perspective, peak HP is irrelevant. OP has a very linear power curve all the way to 6K, trailing off slightly through 6.3K. That's a very respectable tune IMO.

zx2man, I hate to ruin your parade, but I have the same mods as you and no tune with stock boost and I dynoed two weeks ago 294whp/304wtq in 92F.
My mods: TurboXS downpipe, TurboXS FMIC, Corksport Inlet & intake, Turbosmart bov.

I don't disagree, but it would be interesting to see your dyno graph and compare the power curves. AVERAGE power can be much more important than peak power. The stock tune limits drivability within the 3-5.5K range. A good aftermarket tune will expand that area by as much as 1.2K. That might not mean much if all you do is accelerate at WOT down a straight line. But track cars and DD's can greatly benefit from a broad/linear power curve.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[Antonio DiMarco]

Nice

Just got back from Portland,Oregon....WOW glad to be done driving actrully hehe. First off.. hats off to Surgeline...great job...Tim Baily is extremly talented..very professional too!...It took about 3 hours of tuning time to get it right..was running alittle lean and my knock was present during high rpms. My best pull was 296 whp and 322 wtq..But Tim said lets lighten it up alittle and make it alittle more safer, so with a super conservative 17 psi tune, numers are: 291 whp and 310 wtq...still quite good on this small turbo...whats amazing is how effecient this small turbo is..cause Tim also made me a 15 psi map just incase I wanted to run even lower..and that map is still pulling 284 whp and 306 wtq...But im running the 17 pis map now and it feels good..flirting with 300 whp and having only a few bolt ons to me is pretty good stuff..and ofcourse this tune is very safe and reliable..safe on the engine..the car feels just sooo much smoother and linear!!...Im very happy..I took some pics when I could so here ya go. I should be getting a video soon. Anyways the car is running really good and Iam very happy

Kudos for modding the RIGHT way. Enjoy it and don't listen to any of these idiots. They'll be the same people who will cry when their car goes boom because they don't know what they're doing.