MS3 vs MS6: What Do You Think? *Re Opened*

[Cloke]

I wasn't for sure where to post this so I'll just do it here.

When the release of these most anticipated vehicles happens, I am going to be torn. I see the hatch style and I'm starting to like it a lot, but what I've seen about the MS6 is also mind boggling. I know that with the MS6 they kept the 4 cyl for better performance/handling instead of doing the v6 turbo. I would think though that the MS3 would be lighter, so it could go faster especially with AWD. If you guys could. Let me know what you think about these 2 up coming vehicles and which you all think would out perform the other.

The dealership knows that I'm looking at getting the MS6 and its cost show about $29,000 or so. I think I gave the sales guy a run for his money b/c he was asking me questions about it.

Comments?

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[Killer]

6

 

[Dexter]

neither?

 

[Antoine]

Both are going to have tons of potential...it will be interesting to see how the performance stats compare...it might come down to what you're looking for...design wise...function wise...price wise...size wise...etc

Good thread topic

 

[Dexter]

Well we dont even have specs for a MS3, so what is there to compare right now?

 

[genericuser]

I drive a 6 and love it.. I could only imagine what a faster awd 6 would be like (yippy)

 

[Antoine]

Well we dont even have specs for a MS3, so what is there to compare right now?

I'd estimate...FWD (AWD might be an upmarket move for the MS6 although it would rock in the MS3) + 220-240hp...hoodscoop (TMIC?)...awesome handling with great power potential (2.3 factory turbo...can't go wrong!)

 

[J dragon]

Well I haven't Driven a 3 yet, but I do love my 6.....form what I remember with my protge..It did handle better than the heavier 6.

Also everyone is praising the 3, even car, and consumer Mag's so....it boils down to what you prefer...

the 6 looks waaaaay better than that ugly 3 hatch...sorry I can't vote on this one It's too hard.

 

[crossbow]

The MPS 3. It'll be about 500-600 lbs lighter. It'll utterly obliterate the MPS 6...not even a contest of comparison between the two.

Of course it'll be FWD with an LSD, and will be competiting against the SRT-4, Redline, and Cobalt SS.

The MPS 6 isn't a racer, its a "tourer" that has some performance. The MPS 3 is designed to be a pocket rocket.

 

[Mr. 4500 RPM]

two different classes....anyone anyone?

 

[Mazda3]

A MS3 will only appeal to me if its AWD. If its FWD than I'm not interested.

 

[wongpres]

And just to be clear, the first pic (silver-gray-blue hatch) at the top of this thread is NOT the Mazdaspeed3. It's the Mazda MX-Sportif concept car, which was the preview concept to the Mazda3 (just like the MX-Crossport is the preview concept car to the CX-7).

In fact, the Mazda nomenclature is that all 'MX-' concept cars are previews to future production vehicles. Whereas something like the Mazda Sassou that's currently in Frankfurt is a pure concept vehicle.

 

[Cloke]

Well, it's the only pics of something close to what they are thinking about. Dexter is right too, the specs for the MS3 have not been released. Mazda is planning to do 1 at a time from what I've seen. You don't throw out 2 MazdaSpeeds out at the same time. Like the MSP and the MX5, these vehicles didn't even come close to coming out at the same time. I'm shocked that Mazda decided to release the MSP when it did. If I were them the MX5 would of been a good idea, but with Honda's Civic taking everything from handling and safety, Mazda had to put something out that would turnheads... a turbo'd sedan, stock. I mean you have Mercedis and Lamborghini etc but who's going to be a student or a simple person that doesn't have Donald Trump as an uncle or dad?

If the MS3 stats come out, I'll post something comparing the 2 vehicles. Right now all we have is the MS6. Since this a M6 thread, I'll post them for the MS6.

Rumor control has it that Mazda's dream is the re-release the RX7 but this time with style. It's going to have the 1st gen body style and the twin turbos for that sexy rotory engine it has. IDK if they are going to do it with the RX8 but its a goal and a plan.

Stop me if I'm wrong.

 

[Cloke]

MS6 Specs that are important​

Engine type 2.3L DOHC 16-valve Inline-4 with turbo
Horsepower, SAE net 274 @ 5500 rpm
Torque, SAE net 280 @ 3000 rpm
Redline 6700 rpm
Displacement (cubic inches) 137.9
Bore x stroke (inches) 3.44 x 3.70
Compression ratio 9.5:1
Fuel system Direct injection
Recommended fuel 93 octane*
Minimum fuel requirement Premium*
Valvetrain 4 valves per cylinder, mechanical lifters
Engine block Aluminum alloy
Cylinder heads Aluminum alloy
Emission control 3-way catalytic converter
Ignition system Full transistor breakerless electronic
Alternator 12V-110AH
Battery 55D23L
Starter 12V-1.4kw
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Type All-Wheel Drive (AWD)
Transmissions 6-speed manual
Clutch type Single dry plate with diaphragm spring
Transmission ratios 1) 1st 3.538
2nd 2.238
3rd 1.535
4th 1.171
5th 1.085
6th 0.853
Reverse 3.831
Final Drive 1st - 4th 3.611
5th, 6th, Rev. 3.095
* This vehicle is designed to use 93 octane (AKI) or higher gasoline for best performance. If 93 octane (AKI) is not available, 91 or 92 octane (AKI) gasoline can be used. In case 91 or 92 octane (AKI) is not available, gasoline as low as 87 octane (AKI) can be used temporarily for emergency purposes. Use of gasoline lower than 93 octane (AKI) can decrease performance during its use.

Power assist Engine-rpm sensitive; variable power-assist
Overall steering ratio 16.1:1
Steering wheel turns-to-Lock 2.6
Turning circle, curb-to-curb (feet) 36.8
Braking system Power assist; 4-wheel, 4-sensor, 3-channel Anti-Lock
Brake System with Electronic Brakeforce Distribution
Brake discs Front Ventilated discs (12.6 x 1.0 inches)
Rear Solid discs (12.4 x 0.4 inches)
Parking brake Mechanical, hand-operated on rear wheels
Tires P215/45R18 93Y summer radials
Tire inflation pressure (front/rear) 37.7 psi
Wheels 7.0JJ x 18
Temporary spare tire T145/70D17
Temporary spare wheel 17 x 4T
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EPA Mileage (City/Highway) 20/26
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Crankcase (U.S. quarts) 6.8
Engine coolant (U.S. quarts) 8.5
Fuel tank capacity (gallons) 15.9
EPA Passenger Volume (cubic feet) 96.1
EPA Cargo Volume 33.7
(cubic feet) Seats folded 60.5
EPA Total Volume (cubic feet) 131.7
EPA Vehicle Size Category Compact car

Wheelbase 105.3
Track: (front & rear) 60.6
Length 186.8
Width 70.1
Height 56.3
Minimum ground clearance, laden 4.86
Weight distribution, % front:rear 60:40

 

[crossbow]

You forgot to post the 3590 lb curb weight (base) or 3650 (Loaded GT).

 

[Cloke]

bump

 

[GrandBelialKey]

(sad2) I for 1, am going to wait until I drive a Ms6 to say whether it's the best mazda I've ever driven.... I'd say the MS3 might not be AWD, but the 6's are cool, bo doubt about that..... the lines make it great. (piss)

 

[Cloke]

bump

 

[crossbow]

Why are you bumping this? You created a thread wondering if a 3000 lb car with 220-240 hp is going to be better then a 3650 lb car with 274....

 

[Cloke]

Since the new release of Euro version of the MS3 and the already release MS6, I wanted to renew this thread and see what people still prefer. What does the Mazda Nation want to drive more? MS6 or MS3?