Mazdaspeed's price and Performance specs!!!!

colin949 said:
I dont think anyone knows the top speed yet, i heard it was pretty fast, what do you guys think?

Well reading from what callaway posted it says the new MS-P has a faster acelleration to 60mph, 1/4mile, and Topspeed over it's 130Bph mark. I think that's what they said don't know. But as for the MS-P being turbo and if it is basically drag limited i'd say around 135-142mph maybe though not sure but just a guess. But i know it'll be over 135++mph. hehe...:D
 
hey tritonheat1

do you think you can post the link of from callaway that they said all this?...it's realy hard for me to believe that they will allow trhe MS-P to get up to 135mph!...i really have to see this for myself.
thanks!!

-Limited Edition:)
 
colin949 said:
In roadand track and motortrend they allready tested the car, and it will be under 7 seconds. IT will say it in the magizines when there out, i think road and tracks allready out, but it will show the car under 7 seconds

Where did you hear that if you don't mind my asking?

And about that article that Triton dug up. Man, that is very old news, that very same article was originally released on Callaway's website a few months back. They say that they have succeeded in developing a motor that has potential to deliver a significant improvement over its 130bph counter part. The bph is clearly a typo for bhp. Also take notice that they did not give any numbers nor did they give an estimation.

Just to clear up the top speed thing you guys are discussing. If you read it a little closer, you'll see that they said the motor has potential to improve the top speed in the quarter mile."Improve the top speed in the quarter mile". I also took the liberty to bold the key words for you guys.
 
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wait a minute, wait a minute.........

APEXistud said:


Where did you hear that if you don't mind my asking?

And about that article that Triton dug up. Man, that is very old news, that very same article was originally released on Callaway's website a few months back. They say that they have succeeded in developing a motor that has potential to deliver a significant improvement over its 130bph counter part. The bph is clearly a typo for bhp. Also take notice that they did not give any numbers nor did they give an estimation.

Just to clear up the top speed thing you guys are discussing. If you read it a little closer, you'll see that they said the motor has potential to improve the top speed in the quarter mile."Improve the top speed in the quarter mile". I also took the liberty to bold the key words for you guys.

Tell me where it says all that. Topspeed in the quarter mile. All i see is,"callaway succeeded in developing an engine that has the potential to deliver an significant improvement in 0-60mph acceleration time and quarter mile Topspeed over it's 130bph naturally-aspirated conterpart." well if your saying topspeed in the quarter mile, first of all the MS-P will need alot more oommpphh to do the 1/4mile at 130.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: I guess if that's what your saying. Correct me if i'm wrong.
 
You say it in your post and you don't see it?? The portion of the press release says this:

"...Working side-by-side with MNAO's own engineering experts, Callaway succeeded in developing an engine that has the potential to deliver a significant improvement in 0-60 mph acceleration time and quarter-mile top speed over its 130 bph naturally-aspirated counterpart..."

The parts to notice would be, "...Callaway succeeded in developing an engine that has the potential to deliver a significant improvement in 0-60 mph acceleration time and quarter-mile top speed over its 130 bph naturally-aspirated counterpart..."

No where in the press release does it say the top speed in the quarter mile is going to be 130.

The only "130" that I saw in the whole press release was in reference to the stock 2.0 liter motor.

So to sum up, the improvements will be in the 0-60 time, and in the quater mile top speed over the stock Protege with a 2.0 liter motor that puts out 130 bhp.

Which makes sense since the Mazdaspeed Protege is supposed to make an estimated 170 bhp, which is also stated in the Callaway press release.
 
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Just so we are all on the same page...

Here is the url to said press release from Callaway:
http://www.callawaycars.com/From_home/mazdaspeedpr.htm

And, if you won't go there, here is the text...Sorry for the length.

