MP3 Intake manifolds

[Todd_Brown]

I'm thinking of putting the MP3 intake manifold on my 2001 2.0 LX. How much benefit (if any) for this change. Are the MP3 manifolds that much different?
Todd

 

[KYREDP5]

None, it is exactly the same.

 

[Todd_Brown]

None, it is exactly the same.

I work at a dealership, and parts tells me they are different part numbers then a regular 2.0l , so they aren't "exactly" the same,however, if there is no perfromance benefit, who makes a good intake manifold for a 2.0 l.?
Todd

 

[PaulMP3]

i think the mp3 doesnt have VICS. that the protege and pro 5 have. im not to sure what they do but im pretty sure that is the difference.

 

[twizyours]

Mp3 has vics, it doesnt have vtcs. Well I was going to change the manifold as well. but Traveler on here just took out the butterflys and grinded the lips off and it is the same thing. Do a search for the other post, it shouldnt cost you much to just take it out and port the lip or overlap. Know waht you are doin before you do this, because we have to solenoids on our manifold. One for VICS and one for the VTCS. The VTCS needs to be pluged into its connector not to throw a code, but that is all the hoses dont need to be connected to anything.

 

[mp3boy1984]

you want the japan mp3 intake manifold from cork sport, there is a difference with that one. That is one of the ways that the Japanese engine is able to achieve 170 hp, versus us.

 

[twizyours]

Are you sure I don think that anyone has actually taken measurment of the runners sizes because if not I personally believe the only difference is the silencer connecte to the maniflold. I also dont think you will get much more power then just removing the VTCS buterflys. Removing the VTCS buterflys around 10 dollars and time. FSZE manifold $400 dolaars if you would even be luck to get one more horsepwer then just removing the butterflys.

 

[Traveler]

The FS-ZE manifold has slightly different runners, no VTCS and it also has a resonator that increases the volume of the plenum and evens out the intake pulses. TheMan has one and swears by it. I simply removed the VTCS from the stocker, plugged the end hole where the shaft goes in and ground the upper runners to get rid of the reverse "step" in the runner. I definately noticed a difference in performance especially during warmup. ANother major difference that I noticed that also coincides with what TheMan got, is that it takes a lot less throttle to go down the road.

You MUST leave the vacuum servo connected or use a vacuum plug on the VTCS solenoid. If you disconnect the plug it will set a CEL the second drive cycle.

 

[Todd_Brown]

Will the current ECU handle the switch frpm VTCS to a VISC system manifold, or is a swap to an MP3 ECU recommended?
Todd

 

[twizyours]

Their is no visc. You already have vics. Just leave the vtcs plugged in with hoses that traveler said to leave plugged in and you will be fine.

 

[Mackdaddy]

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[Todd_Brown]

I appreciate all the info. I think I'm leaning to the Japanese manifold.
Todd