MT: MS3 vs. Subaru Impreza WRX

[RHAGEL]

Just got my new issue of Motor Trend (Nov. 06) and as expected Mazda handed Subaru a FWD vs. AWD Beat Down! Not to mention it costs $3k less for a similarly equipped car.

 

[tsunami]

nice... damn going to have to pick that up been waiting for a comparison test article...

 

[Renesis8]

as expected, the WRX is too heavy, and the MS3 has tons of power

 

[RHAGEL]

I think one of the worst features of the WRX is the vague steering feel and feedback.

 

[Hughes412]

Well if you can't see that the MS3 would beat the WRX you'd be blind. 260hp to 230, AWD drivetrain loss to FWD drivetrain loss the MS3 will have way more WHP and has even more torque. That just isn't a good match up. But then not many cars will be!!!! The MS3 is just a badass. To bad they didn't make it AWD or RWD!

 

[Renesis8]

RWD would be perfect, but the platform wont support it, i wouldnt want the MS3 to be AWD, then it'd be heavily compared to the STi and EVO, I dont think Mazda wants those extra attention yet, and I cant really picture this is the way Mazda would like to go (Turbocharged AWD rocket). Just keep making balanced RWD cars, the MS3 and MS6 is the answer to the market, when everyone complained Mazda didnt have a straight-line performer. Good job to Mazda for listening and giving us these nice cars in such a short time!

Now that they're finished with that task, I forsee they'll place the resource and focus on developing RWD cars and make further use of the Mazdaspeed performance brand.

I'd like to see a lightweight/cheap RWD car next, Kabura concept(MX-3, RX-3) and give us a rotary supercar(RX-7) in the future!

 

[seanw]

Just got my new issue of Motor Trend (Nov. 06) and as expected Mazda handed Subaru a FWD vs. AWD Beat Down! Not to mention it costs $3k less for a similarly equipped car.

Damn, just went on a treasure hunt for the new C&D and now I hafta start all over again looking for the new MT?!

 

[mountjonas]

with scans

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1099972

 

[ZoomVT]

Well if you can't see that the MS3 would beat the WRX you'd be blind. 260hp to 230, AWD drivetrain loss to FWD drivetrain loss the MS3 will have way more WHP and has even more torque. That just isn't a good match up. But then not many cars will be!!!! The MS3 is just a badass. To bad they didn't make it AWD or RWD!

lol try telling that to the nasioc guys trashing the ms3.
some of them are just so blinded by faith. Subarus are great cars but they wont compare the handling and the interior is miles away; they wont catch up for at least 2 production rotations i think.

 

[CTGrey02]

A lot of them seem to have thier heads on thier shoulders (the scooby boys that is). The SRT-4 boards Im sure are painful as hell to read in regards to this car and the soon to have comparisons with the Caliber's hopped up big brother. Big difference in maturity.

 

[mountjonas]

they wont catch up for at least 2 production rotations i think.

i don't know about the numbers on the next gen wrx, but the 08 should give the ms3 a run for the money.

 

[ZoomVT]

Yeah, actually i was referring to the interior quality.
I think the mazda interior is way ahead of any competitor in its class.

 

[gimpo2]

lol try telling that to the nasioc guys trashing the ms3.
some of them are just so blinded by faith. Subarus are great cars but they wont compare the handling and the interior is miles away; they wont catch up for at least 2 production rotations i think.

"OMG it doesn't have AWD!! @_@ it already sucks!!"

 

[mountjonas]

the nasioc crowd hates anything and everything that doesn't pertain to their specific cars. it's sad that most threads in the members gallery turn into cock measuring fests because someone doesn't know how to offer an opinion without sounding like a gigantic ass.

 

[gimpo2]

sounds kinda familiar

 

[tsunami]

with scans

http://forums.nasioc.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1099972

wow read that yesterday when it was 2 pages and thought that most of the nasioc guys were mature individuals... dear god that went down hill fast.. lol some people on there were very open minded but the fan boys were a bit crazy... as i am sure will happen to the ms3 it will have its far share of fan boys... omg my car is f4st3st!!! as there are/were with the msp crowd... you don't find as many as those chest thumper people in the regular (2.5rs, mzda3, p5) models... ???

 

[mountjonas]

wow read that yesterday when it was 2 pages and thought that most of the nasioc guys were mature individuals... dear god that went down hill fast.. lol some people on there were very open minded but the fan boys were a bit crazy... as i am sure will happen to the ms3 it will have its far share of fan boys... omg my car is f4st3st!!! as there are/were with the msp crowd... you don't find as many as those chest thumper people in the regular (2.5rs, mzda3, p5) models... ???

yeah. it seems like most threads these days over there turn sour pretty quickly. i admit it. the ms3 is better package stock for stock. hopefully the aftermarket will be there for it.

 

[tsunami]

looking at CPE...pretty much the only option for the speed6 right now...it looks like there will be at least some nice quality parts... and some one on nasioc said something about cob doing something with it?? not sure how to take it but it would be nice... the a/m for the reg 3 is still growing its just the damn ecu thats killing us i wish mazda corp would assist with chip tuners show them how to break in and tune with a hand held or something... its the one thing that focus/vw and the such have we don't.... juan at hiboost even has a s/c kit coming out soon...

 

[Protege52003]

just got my issue.....great article and the MS3 is such a nice ride!!!!!

 

[p5sundevil]

COBB Tuning is going to at least come out with their AccesPort for the MS3, it has already been announced on the COBB forums and linked here....they have a MS3 on order to test with and are planning on first releasing the AP tuned for the stock intake, if they feel the need after testing to creat an intake/AP/Exhaust package they will do so....

my thoughts are if the stock mazda ecu on the ms6 bumps th HP up about 15 the AP from COBB can do at least 20-25, plus a nice exhaust and your above evo pwr levels for under 1500 aftermarket.

and i love how the nasioc guys clame the ms3 handling to be because of the tires and wanted a retest with better tires on the wrx, if that be the case for fair comparison you change tires on the scoobie you have to on the MS# and it would still beat it. AWD is everything to them even if they dont realize its only better for launches(in some cases) and rally/offrd use....