New York, NY (March 28, 2002)-Callaway Cars has been selected by Mazda North American Operations (MNAO) as the engine and system development partner for the new MAZDASPEED PROTG. The prototype vehicle debuts at the 2002 New York International Auto Show. The MAZDASPEED PROTG is a sport compact with strong youth market appeal, including distinctive fun-to-drive character and a wealth of serious performance features. Chief among these is the show car's spirited turbocharged DOHC four-cylinder powertrain, featuring an estimated 170 bhp and 160 lbs.-ft. of peak torque. The new Turbo engine application -developed, tested and validated at Callaway's Old Lyme, CT engineering headquarters-is the latest chapter in Callaway's recent OEM partnership success stories. Leading automotive brands like Chevrolet, Land Rover and Holden Special Vehicles have all selected Callaway for major product programs and special edition projects.

Collaborative Performance Engineering Drives Callaway Advanced Technology

Callaway's Advanced Technology group was charged with creating a production-ready engine application that could live up to the performance promise of the MAZDASPEED name. To achieve Mazda's maximum performance targets, Callaway tapped into 26 years of expertise in developing both race winning and street proven turbocharger systems. As with all Callaway projects, every phase of development was based on the company's fundamental engineering goals: excellent power and driveability, strong durability and full emissions compliance. Working side-by-side with MNAO's own engineering experts, Callaway succeeded in developing an engine that has the potential to deliver a significant improvement in 0-60 mph acceleration time and quarter-mile top speed over its 130 bph naturally-aspirated counterpart.

To achieve these engine characteristics Callaway's engineers applied their in-house arsenal of sophisticated engineering software to every stage of the engine package development. Critical design steps like parametric modeling of intake and exhaust components and assembly and packaging of turbocharger components were conducted in record time, using PTC's Pro/ENGINEER software. Pro/E software solutions gave Callaway engineers powerful Intuitive Direct Modeling capability, combined with advanced assembly abilities, for top-down modular assembly design. Engineers easily validated component design by transforming engineering drawing files into plastic rapid prototype parts.

"One of Callaway's great strengths is our team's ability to fully exploit all the benefits of today's incredible computer engineering technologies, while sticking to our philosophy that great engines require a craftsman's intuition," said Michael Zoner, managing director of Callaway Cars. "Pure and simply-our people have a passion for the almost human qualities of a powertrain-its pulse, its voice, its complex relationship with all the other components and systems. It's this dedication to old-world engineering values that really strikes a note of differentiation with our OEM customers."

Intensive Testing and Validation Part of All Callaway Engine Development Programs

Callaway Advanced Technology offers OEM customers full testing and validation capabilities at every step of an engine development cycle, including engine and chassis dynamometer testing, on road and on-track vehicle performance and driveability evaluations, and component testing-such as fluid mechanical and thermal dynamic analysis. Callaway engineers are also highly skilled in powertrain control module programming and are able to optimize every element of the vehicle's operations for the engine application.

Every performance engine developed at Callaway, even those with the most aggressive performance targets, never compromise predictable on-road vehicle behavior

Callaway High Performance Engines

Callaway has been developing and assembling sophisticated high-performance engines for some of the world's best-known brands. Most recently, Callaway engineers created a new 6.2 liter 480-hp LS6-based V8, a "stroked" derivative of the Callaway-tuned LS1 5.7-liter V8 that powered the Holden Racing Team GTS to victory at Bathurst, Australia's most prestigious annual race for standard passenger cars. Callaway's relationship with HSV dates back to 1999, when the company developed a 405-hp LS1 engine for the highly successful HSV GTS. Since then, Callaway has produced nearly 2,000 high-performance engines for HSV.

Callaway also developed a special supercharged engine application as part of its SEMA show car, the Callaway Freelander. Featuring extensive exterior and under-the-hood Callaway modifications, the show car enjoyed an enthusiastic media reception and is currently being considered for future production.

