MS6 Forged shortblock on its way!!

[forrestang]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1193" data-quote="Captain KRM P5" data-source="post: 3354026" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=3354026" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3354026">Captain KRM P5 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> i&#039;ll gladly take any questions ... here are some teaser shots ... </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> That looks sexy.....Upping the compression?</div>

 

[Captain KRM P5]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 28512" data-quote="forrestang" data-source="post: 3354124" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=3354124" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3354124">forrestang said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> That looks sexy.....Upping the compression? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> believe it or not, lowering it</div>

 

[sbspeed]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1193" data-quote="Captain KRM P5" data-source="post: 3354153" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=3354153" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3354153">Captain KRM P5 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> believe it or not, lowering it </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I was going to ask that same question.<br /> <br /> I&#039;m wondering how the decrease in compression will affect the low end torque.<br /> <br /> In any case, get that thing together - I might have to visit you for a block rework sometime soon.</div>

 

[Captain KRM P5]

<div class="bbWrapper">the compression drop is half a point. being able to add in more boost and pull some fuel will help alot more than it will hurt <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></div>

 

[mrlilguy157]

<div class="bbWrapper">looks wonderful ken.<br /> <br /> does JE or Weisco have pistons out for the 2.3l disi? what rods are going in? paulter? cosworth?</div>

 

[dadasracecar]

<div class="bbWrapper">(bowdown) (drool)</div>

 

[MUSOM]

<div class="bbWrapper">It&#039;s good to know there is a solid upgraded block out there now. Ya never know when you&#039;re going to throw a rod threw your ass end. (hmmmm......) I would sure like to know more about it. especially pistons and rods and what other goodies are going on.</div>

 

[MUSOM]

<div class="bbWrapper">AHHHH HA! From Protege Garage&#039;s website......<br /> <br /> ProtegeGarage Built 2.3 Engine - Mazdaspeed6 and Mazdaspeed3 $4,995.00 <br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Click to enlarge <br /> Big turbos, new fuel systems, electronic engine management, free flowing exhaust ... all these parts give gains but will tax and max the stock engine before even reaching thier full potential. Built to Mazda factory specs, these engines are ready to drop into your modified Mazdaspeed, ready to be abused with higher boost and more power. All engines have the following components;<br /> <br /> - Brand new cylinder block<br /> - Brand new crankshaft<br /> - Brand new bearings<br /> - Brand new head bolts<br /> - Arias Forged Aluminum Pistons<br /> - Pauter Forged Connecting Rods<br /> <br /> This engine is built with a half point lower compression pistons and much beefier rods than the stock Mazda hardware. Going with lower compression pistons allows more boost to be pushed into the engine with less fuel and more timing. This equates to cooler combustion temps, higher efficiency and the ability to run exponentially more boost on the stock fuel system and head. We will build engines to customer specifications and do not use any used or wrecked vehicle components. Please inquire via phone or email about custom engines and we build to suit your needs.</div>

 

[Killer]

<div class="bbWrapper">Dayum...this is going to be an 11 second car if driveline parts dont explode!</div>

 

[pHeeL tHiZ ViBe]

<div class="bbWrapper">(omg)omg....</div>

 

[Captain KRM P5]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 41127" data-quote="mrlilguy157" data-source="post: 3354451" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=3354451" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3354451">mrlilguy157 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> looks wonderful ken.<br /> <br /> does JE or Weisco have pistons out for the 2.3l disi? what rods are going in? paulter? cosworth? </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> wiseco does have pistons for the car, but i am not a big fan of wisecos. JEs i am really not a fan of at all. i like supertechs, arias and cp in terms of pistons. the rods going in are pauter rods.<br /> <br /> it should be noted, normal 2.3 n/a pistons and rods cannot and should not be used in these engines.</div>

 

[chriscecc914]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 15933" data-quote="Killer" data-source="post: 3354540" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=3354540" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3354540">Killer said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Dayum...this is going to be an 11 second car if driveline parts dont explode! </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> the driveline will be getting upgraded as well. if no one makes the parts, i will go custom. My setup will look something like this before the end of the year:<br /> <br /> Protegegarage built shortblock<br /> ATP 3076R Kit<br /> 3&quot; turboback exhaust<br /> Cobb access port (bang) ...if not, another EMS<br /> 3.5&quot; ETS TMIC<br /> Rear motor mount<br /> Spec stage 2+ clutch<br /> meth/alky injection for a high boost tune<br /> <br /> I&#039;m also working on looking for a low profile hood scoop that will sit over the TMIC to let cold air in and hot air out without looking ricey.<br /> <br /> It should be a comfortable 11 second street car (thanks Ken!). I wont be taking into the track until my driveline is upgraded.</div>

 

[Killer]

<div class="bbWrapper">sounds cool...keep us posted!!!</div>

 

