Msp6

[LASERBLUE135]

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in autoxing the 6i is beating evo sti and m3! rims coilovers and intake!

as for a V6 with a few grand in mods...wouldn't that still come out cheaper (msrp and insurance) than the base model speed 6?

OK lets not get carried away... the modded 6i would get it's ass handed to it by all 3 of the above cars with the same person driving it all things even. It's a rediculous statement and you lost all credibility (it may have happened ONE time and will never happen again), moving on.

In a sedan comparison the 6S manual vs the altima
6S 7.8 to 60 and 16.1 1/4 mile vs
altima 7.3 and 15.6

so regaurdless of how it was driven those number should be close to what you would get...so 6.6 (mazda's claimed 0-60 is very respectable) is good, I don't think we are bashing the car as much as nit picking... I would really have liked to see a beautifully agressive exterior similar to the MSP protege and miata WHO'S LOOKS WERE NOT BASHED LIKE THE MSP 6!!! so that goes to show that the MSP 6 was not what MOST people where hoping for. Also the 6 is not as fast as a WRX or an EVO which people maybe should have expected, but come-on, us Mazdaphiles had dreams of sub 5 second 60mph dashes and world beater performance.

Mazda produced a great car, it just didn't produce the car we dreamed about.

 

[Da 6]

that wasn't 1 time...that was multiple events...he even entered a bmw autocross. Turboed cars don't perfom well when turbo doesn't have a chance to spool if you don't beleve me I won't lose sleep.

We'll see how it goes when they officlay come out. Once someone decides after breakin to try it out then we can confirm or deny that is a turboed luxury 4cyl sedan that in some form or another awd will comeint play other than dead weight. Anyone find out what the stock rubber was on those 18's

 

[Mikey444]

One more note, the altima may be fast in a straight line, but it has a ******* huge turning radius and even in 4 cyl. is a bloody monster with understeer, it is horrible. And you cant slap an altima into a curve as fast as a Mazda 6. One more note, if you like autocrossing, the Altima will not hold up to the wear and tear. I know all this for a fact. The Mazda 6 despite having less ponies which actually makes more sense because most of us have some mercy for our drivers license can go much faster on curves and is much more capable of handling rough driving.

 

[Da 6]

altima was faster than my car...I will not sugar coat that but yes he's right...that bastard had a 1 second delay in reaction when turning at high speeds. 6 would clear a lane and a half before the altima will respond to a jerk in steering! After that I really didn't drive that much cause here in D.C. you will use evasive steering to avoid the jackass cutting you off at half the speed limit.

 

[Mikey444]

The Altima has one of the worst steering one can dream of, the car rolls soo much on a turn and you cant do as swift manoeuvers as a 6 with a Altima. What is power if you cant slap it into a sharp bend? Straight line power means nothing to me, I just like to have something 0-60 in less than 7.5 seconds and I will still have a smile on my face.

 

[timba24]

wow man I leave for a week and we have all kinds of new experts this is great

 

[Da 6]

I wanna see what the car runs w/o 18's!

 

[Mikey444]

I bet it would split at least half a second off if it has 16's, less rolling weight. I can swear I feel my car doing better straight line acceleration with the 15'' winter steelies.

 

[Da 6]

also you have colder air and gas in winter untill they switch to the antifreezing winter gas.

 

[crossbow]

obender,

6s MTX's have run 14.8 stock. Heck I think that was even on stock tires. There is a big difference in performance between a 6s atx and mtx (sorry guys). The atx's weigh considerably more then the curb weight tells you, and push out about 15-20 whp less then the mtx's.

Modified 6s mtx's (less then 1k in mods) have hit mid to low 14's. Might want to check the dyno and slip sections.

Here's a 6s mtx with a single 500 USD mod.

 

[obender66]

That's OK, I don't really care whether it is 14.8 or 12.8.
But I did notice your unjustified bias against car you haven't seen or driven, which persists on multiple Mazda6 boards and you not even trying to be original. (no)
You need to realize that this car is not about 0-60 or lateral g or 1/4 mile. It's about same thing as A4(or S4) and 330 AWD. (A4 V6 is one the best cars I've driven, I also drove E-spec Evo 7, so I know what I am talking about)
You are obviously not in the target buyer group for MSP 6, so they didn't(thanks God!) make another flimsy sh*tbox with boomy exhaust and teeth rattling ride.

 

[crossbow]

Biased? Yes, I'm biased because I don't get in line with the sheep to get my daily serving of conformity.

Feel free to use the forums ignore feature, so that you don't see anymore of my biased posts.

 

[Da 6]

thought we were having borderline friendly discussions not **** you i'm right sessions...

All we(as a whole) are saying is from the reviews we already have the car still plows! That doesn't need dyno time nor comon sense to prove awd wasn't it's best trait. Then the added features to make the mazda 6(which mazda already claims a luxury) a real luxury car goes against the point of making this car fast. Everyone keeps complaining about how evo/STi/SRT-4 and MSP have bland interior. You can only do soo much before you start weighing the car down. lighter is better! less you carry translates into a better HP:weight ratio. I appologige if we come off as Bitter 6 owners but after all the hype and long wait just to hear it wasn't much faster than a V6...you would be bitter too.