About Callaway Companies

Callaway Companies' (www.callawaycars.com) world-class engineering team blends master craftsmanship with the latest automated technologies at its U.S. headquarters in Old Lyme, CT. The 18,000 square-foot facility is home to two core business units:

Callaway Cars caters to the enthusiast market through team-based development of limited edition, high-performance automotive, motorcycle and marine products for both OEM and retail customers. In collaborative effort among all Callaway entities, this team designs and builds the Callaway C12 super sports car, and its GT racer sibling, the Callaway C12R.

Callaway Advanced Technology (CAT) supports OEM engineering needs by delivering a full range of rapid and efficient contract engineering services, with special focus on high-performance parts and systems. CAT offers the latest in computer-aided design applications, in-house machining, craftsman-quality assembly and complete dynamometer and validation services. CAT's in-house team of engineers has access to the latest technologies and equipment, including such leading software solutions as PTC's PRO/Engineer.

Callaway maintains its focus on racing activities through its Leingarten, Germany, based affiliate, Callaway Competition GmbH. The subsidiary builds world-class Sports GT competition cars, including the Callaway C12R (in conjunction with Callaway Cars and CAT). Callaway Competition features the latest in advanced composite structure design, fabrication and molding, and offers in-house construction of components. It also offers complete motorsports preparation and set-up services, along with a heritage of successfully competing in many of the world's great endurance races, including the prestigious 24 Hours of Le Mans.

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Re: Just so we are all on the same page...

StuttersC said:
Here is the url to said press release from Callaway........

Thank you for seeing what I saw, I was beginning to wonder if I was just imagining things.
 
ok guys, just got back from Vacation. I went to Washington State, By Spokane my grandma lives in a town called airway heights it's right next to the Fairchild (A.F.B) Air force base. it'd only like 5-10miles by Spokane. Anyways the day i left to go to Spokane, I stopped at the car dealer (Selma Auto Mall) i asked if they are coming out with the 2003 MS-P they said yeah and alot of people have been coming down to get one, but they don't know when it's coming in, what color it's going to be, what the price is, nor either taking down payment's cause they don't know the price cause somebody allready tried to do that. But he said all he knows is it's A beef up Protege with all the goodies and it's Turbocharged, And that they're only getting one. I asked when is it going to come in and he said most likely the end of August or the beggining of September. Then he goes well when did you get your MP3, That's more likely when it'll be here guess what, i got the MP3 on August 14 2001. I don't know what to do cause i want this beast but i allready know people are dying to have this car and also that he didn't know the specs but all he said was that the Press said that it will have balls and be Fast than what we think even though the HP is at 170. OH well i guess i'll have to wait and see :eek: :cool: :D :) ;)
 
Re: Re: mazdaspeed's price and performance specs!!!!

APEXistud said:


There's a winner. :bs: :rolleyes:. Let's just wait to see, although I highly doubt it will run anywhere in the 6's

Can you say who's your daddy LoL:o

0-60mph 6.9sec.................. as i stated before long time ago :p

your 0-60mph.. low to mid 7's..

Price tag i believe i said 19,700$ scrilla's

your price tag was around 22,-23000 mulla's.

hehe J/K but still who's yo DADDYYYYYYYYYYY???????????????????;) LOL hehe.
 
SCC has released their times and they pulled a 7.1 0-60 and a 15.3 1/5 mile time, which still makes my estimations ball park. I posted the MS-P to run anywhere from 7.1-7.7 and I even went as far as saying a possible high 6 second pass and my estimations for the 1/4 mile time are right on, so it's no problem with me bro.
 
hehe J/k I understand man i know different car magazines have different number's but i'll stick with the 6.5-6.9sec 0-60's untill it's really broken in. But hey what can i say we are both right on some categories ehh:cool: lol I say the MS-P broken in at 10,000+plus miles will be at 6.7sec hehe.:p
 
SpecV's feel pretty fast when you're driving them (LOTS of TQ low end), so If its about the same (hopefully a little quicker) it will be fine with me.
I was looking at the dyno for it, and even though it has less hp and tq it dynoed 6 more hp than my specV, and same TQ!!!!
THat is very little drivetrain loss, damn impressive.
Can't wait to get mine!!!