[cherryspeed]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 32992" data-quote="chriscecc914" data-source="post: 3354947" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=3354947" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3354947">chriscecc914 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> the driveline will be getting upgraded as well. if no one makes the parts, i will go custom. My setup will look something like this before the end of the year:<br /> <br /> Protegegarage built shortblock<br /> ATP 3076R Kit<br /> 3&quot; turboback exhaust<br /> Cobb access port (bang) ...if not, another EMS<br /> 3.5&quot; ETS TMIC<br /> Rear motor mount<br /> Spec stage 2+ clutch<br /> meth/alky injection for a high boost tune<br /> <br /> I&#039;m also working on looking for a low profile hood scoop that will sit over the TMIC to let cold air in and hot air out without looking ricey.<br /> <br /> It should be a comfortable 11 second street car (thanks Ken!). I wont be taking into the track until my driveline is upgraded. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> Why not a front mount? <br /> <br /> The stock air vents direct air to the IC. Or were you talking about cooling the turbo? Just curious.<br /> <br /> Engine looks fantastic.<br /> Good luck.</div>

 

[chriscecc914]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 36487" data-quote="cherryspeed" data-source="post: 3356138" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=3356138" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3356138">cherryspeed said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> Why not a front mount? <br /> <br /> The stock air vents direct air to the IC. Or were you talking about cooling the turbo? Just curious.<br /> <br /> Engine looks fantastic.<br /> Good luck. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> <br /> I dont like how the front mounts look on this car. If they took up the entire grill area it would look nice, but it doesnt look intimidating enough for me. The top mount will give better spool time (especially on the 3076r) and its easier to deal with then all the piping of the front mount. The TMIC will be fine especially with meth inj. <br /> <br /> An opening in the hood would allow hot air rising to vent out of the hood instead of being trapped and heat soaking the intercooler. It would be a direct opening for more cool air to hit intercooler while driving.</div>

 

[dadasracecar]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 32992" data-quote="chriscecc914" data-source="post: 3356268" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=3356268" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3356268">chriscecc914 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> The top mount will give better spool time (especially on the 3076r) and its easier to deal with then all the piping of the front mount. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote><br /> I&#039;m not so sure on the spool time...<br /> <br /> <script class="js-extraPhrases" type="application/json"> { "lightbox_close": "Close", "lightbox_next": "Next", "lightbox_previous": "Previous", "lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.", "lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow", "lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow", "lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen", "lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails", "lightbox_download": "Download", "lightbox_share": "Share", "lightbox_zoom": "Zoom", "lightbox_new_window": "New window", "lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar" } </script> <a href="https://mazdas247.com/forum/attachments/dadasracecar_wot_boost_comparo-webp.115287/" target="_blank" class="js-lbImage" data-lb-sidebar-href="/forum/i/dadasracecar_wot_boost_comparo-jpg.3615/?lightbox=1" data-lb-caption-extra-html="&nbsp;&middot; &lt;a href=&quot;/forum/i/dadasracecar_wot_boost_comparo-jpg.3615/&quot;&gt;&lt;i class=&quot;fa--xf far fa-camera &quot;&gt;&lt;svg xmlns=&quot;http://www.w3.org/2000/svg&quot; role=&quot;img&quot; aria-hidden=&quot;true&quot; &gt;&lt;use href=&quot;/forum/data/local/icons/regular.svg?v=1774365208#camera&quot;&gt;&lt;/use&gt;&lt;/svg&gt;&lt;/i&gt; View media item&lt;/a&gt;"><img src="https://mazdas247.com/forum/data/attachments/68/68883-f6bb46a65bdfae8dd4a31249f6fd43e7.jpg?hash=Y0y2izXMEo" srcset="" class="bbImage " data-type="image" style="" alt="Dadasracecar_WOT_Boost_Comparo.webp" title="Dadasracecar_WOT_Boost_Comparo.webp" width="224" height="150" loading="lazy" /></a></div>

 

[Bigg Tim]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote data-attributes="member: 1193" data-quote="Captain KRM P5" data-source="post: 3354835" class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote js-expandWatch"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/forum/goto/post?id=3354835" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" rel="nofollow" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-3354835">Captain KRM P5 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent js-expandContent "> wiseco does have pistons for the car, but i am not a big fan of wisecos. JEs i am really not a fan of at all. i like supertechs, arias and cp in terms of pistons. the rods going in are pauter rods.<br /> <br /> it should be noted, normal 2.3 n/a pistons and rods cannot and should not be used in these engines. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink js-expandLink"><a role="button" tabindex="0">Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <br /> Any rod available for the 2.3 will work, you will just have to machine the crank to fit. And nobody start saying you are stupid if you machine the crank, big dog vipers do it all the time. I know of a twin turbo viper that had it done and runs strong. If you have a good machinist, anything can be made to work right.</div>

 

[BLKOUT MSP]

<div class="bbWrapper">That setup is gonna be sick. I can&#039;t wait to see what it makes for power.</div>

 

[whooosh]

<div class="bbWrapper">are you doing anything to the cylinder head &amp; intake manifoild?<br /> how about the throttle body?<br /> <br /> just curious</div>

 

[ATLMZ6]

<div class="bbWrapper">This is a nice setup. Keep us updated on the custom parts for the drivetrain. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></div>