Mazdaspeed's price and Performance specs!!!!

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I have a feeling that when Mada chooses who they want to be Mazdaspeed dealers, there is going to be an agreement or some sort of contract signed that will keep the pricing reasonable at the dealer. Thus making the markup non-exsistent.

I have a feeling Mazda wasn't to happy with dealers had a big markup on the MP3.

 

[fastcat178221]

well the general manager has tolled me this personaly . I do trust him and his staff since I sell them stuff for there MP5's , like MP5 badges, springs, and anything that they want . I sale parts for Mitch from protege5online.com here in San Antonio TX . So he tolled me that there is no markup but there is a dealer hold back which I don't know how much . He also tolled me that other dealers might have a mark up on there MS Pbut we will see .

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[APEXistud]

well the general manager has tolled me this personaly . I do trust him and his staff since I sell them stuff for there MP5's , like MP5 badges, springs, and anything that they want . I sale parts for Mitch from protege5online.com here in San Antonio TX . So he tolled me that there is no markup but there is a dealer hold back which I don't know how much . He also tolled me that other dealers might have a mark up on there MS Pbut we will see .

orange , orange , orange ,

Not trying to be a jerk here, but you spelling told wrong. Just wanted to clear that up. Maybe in Texas you guys won't get mark-up, but I know for damn sure we will here in Cali. Especially in the bay area.

 

[vegasmp3]

I dont see any thing wrong with the new mazda.........Yes it has more goodies than our mp3 but that was evident it was going to happen......THe 0-60 will probably be right a 7secs.....yes it has a turbo but the boost is very low........It still seems slow with a turbo but the pluss is the new mazdaspeed owners will beable to up the boost......Mazda probably didn't want to make it too fast because they are probably worried the car may have too many problems.....They are being concervative......in two years the protege might be fast like a wrx or within a half second of that stock, maybe?????????......

 

[vegasmp3]

Colin I hope you are right because then all the honda and acura owners will now have to respect the new mazdaspeed......Also the release date is soon so they do know how fast the car is 0-60 but they dont want to let us know.........They still cant be trying to tune the car, that stage probably ended 9 months ago or longer........I sure hope it is 0-60 in the 6 sec range.... Apex is right when he compares the spec V that has 10 more horses than the mazdaspeed without a turbo and does 0-60 in low 7, plus the cars weight is very similiar to the mazdaspeed ........
At least it will compete unlike my mp3 in a straight-line.......

 

[odp]

Bit off topic, but don't spec V's run a high 7?

 

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i believe the Spec-V does 0-60 in mid 7's.
In some article i read it said 7.4? This sounds about right considering it has a big displacement engine of 2.5L.

I'm sure that MS-P with it's Garrett T25 Turbo, it should do pretty much the same. IMO, points of second doesn't matter in the real world anyway. Why are we all fussing about the tenth's of a second?

 

[Newf]

anyone else get the feeling that MAzda hasn't released the actual horse power rating because they themselves don't know. Granted, they must know now. But at first, maybe they were playing around with what boost to go with before it getting dangerous......saying it's "approx 170.....maybe 180....maybe 190.....all depends if we can get the turbo going wee wee just right so it don't blow up anything ..... We'll figure out what we can get out of her, and THEN we'll let you know" kinda attitude.

Then again, maybe it's all marketting hype and playing with our minds just creates more interest and popularity. Or, it really is only 170hp at the crank, and knowing that that just doesn't sound impressive on paper, they want to let the car "speak" for itself when it's finally done.

Sorry, but all this "Guessing" about HP, and 0-60 is driving me nuts. We'll know when it's done.

 

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Some info i've heard is definitely pointing towards it making more than the estimated 170, to help it beat out certain VW trubos...Also, looking at about $20,000 sticker.

 

[colin949]

mazdaspeed's price and performance specs!!!!

