Mods you have regreted or regret and Why?

[boostisgood]

Again, Im not knocking the product. Just the ammount of EXTRA time it took to finish. Knowing the ammount of time I was traveling to and from, and the lack of responsability for my items.

 

[srtchick]

dude thats fukced up! total lack of respect for your stuff !

 

[acidbug]

Late Jan-Travel 3 hours 1 way to just get measured. assured that kit will be complete upon next vist in 2 weeks. drive home 3 hours.

early feb-drive out 3 hours, arrive early, They are still finishing up SImp3's turbo kit. Wait almost 3 hours for my work to start. pulled most of the car apart myself for Wagner to work. (not that I care, but most customers are NOT willing to do that) there till about 7 PM, bought lunch and beers, only had IC built and mounted.

Mid feb-keep 2 of my judges, who were with me for a Friday seminar at one of the NCCA sponsors facilites, an extra day, because I was assured that the kit will be complete. well, ic was rebuilt because of whatever reason. and only half of the hot pipe, and all of the cold pipe built. Missing 3 connectors, that were to be ordered from the late jan measuring. (snowing bad out, got a ticket, had to stay at hotel-$150.00 total just for those 2)

late feb-Friday before a big show in Harrisburg myself and another one of my judges arrive to FINISH the kit. well, it take 8 hours to finish the kit, that should have been done 2 trips ago. it was late, and I had to get to the venue. So we decided that Sunday after the show, I would return to have a DP made, and pick up my stock items. Call Andrew sunday around noon, and told that it would be a good thing, as his computer were down, and he needed to get them working. Cool, make sure the box with my stock s*** is safe, and Ill get it next time Im in the area, or when we make arrangements to finish the DP and exhaust.

Well, I needed my stock items to have some warranty work done on the car, and call Andrew to ask if they can be sent out at my expense. He sounds a bit preturbed, like he does not have them. He then assures me that all my items (stock IC-INTAKE pipe, hot pipe cold pipe, all clamps and bolts and nuts, and brackets will be sent out before he leaves for Cali) Needless to say, I never hear from him. I called the shop later that day, and in the following morning to get a price so I can send him the money.

I had to sell my Wagner kit for cash and trade of stock items to get my car to the shop. Well, I also receive a box from Wagner containing none of my origional items. No brackets for the IC, no clamps for the IC pipes, the cold pipe was busted, no intake pipe. all in all about 895 dollars worth of items broken or missing. I PMed him about this issue very recently, (same day he posted about the AEM being released) and have not recieved a responce.

Mind you, it is also almost 250 miles 1 way, and 24 dollars in tolls. Add gas ect ect. I payed well over 1300 dollars to be the test mule for this FMIC.

Granted, the product was good. Im not satisfied with the customer service, or lack there of.

Wow dude..Sorry to hear about the problems you had w/ andy...it' reminds me of a post i made not to long..that stirred up lots of controversy..b/c everyone thinks andy is a god!

Chas(flame2)

 

[boostisgood]

Im not saying he does not do good work, he does. His customer service is non existant, and communication with current or prospective customers is worse.

 

[girth]

Wow....I guess Micah was right when he said Andy's main downfall is that he's not very organized. That sounds like the root of most of your problems with him too.

Back on topic, the only mod I'm not all that happy with is the AWR motor mounts. Just too much violent shaking for me. I'll probably take them out when winter rolls around.

 

[acidbug]

Im not saying he does not do good work, he does. His customer service is non existant, and communication with current or prospective customers is worse.

I wasn't tryin to say andy does crap work either..b/c i have seen some of his manifolds upclose..and they looks awesome..welds are good and such.

But as you said..customer serviced sucked..remember i was calling, pming, and emailing him about my fuel pump for over 1 month.

Chas(pissed)

 

[boostisgood]

Yup, I remember that bro.

 

[lasermp5]

wow.... not cool

 

[MPNick]

Late Jan-Travel 3 hours 1 way to just get measured. assured that kit will be complete upon next vist in 2 weeks. drive home 3 hours.

early feb-drive out 3 hours, arrive early, They are still finishing up SImp3's turbo kit. Wait almost 3 hours for my work to start. pulled most of the car apart myself for Wagner to work. (not that I care, but most customers are NOT willing to do that) there till about 7 PM, bought lunch and beers, only had IC built and mounted.

