the guy at the dealer only told me they're raising my engine back up and fixing the axle cuz it was damaged from the fall
my christmas present, a broken motor mount!!!!
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the guy at the dealer only told me they're raising my engine back up and fixing the axle cuz it was damaged from the fall
they better, i'm fighting for something really really good
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Point is that stuff happens...
That is what the warranty is for. Do you think every mechanical product is perfect? They aren't. The only reason why Toyota and Honda don't have their dirty laundry advertised is because their marketing has more dollars to cover up the issues with commercials that trumpet their reliability and quality. Take a good look at the actual recalls Toyota had last year and the year before and you'll see that they are no different than any other car company. Rest assured the same struts, same electronic components, same motor mounts are used across all lines of cars. Look at consumer reports and you'll see issues with particular cars that used the same part from Nippon-Denso or Delphi.
I feel for your issues but it's the law of averages. When you're dealing with products being manufactured in the hundreds of thousands with parts fabricated in the millions at an affordable price point there will be failures. No way around it.
Now if the majority of people on the world want to go and buy cars that cost $50,000 to build, then maybe those failures will be reduced. But you know what? Consumers don't want to pay that price. We want sales, we want some perceived "value".
There's no such thing as a free lunch. People expect it. But even NASA has failures.
Personally I think you'll see fewer problems, if any, with your MS3 over the next 26,000 miles. When my wife and I purchased our Mz5 it was part of the exhaust recall and had issues with blown struts and defective emission parts all in the first 10,000 miles. It was annoying yes, but my dealer always fixed the issue once (unless the second part failed) and always made the process as painless as possible (rentals, discounted oil changes etc). Now the Mz5 is approaching 50,000 and is as solid as a rock with zero issues overs the last 40,000 miles. I fully expect it to go beyond 100,000 without much drama.
Then again I've been a loyal Mazda owner for close to 20 years and never once had to worry about being stranded with a lemon. ON the other hand I've owned Toyotas and Hondas that broke more often and had pathetic service than you would expect given their advertisements.
I know it's a royal pain in the ass when your transportation breaks but try to keep things in perspective.
That is what the warranty is for. Do you think every mechanical product is perfect? They aren't. The only reason why Toyota and Honda don't have their dirty laundry advertised is because their marketing has more dollars to cover up the issues with commercials that trumpet their reliability and quality. Take a good look at the actual recalls Toyota had last year and the year before and you'll see that they are no different than any other car company. Rest assured the same struts, same electronic components, same motor mounts are used across all lines of cars. Look at consumer reports and you'll see issues with particular cars that used the same part from Nippon-Denso or Delphi.
I feel for your issues but it's the law of averages. When you're dealing with products being manufactured in the hundreds of thousands with parts fabricated in the millions at an affordable price point there will be failures. No way around it.
Now if the majority of people on the world want to go and buy cars that cost $50,000 to build, then maybe those failures will be reduced. But you know what? Consumers don't want to pay that price. We want sales, we want some perceived "value".
There's no such thing as a free lunch. People expect it. But even NASA has failures.
Personally I think you'll see fewer problems, if any, with your MS3 over the next 26,000 miles. When my wife and I purchased our Mz5 it was part of the exhaust recall and had issues with blown struts and defective emission parts all in the first 10,000 miles. It was annoying yes, but my dealer always fixed the issue once (unless the second part failed) and always made the process as painless as possible (rentals, discounted oil changes etc). Now the Mz5 is approaching 50,000 and is as solid as a rock with zero issues overs the last 40,000 miles. I fully expect it to go beyond 100,000 without much drama.
Then again I've been a loyal Mazda owner for close to 20 years and never once had to worry about being stranded with a lemon. ON the other hand I've owned Toyotas and Hondas that broke more often and had pathetic service than you would expect given their advertisements.
I know it's a royal pain in the ass when your transportation breaks but try to keep things in perspective.
yea i had the whole mount replaced already.. and this s*** still happens. why did they void ur warranty?
That is what the warranty is for. Do you think every mechanical product is perfect? They aren't. The only reason why Toyota and Honda don't have their dirty laundry advertised is because their marketing has more dollars to cover up the issues with commercials that trumpet their reliability and quality. Take a good look at the actual recalls Toyota had last year and the year before and you'll see that they are no different than any other car company. Rest assured the same struts, same electronic components, same motor mounts are used across all lines of cars. Look at consumer reports and you'll see issues with particular cars that used the same part from Nippon-Denso or Delphi.
I feel for your issues but it's the law of averages. When you're dealing with products being manufactured in the hundreds of thousands with parts fabricated in the millions at an affordable price point there will be failures. No way around it.
