MS3 Short Shifter

[knowledge007]

why don't you try and take your shift lock mechanism apart and you will fully understand what i am saying. o wait, you don't even know what that is, so i guess you will never understand.

you don't understand because you know NOTHING about how our cars work bud. ur "knowledge" username doesn't suit you at all. (butt)

and, for all you skeptics !

and if you still don't believe it .... (o yeah, i'm bluffing, i forget!)


CaSHMeRe's STS MOVIE (Side Profile View) !!!

Has nothing to do what I know and don't know. That sentence in itself does not make any sense to me. I don't under stand how "shortening the throw and shifter itself, has nothing to do with the "actual throw" of the gears. it changes the speed and velocity at which they engage, etc..." does affect, or can not affect for that matter the actual throw of the gears.

I still don't understand why people have to undermine others. How the hell do you know what I know and don't know?

I have not yet said anything to disrespect you in any way. And yet people like you have the audacity to put others down. Im getting sick of this forum and half the ass's on here...

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Has nothing to do what I know and don't know. That sentence in itself does not make any sense to me. I don't under stand how "shortening the throw and shifter itself, has nothing to do with the "actual throw" of the gears. it changes the speed and velocity at which they engage, etc..." does affect, or can not affect for that matter the actual throw of the gears.

I still don't understand why people have to undermine others. How the hell do you know what I know and don't know?

I have not yet said anything to disrespect you in any way. And yet people like you have the audacity to put others down. Im getting sick of this forum and half the ass's on here...

i am not meaning to put you down bud, but before you say you don't understand something, go do some research. people that are familiar with shift interlock mechanism and the pivot point on tranny side would fully understand that statement. lets see if i can break this down a little more.

engagement into gears will ALWAYS STAY THE SAME (throw wise) !!! By shortening the throw, you are NOT shortening the engagement of those gears. You are shortening the throw of the linkage itself. by establishing a new pivot point (on tranny side), you can either place the pivot point closer to the center of the shift lock mechanism, therefore, decreasing the throw of the linkage and speeding up the engagement of the gears, OR you can move it further away, thus slowing down the engagement and have to "row" that much further to get into gears.

did you understand that a little better? if not, shoot me a question and i will see how i might be able to answer. again, its hard to fully understand unless you have uninstalled/installed these parts.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Dp

 

[knowledge007]

thank you, I appreciate it. Yes that cleared a few things.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

thank you, I appreciate it. Yes that cleared a few things.

awesome ...

and if you are thinking about a new mount, there is a guy in another forum that is testing new mounts (dogbone style, both solid and polyurethane). if you are interested, i can hook you up, let me know. just PM me

 

[Kosh]

How different is the stock shifter between the ms3 to the ms6? I see TWM already has a ms6 short shifter out.

 

[dread]

go ahead and support cobb/twm ... and spend all your money on mods that you will never get back.

let alone having issues with warranty, etc...

with mine, i use ALL STOCK PARTS !!! no warranty issues !!!!

why don't you try and support fellow MS3 owners instead of hating on people for trying to make good parts for the MS3 at a reasonable price ?

Dude if you think that cutting and welding the shifter has less of a chance of voiding the waranty than installing a SS then you are crazy. You are pretty aggressive for someone who wants to be a vendor. I can just imagine what you would say if I reported a problem with one of your shifters. TWM is a member and a SPONSER of this forum. I have bought products from them before and trust their engineering and customer service. Plus they don't get pissed at every comment on this forum. How is giving my money to them any different that giving it to you? Besides the fact that I will get a reliable product with good customer service.

 

[CaSHMeRe]

Dude if you think that cutting and welding the shifter has less of a chance of voiding the waranty than installing a SS then you are crazy. You are pretty aggressive for someone who wants to be a vendor. I can just imagine what you would say if I reported a problem with one of your shifters. TWM is a member and a SPONSER of this forum. I have bought products from them before and trust their engineering and customer service. Plus they don't get pissed at every comment on this forum. How is giving my money to them any different that giving it to you? Besides the fact that I will get a reliable product with good customer service.

i get defensive when something i worked soooo hard to do gets shot down. but, i think anybody does, so i apologize.

either way bud, i am not trying to cause any ruckus, just trying to give members an option as far as an STS is concerned.

No doubt, both cobb and twm have outstanding customer service, and great products, but you need to wonder, when it takes me and 2 buddies 3 hours to accomplish what TWM and COBB have been trying to do for close to 8 months, customers needs must not be a high priority to these guys. (uhm)

the fact that our sts is available now and our price is going to be substantially cheaper then both cobb and twm, are great pro's for our shifter i believe !

just my thought. i appreciate you input, and look forward to helping out fellow ms3's owners

 

[CaSHMeRe]

double post (wiggle)

 

[CaSHMeRe]

How different is the stock shifter between the ms3 to the ms6? I see TWM already has a ms6 short shifter out.

i don't really know kosh. if i can get a local ms6 to stop by, i should be able to tell you the differences...

 

[dread]

I think its great you came up with a short shifter, but you are limited to selling the modification to people in so cal since you are modifying stock parts. The height on your shifter looks good. Twm and cobb are taking longer because they have to develop replacement parts, rather than a way to modify the stock parts.

 

[knowledge007]

The height is nice.

(thumb)

 

[CaSHMeRe]

I think its great you came up with a short shifter, but you are limited to selling the modification to people in so cal since you are modifying stock parts. The height on your shifter looks good. Twm and cobb are taking longer because they have to develop replacement parts, rather than a way to modify the stock parts.

actually, my buddies and i were taking this into account. we are thinking about burning directions, pics, videos to disk with step by step directions, that you can take to your local machine shop and get done !!! if i had a shop, i would have already had these produced. Full replacement parts. but i don't, so i am limited, ur right.

The height is nice.

(thumb)

Thanks, i had 1" chopped originally, but felt it was still too high, then had another 1.5" taken off

 

[dcomiskey]

TWM, any eta on this yet?

 

[Kosh]

TWM, any eta on this yet?

I emailed them yesterday and they replied some time in mid-to-late July. Email Kevin sales@twmperformance.com and tell him you are interested and he will put you on an email list for when the product is ready.

+1 for TWM for customer service

 

[clos561]

i think if my shifter was just lower i could shift alot better.dont think i need to reposition the cables or anything

 

[dcomiskey]

I emailed them yesterday and they replied some time in mid-to-late July. Email Kevin sales@twmperformance.com and tell him you are interested and he will put you on an email list for when the product is ready.

+1 for TWM for customer service

s***...another month delay? Grrr...


clos, shortening the shaft isn't going to do squat for you.

 

[TWM Performance]

TWM, any eta on this yet?

We're just waiting on some revised laser cut plates and hope to have the final version tested by the end of next week. I'll have more news by the end of next week. Thank you for your support guys.

Kevin
TWM

 

[clos561]

s***...another month delay? Grrr...


clos, shortening the shaft isn't going to do squat for you.

when i grip the shifter lower to the bottom i can shift fast and i only mess up because im not holding a knob its like im beatin off or something...im not gona cut s*** but its jsut something i tried...ss kit is the best way to go

 

[dcomiskey]

bump... any word??