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It is fun to late brake the porsches that are in my run group with the DTC 60s, I can go super deep and never get any brake fade.
-Derrick
My New STF project...
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It is fun to late brake the porsches that are in my run group with the DTC 60s, I can go super deep and never get any brake fade.
-Derrick
BigBlueDart
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Are you running braided brake lines?
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zoomerang2
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Andres, any update on the ECU programming? Have you had a chance to get your car on the Dyno?
I am very interested in getting mine reflashed... if you can provide any contact info. for who you have been working with I would like to get in touch with them.
Thanks in advance!
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I am running a re-flash as well but a different one from Andres (the approved B-Spec flash), it is worth it in every way. They extra RPM alone is worth it and the extra power is nice too.
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Andy Hollis
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I have extensive experience with all of the Hawk line, especially the DTC-60, HP+ and HPS, in track, autocross, and street settings.
The problem with DTC-60's on the street is that they will eat your rotors. They are designed to operate in a temp range that is much higher than what you will achieve on the street and even on an autocross course. They do work cold (unlike some race pads), but they are not operating as designed and are basically chewing up the rotor instead of bonding to a pad transfer layer. They will also be inconsistent in an autocross setting, as the braking friction will vary widely as the pad heats up.
If you want more bite on the street and for autocross, and you like the Hawk line, use the HP+. HPS is also good, but less bite.
For my autocross 2, I found no need to go beyond the stock pads.
I drive my track car (CRX) to the track. I used to simply leave the DTC-60's on for the 45 minute highway trip, but found that the slight drag that floating calipers deliver during cruising will eat the rotors up. So now I swap at the track between HPS and DTC-60.
Edit: There was a nice test about a year ago in GRM done by the Tire Rack guys at their test facility (they are a Hawk dealer). They tested OE, HPS, HP+ and DTC-60 on an MX5. Their results agree with what I found. No better braking with DTC-60 over HP+ and inconsistent. HPS in between OE and HP+.
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You are right, i was planning on doing some track events and decided to make one purchase to fit both needs but in deed I might go back to something different and switch to them when I have the option of tracking the car.
Oh really?
LOL !! why it took you so long to to post something ?
In deed even thought the fastest car in the class from last year (yours) is out, more good driver saw what you did and got attracted to the class, while the ones already in the class have improved their cars and are getting use to them; so you have Eric Sienkiewicz (Tour winner in STX in the past) who beat everybody at Dixie on a stock M3, Michael Feeney very quick driver in his Mini, David Heddrick got headers and still under prep (fast driver forever) is getting to know his car better, Joe Austin and Todd have also improve their cars and I had the great idea to bring Mike Lawson( one of the unknown fastest drivers in Fl.) to the picture to kick my a.. in my own car. Everybody driving on Rivals; so yes I think the competition has grow from last year. I still think no doubt the car to win is the M2 you proved it but the Mini's are getting closer.Andres
I just won STF at the Devens Match Tour with stock suspension, a rear bar and rivals, haha. I'll see you guys in 2014 when the car is prepared
I just won STF at the Devens Match Tour with stock suspension, a rear bar and rivals, haha. I'll see you guys in 2014 when the car is prepared
Let me know if you plan on any NNJR scca events
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I was wondering about the winner after I saw the results.. Good Job !!!! Pictures ????I just won STF at the Devens Match Tour with stock suspension, a rear bar and rivals, haha. I'll see you guys in 2014 when the car is prepared
Come to Nationals..
Andres
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I just won STF at the Devens Match Tour with stock suspension, a rear bar and rivals, haha. I'll see you guys in 2014 when the car is prepared
Gratz!
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You have to love contingencies: Decided to go with 205-50-15 instead of 225-45-15 following the advice of our Motorsports Guru Andy Hollis.
New 205-50-15(unmounted) Rivals next to the 225-45-15 (mounted on 15x7.5):
205-50-15 vs 225-45-15 Rivals both mounted on 15x7.5 wheels:
Andres
New 205-50-15(unmounted) Rivals next to the 225-45-15 (mounted on 15x7.5):
205-50-15 vs 225-45-15 Rivals both mounted on 15x7.5 wheels:
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Toyo has the best contingency $300 bucks for first place
That's why I am trying 205's now.
Only Aliens like Andy can fly on 195's, just can't imagine what he could have done on Rivals.
Nothing against the Toyo's, in the past I compared them against the RS3's on dry on concrete, RS3's were faster with my driving style; because of the contingency I ran them at Dixie in 2012 (2nd place to a Mini on Rs3's). Now they are my rain tires and love them; some of the fastest STS cars at Blytheville were on Toyo's. My problem being an overdriver is that the 195 R1R's are not enough for me, I have cooked them in the past. My goal is to improve the driving and adjust to the new 205's; a few people have commented that the difference between those and the 225's is very slim.
Andres
Well the toyo works best on a light car with a good amount of camber. So if you were using it on a heavier car with not a lot of camber that might of been part of the problem. My co driver and I were using the 235 r1r in str this season we both liked it
He just switched over to BFG but we didn't get what all the hype was for. He might be switching back once this set is done. My original idea was to run the re11A as a daily/auto x tire but now I want to go balls out and I know the 195 is the tire to have plus if I do win its more money in my pocket. STS and STC are all running toyo must be a reason for it hahahttp://sololive.scca.com/STS.html
http://sololive.scca.com/STC.html
Let me know if you plan on any NNJR scca events
Soon! I'm going to try to make at least one this year.
Thanks! No pictures yet but I'm sure some will pop up soon. NER is slow on getting pictures up
.I really, REALLY want to go to Nats this year but I can't get enough time off of work to make it. I am DEFINATELY going to be there next year.
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Look what came today...
... time to get serious, courtesy of Mr Andy Hollis :
to early for driving report, but my 50 miles drive home after installation reminded me I have Kirkey seat . Cannot imagine how the trip to Nationals is going to feel with the higher rate springs coming soon . (prize of fame )
Thanks so much Andy !!!
Andres
... time to get serious, courtesy of Mr Andy Hollis :
to early for driving report, but my 50 miles drive home after installation reminded me I have Kirkey seat
. Cannot imagine how the trip to Nationals is going to feel with the higher rate springs coming soon . (prize of fame )Thanks so much Andy !!!
Andres
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... time to get serious, courtesy of Mr Andy Hollis :
to early for driving report, but my 50 miles drive home after installation reminded me I have Kirkey seat
Thanks so much Andy !!!
Andres
Glad they made it safe and sound. Like the box they came in? That's the stealth approach.
Forgot to mention...you'll want to drill a hole in the plastic trim straight up from the shock top so you can run the extender down through it. I then tucked the extender in between the seatback and the side of the car to keep it from flopping around. It will become obvious when you put them on.
BTW, if anybody else wants AST shocks, I have been informed that there is now a production application for the Mazda 2, including the front struts. Cost is $2000 a set ($500 a corner), and includes the trick double-digressive pistons from their Grand Am program. They are model 4100 single adjust...coilover struts in front, single shocks in rear. I'll start a thread in the suspension section to let people know besides autocrossers.