Now if the majority of people on the world want to go and buy cars that cost $50,000 to build, then maybe those failures will be reduced. But you know what? Consumers don't want to pay that price. We want sales, we want some perceived "value".
There's no such thing as a free lunch. People expect it. But even NASA has failures.
Personally I think you'll see fewer problems, if any, with your MS3 over the next 26,000 miles. When my wife and I purchased our Mz5 it was part of the exhaust recall and had issues with blown struts and defective emission parts all in the first 10,000 miles. It was annoying yes, but my dealer always fixed the issue once (unless the second part failed) and always made the process as painless as possible (rentals, discounted oil changes etc). Now the Mz5 is approaching 50,000 and is as solid as a rock with zero issues overs the last 40,000 miles. I fully expect it to go beyond 100,000 without much drama.
Then again I've been a loyal Mazda owner for close to 20 years and never once had to worry about being stranded with a lemon. ON the other hand I've owned Toyotas and Hondas that broke more often and had pathetic service than you would expect given their advertisements.
I know it's a royal pain in the ass when your transportation breaks but try to keep things in perspective.
u have a very good point and i see where ur coming from.. but it just sucks that the mount had to break twice!!! i had to miss work twice cuz of it.. i dont even know if i still feel safe driving my car around lol
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So you had two different mounts break
I reread through your posts and it sounds like two different mounts broke. My guess is that the stress from the first mount breaking compromised the second enough where it failed later. You said that the tranny mount failed, but the engine didn't fall. In this case how long did you drive around before you realized it was broken? How much time passed between each failure?
I think if you approach it right Mazda will take care of you. Just keep your cool and give them facts while keeping the emotion in check. If the dealer doesn't help you to your satisfaction then contact Mazda USA directly. If you didn't mod your car then you have nothing to worry about. Mazda will keep their end of the bargain.
I reread through your posts and it sounds like two different mounts broke. My guess is that the stress from the first mount breaking compromised the second enough where it failed later. You said that the tranny mount failed, but the engine didn't fall. In this case how long did you drive around before you realized it was broken? How much time passed between each failure?
I think if you approach it right Mazda will take care of you. Just keep your cool and give them facts while keeping the emotion in check. If the dealer doesn't help you to your satisfaction then contact Mazda USA directly. If you didn't mod your car then you have nothing to worry about. Mazda will keep their end of the bargain.
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That is what the warranty is for. Do you think every mechanical product is perfect? They aren't. The only reason why Toyota and Honda don't have their dirty laundry advertised is because their marketing has more dollars to cover up the issues with commercials that trumpet their reliability and quality. Take a good look at the actual recalls Toyota had last year and the year before and you'll see that they are no different than any other car company. Rest assured the same struts, same electronic components, same motor mounts are used across all lines of cars. Look at consumer reports and you'll see issues with particular cars that used the same part from Nippon-Denso or Delphi.
I feel for your issues but it's the law of averages. When you're dealing with products being manufactured in the hundreds of thousands with parts fabricated in the millions at an affordable price point there will be failures. No way around it.
Now if the majority of people on the world want to go and buy cars that cost $50,000 to build, then maybe those failures will be reduced. But you know what? Consumers don't want to pay that price. We want sales, we want some perceived "value".
There's no such thing as a free lunch. People expect it. But even NASA has failures.
Personally I think you'll see fewer problems, if any, with your MS3 over the next 26,000 miles. When my wife and I purchased our Mz5 it was part of the exhaust recall and had issues with blown struts and defective emission parts all in the first 10,000 miles. It was annoying yes, but my dealer always fixed the issue once (unless the second part failed) and always made the process as painless as possible (rentals, discounted oil changes etc). Now the Mz5 is approaching 50,000 and is as solid as a rock with zero issues overs the last 40,000 miles. I fully expect it to go beyond 100,000 without much drama.
Then again I've been a loyal Mazda owner for close to 20 years and never once had to worry about being stranded with a lemon. ON the other hand I've owned Toyotas and Hondas that broke more often and had pathetic service than you would expect given their advertisements.
I know it's a royal pain in the ass when your transportation breaks but try to keep things in perspective.
To repeat what I said in another thread:
I really like did the car in the beginning, but the strut and turbo failures have left me less than enthusiastic about keeping the car and using it as my track rat for five or more years- which is what I planned to do. In comparison, my other track car-a 13 year old Club Sport-has only needed a thermostat and a set of pads and rotors(and tires, of course). Couple that with the fact that the Louisville Mazda dealers refuse to hire techs with opposable thumbs and I'm ready to move on. In over 35 years of driving the MS3 is the first car I've wanted to flip after less than two years of ownership. I've been reminded-in no uncertain terms-that you DO get what you pay for...
