My dyno #'s :)

[NoahFex]

Hell even turbomatty did 217 at 9 psi and who knows the condition of his motor when he did .. He may even have the stock DP and exhaust- he would have to chime in here .. 220+ on pump gas is realistic. I may have made more hp at a lower boost, I may have made more at a hgher psi- this is still all a big experiment- no one knows for sure .. There are so many misconceptions out there that I am just doing it all on my own and seeing what it will do and how it does it .
Joe

FWIW and sorry to bring up an old thread but I did 212hp/233tq on 9psi on the stock FS motor.

 

[kwiktsi]

FWIW and sorry to bring up an old thread but I did 212hp/233tq on 9psi on the stock FS motor.

Nice car!! Hopefully there are less doubters now than there were when this first was posted though, impressive #'s none the less ..
Joe

 

[kwiktsi]

FWIW and sorry to bring up an old thread but I did 212hp/233tq on 9psi on the stock FS motor.

Just a question after reading your info- do you plan on building the motor with lower compression and running more boost? That turbo is a bit on the big side for a stock motor and low boost. What RPM's are you turning? You have a LOT more there with a stronger motor, less compression and higher RPM's I would say .
Joe

 

[NoahFex]

Just a question after reading your info- do you plan on building the motor with lower compression and running more boost? That turbo is a bit on the big side for a stock motor and low boost. What RPM's are you turning? You have a LOT more there with a stronger motor, less compression and higher RPM's I would say .
Joe

We are looking into our options right now. The motor is still being pulled apart and funds are still being raised. No doubt i'll keep the board updated. I am actually looking into buying a blown up or totalled MSP right now to fix up, so if I can find one, the probe will be rebuild stock, and sold for funds.

 

[acelesson]

Ill be hearing you post in a week that your MSP engine has blown up, and youll be asking us why did it happen.

The MSP engine cant handle that much boost man, your lucky it didnt s*** out on you on the Dynometer.

Eiether that, or your story is complete B.S.

 

[GAspeedProtege]

Have you been paying attention to what Kwiktsi has been doing or are you just trolling over his posts?

 

[NoahFex]

Have you been paying attention to what Kwiktsi has been doing or are you just trolling over his posts?

Are you speaking to me?

 

[GAspeedProtege]

No, accelson.

 

[Dr.Sound]

Ill be hearing you post in a week that your MSP engine has blown up, and youll be asking us why did it happen.

The MSP engine cant handle that much boost man, your lucky it didnt s*** out on you on the Dynometer.

Eiether that, or your story is complete B.S.

who the hell are u?

 

[ThrillRide]

Ill be hearing you post in a week that your MSP engine has blown up, and youll be asking us why did it happen.The MSP engine cant handle that much boost man, your lucky it didnt s*** out on you on the Dynometer.[Eiether that, or your story is complete B.S./QUOTE]

what dillweed makes a post like that?! only a few posts and probably doesn't even know what and FS is.

 

[doggman]

hey i dont know what an "FS" is and i dont consider myself someone who would post a comment like that, man gotta have faith.

 

[low_psi]

haha, trolls coming into our hood.

fyi- the engine code for the 2.0L proteges, also used in the probes and non v6 mx6(i think) is FS-DE.

 

[kwiktsi]

Man, everytime this thread gets brought back up, it makes for some interesting entertainment .

Noah- I think you have yet to even tap the potential of your setup!! With the proper tuning and supporting mods, it should be a fun little monster .
Joe

 

[Emode]

Ill be hearing you post in a week that your MSP engine has blown up, and youll be asking us why did it happen.

The MSP engine cant handle that much boost man, your lucky it didnt s*** out on you on the Dynometer.

Eiether that, or your story is complete B.S.

id say thats pretty much impossible seeing as joe's car has been sold for around half a year.

but who knows(bird)

 

[NoahFex]

haha, trolls coming into our hood.

fyi- the engine code for the 2.0L proteges, also used in the probes and non v6 mx6(i think) is FS-DE.

Yes the FS series motor was found in the:
MX-6
Probe
Protege
626

The FS-ZE variant was the Japanese-only version with an extra ~50hp and was found only in the 97 MX-6 IIRC (maybe some Japanese 626's had it too)

 

[NoahFex]

Man, everytime this thread gets brought back up, it makes for some interesting entertainment .

Noah- I think you have yet to even tap the potential of your setup!! With the proper tuning and supporting mods, it should be a fun little monster .
Joe

kwiktsi, since I am lacking a proper garage, I am going to be taking my project to a local shop who will do a full bottom-end rebuild for $500. I then need $899 for a performance rebuild kit (forged pistons, HP bearings, copper head gasket etc etc...) and $720 for forged rods. My fully rebuild head should be arriving next week. I'm aiming for all motor 14's then i'll add the boost again.

 

[kwiktsi]

kwiktsi, since I am lacking a proper garage, I am going to be taking my project to a local shop who will do a full bottom-end rebuild for $500. I then need $899 for a performance rebuild kit (forged pistons, HP bearings, copper head gasket etc etc...) and $720 for forged rods. My fully rebuild head should be arriving next week. I'm aiming for all motor 14's then i'll add the boost again.

That sounds cheap for the rebuild- I'd be leary of it. Balancing alone by a reputable machine shop is around half that- even more in some cases.

Other than that, the only "flaw" I see is the "all motor 14 sec" comment followed by adding the boost. If you tune and aim for one setup, then go boosted- it is two totally different setups. If you want 14's on motor, it would take more compression than the turbo setup, different cam profile, etc .. I would build it for boost and run it with boost. Otherwise even if you run the same motor and such, you'll still be completely tuning the thing twice .
Joe

 

[DiscreetSpeed]

who the hell are u?

yes indeed who is this guy/girl?

 

[NoahFex]

That sounds cheap for the rebuild- I'd be leary of it. Balancing alone by a reputable machine shop is around half that- even more in some cases.

Other than that, the only "flaw" I see is the "all motor 14 sec" comment followed by adding the boost. If you tune and aim for one setup, then go boosted- it is two totally different setups. If you want 14's on motor, it would take more compression than the turbo setup, different cam profile, etc .. I would build it for boost and run it with boost. Otherwise even if you run the same motor and such, you'll still be completely tuning the thing twice .
Joe

I've done this before
The shop I am going to get the rebuild form is next door to my shop which is a performance shop. They do deals with us since we give them deals on parts.

Even though I am boosting, I am still getting 9.5:1 pistons. I want instant power off the line to make the car fairly streetable. Lexan glass all around and a fiberglass front end is going to drop the weight enough to get it into 14's.

 

[kwiktsi]

I've done this before
The shop I am going to get the rebuild form is next door to my shop which is a performance shop. They do deals with us since we give them deals on parts.

Even though I am boosting, I am still getting 9.5:1 pistons. I want instant power off the line to make the car fairly streetable. Lexan glass all around and a fiberglass front end is going to drop the weight enough to get it into 14's.

Tough to tune the higher compression on pump gas, but it will work if tuned properly. Lower compression and more boost will make more hp and be easier to tune, just won't give you the bottom end punch that is nice to have in a street car like the higher compression will.
Joe