Guy down the street has 2 SRT-4's he is building. One is his and one is his girlfriends he lives with. I would not **** with either of them. His is putting down about 280 to the wheels so far and spins third gear when boosting... pretty sick and those motors hold about 450+ hp stock. Although I am sure I would eat his ass alive in the twisties... we'll find out because he is going with us to Deal's Gap in April... hehe...Donas64 said:
MSP is a POS!
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- 2003 Black Mica MazdaSpeed Protege
I love my MSP. If you don't love yours, sell it. Maybe it will get a good home and someone will fix it and enjoy it more than you have.
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Rio Racer said:
One of our local guys has one. It has ALOT of body roll compared to our cars...
I know a guy that actually drove one home... went doing some "road testing" and brought it back the same day and went and bought a MSP. That's just one example though... I am sure others love it. It's all a matter of preference and how each person handles the drivability of a car.Rio Racer said:
Rio Racer said:
They are no MSP in the handling dept. thats for sure. Stock they sit up waay to high and there is quite a bit of body roll. But overall its nothing that some But if I ever did get one, I would not touch the motor for a while. I'd spend my dough on suspension mods. With a little effort, The SRT could be made to handle as well as if not better than an msp. It's a lot easier to mod suspension than to mod a motor. Don't really want to turn this into another SRT vs MSP thread though. They both have their ups and downs.
If I could have the MSP's looks and handling, The SRT's motor and the reliability of the SRT's and ECO-TECS motor, I'd be set.
Aren't unique yes... correct... stupid?... hmmm I dunno... if you define stupid as one leaving you about 7 or 8 car lengths back from one red light to another then yes...otmsp said:
Back on topic... MSP's aren't that bad... I would say they are above average in regards to some other cars I would rather not mention. Hell I love mine... a tin can grocery getter with a pepped up motor and great handling, not to mention hella fun to drive... I'm keeping mine for a while... probably for a long while. I mean in a couple to a few years it wil be even more rare with idiots blowing them up and wrecking them left and right...
Ryoga28 said:
Agreed. He's just expressing his opinion as is allowed in a free forum! It's just fodder for discussion. thsoe who think the MSP is great will always think that and those who think the MSP sucks will probably keep that opinion.
I just happen to think its a great but flawed car.
Oh my! Well I don't know what to say after reading this entire thread! I would have to say that I love my MSP. I plan on getting my lsd welded soon and getting a new clutch and flywheel at the same time. Plus I have a DSM AFC so my car will be just as reliable as any other. No broke lsd and no more bad tune. All for about 600 bucks! Sounds like a good deal to me. Plus the car is more than fast enough to get you into some trouble around town.
I got pulled over by an undercover State Trooper in a Jeep Grand Cherokee when I was doing about 95mph and passed him. He gave me a warning and let me go. Was the day after Christmas... hehe... said it was a belated Christmas present and to slow my ass down.kamon8404 said:
otmsp said:
There's a fix for the clunk, it's permanent, it works well, it's not that expensive, I have it and love it. The radio.. aside from flaking out and people blowing their subs (probably by treating it like a lot more than the little 8" speaker that it is) I haven't heard too many issues. That being said, I can't stand kenwood head units and that's one part of the msp setup you'll never see entering my protege5. I do have the MSP door speakers though
pistons and rods.. the engines were made in japan, but the cars were transformed into MSPs at the port in the U.S. Did you really expect Mazda to totally retool their manufacturing facility in Hiroshima and elsewhere in Japan just for a limited-release end-of-model car? The pistons and rods are NO issue at stock or near stock boost levels, it's just when people try to make massive power out of the cars. Sorry Mazda didn't plan for that like 14 years ago when the FS-DE was first used in the MX-6, Probe, 626 and such.
The LSD has been fixed.. the latest revision MSP LSD is the same one used in the RX-8, MX-5, MS3, etc. They aren't having any problems with it.
If you want to ask me what one of the major problems with the MSP in stock form is, it's the motor mounts. They wear out far too quickly.
