ms3 swap
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dirtysouth_msp
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Well, it would be a pretty huge project, you would need the ecu and maybe even the wiring harness. Remember the MS3 has alot of new features compared to the MSP, like direct injection. These will probably extremely hard to get and expensive at this point in time. Not to mention possible difficulty mounting the engine in the engine bay. Also, not sure that the tranny would mount up. Anything can be done with time and money, but I don't think that the swap would be worth it in the long run. Probably a better idea to just build the s*** out of the FS motor. For the money you would spend on the swap, you could probably buy a new car... The swap you speak of may be feasible several years down the road, then you may be able to find one of the MS3 motors used.
well if you found a smashed 3 it would be alot easier. The tranny will obviously work as it is mated to the 3 engine to begin with so why take it apart, the hardest part would be mounts and the wiring and getting it to fit under the hood with that big interwarmer it has. I bet you would be best off just using a stand alone ems for the motor and leave your stock ecu to deal with normal stuff. the ac would be a b**** to keep. The axles may or may not need to be replaced depending on if they fit the msp hubs and their length. The cross member would either fit with some modification or need to be fabbed all together, and the linkage would need some work im sure. all in all lots of work for not nearly enough power or fun. How much HP you want? Stock MSP motor will take you pretty close to 300HP and low 13s, you wanna go faster just buy a built bottem end and throw some gtx gears in your tranny.
Search the forums, you'll find a funny thread where a guy named ForceFed claimed to be doing the swap, but couldn't ever come up with pics even though "it was almost done". But that was with a n/a MZR.
Britt
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mazdaspeedwerx
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I am planning swapping the protege engine for the viper engine. I almost have it figured out. all I need is someone willing to give me thier v-10 for my 4
Myorangespeed
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mazdaspeedwerx said:
HAHAHAHAHA(drinks)
lilpud said:
So first you have to build the engine (haven't looked into buying Honda engines they probably only cost a quarter, but you still gotta sleeve/forge/turbo kit) then pay $8,500 to get it put in?
I'm all for originality but (ughdance)
maybe if you have the skills, it wouldn't be as hardlilpud said:
what would be needed for this?
i'm guessing:
-5 Lug front rotor swap (if you have lx you could use the 4 lug)
(i dunnot if to fit the 4 lug rotor it must be custom fab as i recall hodas don't use Mcpherson Struts)
-Welding new motor mounts, shouldn't be hard...in fact, must be the easiet thing on the swap.
Using an VTEC engine (i'm lost here... LSVTEC? whatever) together with tranny.
Maybe extending or cutting the CV-Joints to reach from tranny to rotors.
If using haltech, forget about WIRING HARNESS or anything, stand alone all the way shall do the trick allowing you to keep the original harness and ECU for the rest of the car.
Custom full hader-back exhaust...shouldn't be a problem
if i'm not mistaken, the honda tranny uses cables to shift, just like the mitsubishi eclipse tranny, so it shouldn't be as hard to get to work.
clutch lines and such can be easily rerouted and spliced together.
maybe controlling VTEC would be hard..or perhaps theres an EMS that does this? splicing a honda ECU is out of the question.
I think 8500 is about right for this swap
but if you do it yorself, like prepping the engine and having the shop just mount it and that's it should be rather inexpensive..maybe 2 to 3 thousand?
kinda cool turboing that motor too...
oh gosh...can we dream?
THEN, what the **** are we wasting money for on this piece of s*** FSDE for?
lets do the swap, goddamnit, we could be doing 600whp all motor on a car that handles sick (even tho we don't know how it will handle after the suspension swap) and is gonna look ******* sick!
Imagine this
Protege Mazdaspeed VTEC
lol
cheesy
lets do the swap, goddamnit, we could be doing 600whp all motor on a car that handles sick (even tho we don't know how it will handle after the suspension swap) and is gonna look ******* sick!
Imagine this
Protege Mazdaspeed VTEC
lol
cheesy
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- 07 CX7 GT AWD W/Tech Pkg; 03.5 Mazdaspeed Protege
Now what I'd like to see is someone figure out how to get the J-Spec MX-6 KL-ZE I believe is the tag in the front of a protege... I was working on doing a FS-ZE install on my de MX-6 a few years ago but it just wasn't worth the hassle. I love the engine swaps but so much of a pain in the ass that it usually isn't worth it
If I remember correctly someone did a ZE swap for an NA Protege on this board a couple of years ago... didn't work out as well as they thought
If I remember correctly someone did a ZE swap for an NA Protege on this board a couple of years ago... didn't work out as well as they thought
i do know there is more hope for the KL-ZE, but too much money
the engines dropes right it and you don't need to fb custom mounts since the engine bay o both 626, mx-6, ford probe and protege are all the same.
i would do this
get an american KL v6 engine from a 626, mx-6 or probe GT 93-97, get the tranny, and twin turbo that b****....
now, that's something DOABLE and not IMPOSSIBLE..
is actually been done before, someone in here did it on a white protege if i'm not mistaken
the engines dropes right it and you don't need to fb custom mounts since the engine bay o both 626, mx-6, ford probe and protege are all the same.
i would do this
get an american KL v6 engine from a 626, mx-6 or probe GT 93-97, get the tranny, and twin turbo that b****....
now, that's something DOABLE and not IMPOSSIBLE..
is actually been done before, someone in here did it on a white protege if i'm not mistaken