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02' SE-R SpecV Molten Silver
Coming soon= 03' MazdaSpeed Protege'
 
Lawerence said:
SpecV's feel pretty fast when you're driving them (LOTS of TQ low end), so If its about the same (hopefully a little quicker) it will be fine with me.
I was looking at the dyno for it, and even though it has less hp and tq it dynoed 6 more hp than my specV, and same TQ!!!!
THat is very little drivetrain loss, damn impressive.
Can't wait to get mine!!!

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02' SE-R SpecV Molten Silver
Coming soon= 03' MazdaSpeed Protege'

Welcome to the board and how do you like your SpecV. My bro has a 2002 Torquoise SpecV with exhaust and Injen CAI, and that sucker moves everytime i race someone in his car i always peel out in 1st and 2nd gear. What was impressive was when i was at like 65mph from 5th i threw it to third and it just chirpp. Anyways yeah the freakin things has balls. Well seeing as you are going to get the 2003 MS-P, Are you rich or something:p hehe , but i hope you enjoy the MS-P though.

MSP Specs:

(Car-and-Driver)

0-60mph 6.9sec
1/4mile 15.4sec@91mph

(SCC)

0-60mph 7.1sec
1/4mile 15.3sec@93mph
 
Thanks alot! I'm so excited about getting the MSP!
Yea, when I first got it I was chirping all the way through third too :)
I'm wish I was rich, that way I could keep my specV and get the MSP!!! but I have to sell it so...anyone want a 02 specV? :)
 
spec-v times

btw, i'm from spec-v boards b/c i've been interested in them for quite some time now (1.5 yrs?)

anyhow, according to what i've read, people have gotten 15.1 in the quarter mile stock, some needed some mods to get that time.

as for the 0-60 time. it really hasn't been talked about much, but there was talk that it was actually under 7 for them to have gotten a 15.1 in the 1/4. If it isn't under 7 secs for the spec, then that can easily be explained by the fact that the spec has to shift 2 times to reach the 60mph mark.. which easily accounts for the higher 0-60 time.

as for the ms-p i'm quite excited about getting more news about it from my dealer :D

btw, i've noticed there's a lot of canadians on this board! awesome! heheh
 
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sleeper_ said:
btw, i'm from spec-v boards b/c i've been interested in them for quite some time now (1.5 yrs?)

anyhow, according to what i've read, people have gotten 15.1 in the quarter mile stock, some needed some mods to get that time.

as for the 0-60 time. it really hasn't been talked about much, but there was talk that it was actually under 7 for them to have gotten a 15.1 in the 1/4. If it isn't under 7 secs for the spec, then that can easily be explained by the fact that the spec has to shift 2 times to reach the 60mph mark.. which easily accounts for the higher 0-60 time.

as for the ms-p i'm quite excited about getting more news about it from my dealer :D

btw, i've noticed there's a lot of canadians on this board! awesome! heheh

Nahh mannn...... this was discussed long time ago. The specV that your talking about is the yellow Prototype SpecV that was rated at 180Hp had a 6700rpm redline and a 160mph speedometer. they have had said that it will post 0-60#'s in less than 7sec for a fact, but due to the changing somethings didn't go right. Anyways if your friend has ran a 15.1sec 1/4mile Stock then i have no clue how he did it(scratch) but my bro has a specV and he has exhaust and Injen CAI, and only ran 16.01sec, 16.18sec and 15.87sec at fomoso race track here in Bakersfield.
 
lol all i can say is that your bro can't drive.. that must be the case b/c people are geting 15.3's and 15.4's..
this one guy that got a 15.1 had a timeslip..
he got rid of the spare and jack from his trunk.

oh and the reason why 0-60 times can't really be confirmed is that all the peeps are concentrating on the 1/4 mile times on the boards. The 0-60 time is hardly even discussed. I browse 3 sentra related boards, freshalloy.com, b15sentra.net, and thevboard.com. and sometimes automotiveforums.com
 
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