Mid feb-keep 2 of my judges, who were with me for a Friday seminar at one of the NCCA sponsors facilites, an extra day, because I was assured that the kit will be complete. well, ic was rebuilt because of whatever reason. and only half of the hot pipe, and all of the cold pipe built. Missing 3 connectors, that were to be ordered from the late jan measuring. (snowing bad out, got a ticket, had to stay at hotel-$150.00 total just for those 2)

late feb-Friday before a big show in Harrisburg myself and another one of my judges arrive to FINISH the kit. well, it take 8 hours to finish the kit, that should have been done 2 trips ago. it was late, and I had to get to the venue. So we decided that Sunday after the show, I would return to have a DP made, and pick up my stock items. Call Andrew sunday around noon, and told that it would be a good thing, as his computer were down, and he needed to get them working. Cool, make sure the box with my stock s*** is safe, and Ill get it next time Im in the area, or when we make arrangements to finish the DP and exhaust.

Well, I needed my stock items to have some warranty work done on the car, and call Andrew to ask if they can be sent out at my expense. He sounds a bit preturbed, like he does not have them. He then assures me that all my items (stock IC-INTAKE pipe, hot pipe cold pipe, all clamps and bolts and nuts, and brackets will be sent out before he leaves for Cali) Needless to say, I never hear from him. I called the shop later that day, and in the following morning to get a price so I can send him the money.

I had to sell my Wagner kit for cash and trade of stock items to get my car to the shop. Well, I also receive a box from Wagner containing none of my origional items. No brackets for the IC, no clamps for the IC pipes, the cold pipe was busted, no intake pipe. all in all about 895 dollars worth of items broken or missing. I PMed him about this issue very recently, (same day he posted about the AEM being released) and have not recieved a responce.

Mind you, it is also almost 250 miles 1 way, and 24 dollars in tolls. Add gas ect ect. I payed well over 1300 dollars to be the test mule for this FMIC.

Granted, the product was good. Im not satisfied with the customer service, or lack there of.

Are they still your sponsor after this?


Thanks again


Later.........Nick

 

[boostisgood]

MPNick, If I no longer have his product on my car, I verywell cannot be sponsored. So no, I have officially terminated my sponsorship with Wagner Motorsports.

 

[Matthew]

sorry but wagner sucks, from what i hear, but who wants to turn this into another flamewar?

2Loww for me. then the neons i bought for one car show and havent used since (and think i busted a tube or something on my drivers side - i only turn them on when i accidently bump the switch which is conviently - or unconviently if you are taller - located near the steering wheel)

 

[MP3skaterNC]

mazdaspeed shoulder pads and yellow calipers when the car was about a month old. yes i used to be a ricer.

 

[tiwing]

i bought that vynal dash trim kit from ebay and it's still sitting in the tube it came in. I'm afraid it will look like ASS when I put it on, so there it sits. And I'm afriad it will leave goo when I try and take it back off. Maybe one day...

 

[Matthew]

it WILL suck (from experience) but will NOT leave goo (also from experience)...

way i see it - you got a 50/50 chance of being satisfied. i was not, and returned mine for a full refund.

 

[mazdaspeedpower]

Only mod I regret....not getting any yet. Damn that mod, I hate it. Oh yus, and the amount of Gasoline I burn driving around alll the time. at $0.86 a litre, it's kinda pricey

 

[Leadfoot]

Ditto....$500/month (bad apr), plus $150/month for insurance. Kills a paycheck fast as hell!

my car payment.......i cant hardly afford other mods (hand) (blowjob)

 

[Matthew]

Only mod I regret....not getting any yet. Damn that mod, I hate it. Oh yus, and the amount of Gasoline I burn driving around alll the time. at $0.86 a litre, it's kinda pricey

feel ya there. somehow gas managed to jump 20 cents in one night here two days ago. i was paying 1.75 for 93 octane now its at 1.95 as of this morning (forgot to check on the way home from work)

 

[BlueWolfCry]

none, i was very careful in choosing my (2) mods hahah

 

[Kooldino]

Wagner FMIC-Cost me more in trips/tickets/hotel stays, then it wouldve if I had just gone in on the G/B 4 trips to get a frikin FMIC done is just lame. Ohhh did I mention that my stock items were never returned to me, I got someone else's broken s***.

FYIroduct was not a bad one, just how everything played out for me personally, Ill never deal with Wagner Motorsports again. Piss poor consideration for a customer if you ask me.

4 trips? Geezus.

 

[MPNick]

MPNick, If I no longer have his product on my car, I verywell cannot be sponsored. So no, I have officially terminated my sponsorship with Wagner Motorsports.

It is never a good thing to see anyone lose time,money and parts. However there have been more then a few people come this forum and try to warn people about their own past dealings with Perf and or Andy. It was howevern people like yourself who always tried to stop this. Now you see just a little of what I myself had to deal with. Maybe it will take something like this before people can see the facts and not the smoke screen. Again I am sorry that you had to learn the hard way like some others had to. Hopefully some good may come from this and no one else will get burned.


Thanks again


Later............Nick