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a while ago, i brought my car into the dealership with a cel and a boost controller. they didn't like that
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So what was the root cause of the turbo failure?
According to the Master Techs at my dealership most of the smoking turbos were caused by the wrong viscosity oil being used. The oil was too thin and made it by the seals and smoked/damaged the turbo.
According to the Master Techs at my dealership most of the smoking turbos were caused by the wrong viscosity oil being used. The oil was too thin and made it by the seals and smoked/damaged the turbo.
You can't seem to say anything good about the ms3 and you show up in every thread with the same story. The ms3 was NEVER sold as a track car although it can be used for such purposes (at the owner's risk).
Frequent tracking will no doubt put more stress on the suspension and drivetrain so you shouldn't realistically expect the car to 1. not ever have a problem or 2.the manufacturer to willingly cover all repairs (even though they probably did).
Also, I can search and find other owners of the very cars you claim to be perfect having issues so to use your own experience as the sole benchmark for reliability isn't realistic.
With that said, I cannot overlook the motor mount issues on the ms3. They really should not occur with such frequency. They need to be redesigned imo.
As for the bad turbo seals, from my own research, most of the issues stem from putting additional stress on the turbo from modding (especially exhaust related). Also there seems to be some evidence the oil type used has contributed to the issue. Your case may be different (not sure) but some WILL be bad or die prematurely. And that's with any manufacturer. The warranty is there to take care of that.
the only mod i have that really matters is a CAI.. here's the story--- during the summer, i heard loud clicking on the driver's side of the engine bay everytime i layed off the gas or started accelerating.. i had it checked out cuz it sounded like the tranny mount was going.. the guy checked it out and the bolt was stripped and was about to fall off according to him---and for some reason tried to blame my springs...? anyway.. he replaced the whole mount and bolt .. and about 5 months later, the engine gave.
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All I've used is Mobil 1 5W-30, which meets not only the SM standard but the more stringent HTO-06 standard as well. I've performed a UOA at every
5000 mile oil change and the oil has always remained in grade.
Boost controller = instant voided warranty.
///M Compact
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I guess that's why Mazda released videos trumpeting how the MS3 set a class record at the Nurburgring.
Other MS3 owners in this thread have used their positive experiences "as the sole benchmark for reliability", but I'm not allowed to do the same with regards to my negative experiences? Hmmmmm......
As I've stated previously, my car is dead stock(want to buy a still-in-the-box MS CAI, complete with AFS?). I've used Mobil 1 5W-30, changed every 5000 miles.
Having said all that, I completely understand how you and many other members of this forum only want to read Good Tidings of Great Joy from other Shining Happy MS3 Acolytes, so I promise not to post any more negative messages.
Unless something else breaks.
So I'll probably be back soon.
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it happened to me too... a friend of mine told me to change it but i didnt think anything of it... when i saw that me engine was moving more then normal i bought the motor mount at street unit... the funny part about all that... was that while i was waiting for the motor mount to get in the transmission on broke too... i was practicing taking off on 1st (stupid of me knowing th motor mount was about to break).. but then i hit 2nd shift all i heard was sumthing hit the ground... but mine was worse the engine was lower and it took out the driver side axle... luckily i was with my home boy that helps me do all the work to my car... he strapped my engine up wit the cord that holds up these thin trees (thats all we could find where we were at)... but the axle back in and took it to the yard and fixed it... when we saw what holds the transmission we were amazed.. it was just a bolt... it you go to the dealer they will put that same one... what we did was put a bigger on and replaced the motor mount.... 3 months later my axle caught up to me.. thank God it was still under warranty.....
just a little of my side of the story
F.Y.I
for anyone that has just bought a MS3.. before you start racing it change the motor mount they ALL break... and if it hasn't it will... trust... have seen it happen alot!!... just a little advise....
just a little of my side of the story
F.Y.I
for anyone that has just bought a MS3.. before you start racing it change the motor mount they ALL break... and if it hasn't it will... trust... have seen it happen alot!!... just a little advise....
So should we all assume that 0 60 numbers and 1/4 numbers posted for most makes mean they're drag cars and can be taken to the dragstrip every weekend?
You're allowed but you missed the point. Besides, I doubt any of the other posters expect to have zero issues regardless of how they drive the car.
And as mentioned previously, YOU admitted to tracking the car which could've easily contributed to premature wear and tear.
LOL, I'm looking forward to it.
i'm sorry but i would almost guarentee that day to day in traffic drive will kill a car quicker than taking to the track once a month or so....a motor needs to be ran....which is why 'run it like you stole it' sticks in my mind and i stick to it.....if the car can't hold up to that....than it's a kia
