MSP in comparison to a 2004 Toyota Celica Sport

FBI14 said:
So now we know that one guy has ran both cars and from this one person among thousnads we have a proven fact in the world that the RSX-S is faster than the MSP, glad to know it was thoroughly investigated.
And your investigation is based on...(drunk)
 
Spooled said:
And your investigation is based on...(drunk)
So when were you thinking about tryin to get that RSX. could I help you with your decision and order a Type-R Badge to get you more movitated to take your nonsensical meanlingless ideas over with that crowd, youd fit right in
 
FBI14 said:
So when were you thinking about tryin to get that RSX. could I help you with your decision and order a Type-R Badge to get you more movitated to take your nonsensical meanlingless ideas over with that crowd, youd fit right in
Don't get mad just because I made a point. I bought a Protege, didn't I? I'm not into the "my car is better than everything else" bit. I argue points based on fact.
 
Spooled said:
Don't get mad just because I made a point. I bought a Protege, didn't I? I'm not into the "my car is better than everything else" bit. I argue points based on fact.
Whos mad, I was happy to hear you were thinking about a different car. So wheres the fact that an RSX-S will always beat a MSP.
 
just some info: and some closing arguments

A. popular mechanics must either be really easy on the cars or something as there times are all slower than any magazine out there.

B. the Type S is fastest (never said it wasn't), the MSP is 2nd fastest, and the GTS is slowest.(that's on the stip, the track is difficult to say unless you ran them all the same day, same track). not my opinion, that is fact, I read car mags all the time...I'm a car geek...that's just who I am.

C. Some car magazines, don't punish cars to get all they can out of them...today I got my autoweek and they had Evo RS vs. VW gold R32...
autoweek times:
quarter mile for RS...14.5seconds
1/4 R32...14.62

the difference is shown with SPORT COMPACT CAR...
RS...13.3 seconds (more than a second difference!?!)
R32...14.8 seconds (closer to the truth)

to be fair, the RS was probably beat to hell by SCC and babied by Autoweek
and some info...SCC does its testing real time, taking the best 2 runs and averaging them (believe it or not other car mags squew the testing for temp. altitude, etc) so assume the R32 ran 14.9 it becomes 14.62(published) when its corected for altitude etc...

so back to this argument...all SCC TESTING real time (actuall stop watch/radar gun, no fudging/correcting)

Celica GTS 0-60...8.1seconds(with 7600 rpm redline, remember the 2002 model did have higher 8300 redline, so if your shoping used celicas...)

MSP protege 0-60...7.1 seconds

type S 0-60...6.9 seconds (this is 2004 and the 2005 is better with 10 more hp and better suspension)

1/4 mile

GTS...15.8 @ 88.6mph
MSP...15.3 @ 90.1mph
Type S...15.0 @ 94.5

I hope I've made my argument. I'll shut up now.
 
I believe the rsx is a smudge faster, but this magazine racing could have a number of factors to skew numbers, being maybe the driver ****** up on the quarter mile with the msp etc, just a theory. Secondly I do not see how the rsx can conceivably run a 6.9 0 to 60 because.... it just doesn't with 140 torque and only 4000 rpms of power to work with.
 

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