Well iam pretty sure mazda wanted to see good results with this car, because they have put a lot of work into it, so when it comes out dont be suprised to see it running 6 seconds, because calaway made the car so it would have a good quarter mile time. Iam pretty sure its gunna be 6 seconds though because my mom said that they said the car is gunna go from 0 to 60 in 6 seconds, and that they are gunna advertise it as 6.1 and 6.9 to fake people out. I dunno why they are trying to do that,but i guess that is what they said at the meeting, and it was only like 3 weeks ago so thats why i think its true. She works at the main mazdabuilding in irvine so i think they would know whats up with it, because they are like the main place in the us.
peace out the mazdaspeed is gunna be one sick car

 

[APEXistud]

Re: mazdaspeed's price and performance specs!!!!

Well iam pretty sure mazda wanted to see good results with this car, because they have put a lot of work into it, so when it comes out dont be suprised to see it running 6 seconds, because calaway made the car so it would have a good quarter mile time. Iam pretty sure its gunna be 6 seconds though because my mom said that they said the car is gunna go from 0 to 60 in 6 seconds, and that they are gunna advertise it as 6.1 and 6.9 to fake people out. I dunno why they are trying to do that,but i guess that is what they said at the meeting, and it was only like 3 weeks ago so thats why i think its true. She works at the main mazdabuilding in irvine so i think they would know whats up with it, because they are like the main place in the us.
peace out the mazdaspeed is gunna be one sick car

There's a winner. :bs: . Let's just wait to see, although I highly doubt it will run anywhere in the 6's

 

[tritonheat1]

Re: Re: mazdaspeed's price and performance specs!!!!

There's a winner. :bs: . Let's just wait to see, although I highly doubt it will run anywhere in the 6's

Quit dissing Apexistud, damm he's just trying to let us know what's up. If you don't think the MS-Protege will run anywhere in the 6's to 0-60 that's fine. If you think the MS-protege is gonna run anywhere in the 7's that's fine to let it be. I guess will just have to wait and see but quit hating :mad: Can't we all get along........(lol)

 

[APEXistud]

Im not hating, I'm just thinking realisticly. A 2843 lb vehicle with 170 whp running a 6.5 is not realistic. Just for a reference of why I think this way, look at the 97 Integra Type R which gets 161-165hp & 115-118 lb ft of torque to the wheels nets on average a 6.6-6.8 0-60. Take note that the ITR also has a 2560lb curb weight, that's a 283lb difference. So if the MS-P still manages to rip off anything less than a 7 second 0-60 it will be quite an accomplishment. Of course, I hope that I am completely wrong and the MS-P does do less than 7 seconds. I'm not hattin, I just look at the factual numbers and give an educated guess or estimation.

 

[tritonheat1]

I know bro, i was J/K hehe i just wanted to say we all have our own opinions on what we think, and i do agree on most things you post especially on the Type-R part, but if you think about it.


Acura Integra Type-R:

1.8L 16-VAVLE DOHC VTEC 195HP with only 130lb-fts
Curb weight for a 97 is (2577)lbs.
0-60 6.6sec
1/4mile 14.97sec
Redline 8400rpms

But the Vtec doesn't kick in, untill 5700rpms till 8000rpms and the lb-fts doesn't hit till 7200rpms. So kinda think about that.

Mazdaspeed Protege (MS-P)

2.0L DOHC 16-VAVLE T-25 Garrett Turbochared and intercooled
170HP and 155lb-fts
curb weight (2843)lbs
0-60 6.5-7's (Estimated either way)
1/4mile N/a
Redline 6500rpms

OK we all are looking for power which the MS-P is turbocharged and is way better than VTEC and also it kicks in at 5500rpms(estimated) and we have advantage on torque by like 25lb-fts at 4000-4500rpms. So i do think the MS-P on take off will be quick because don't forget we have (LSD) a new clutch and pressure plate, so by the time your up in the revs it's bye bye vtec cause turbo is spoolin. and don't think b/c the MS-P only has 5-6psi and a small intercooler it won't be in the 6's to 0-60.


IMO, i think the MS-P will do:
0-60 in 6.4-6.9sec
1/4mile 14.9-15.2sec.

that's just me, i'm not saying any of this is true but just my opinion.

 

[slug420]

can someone close this thread or move it to the rumors section?

i get all excited when i see there is a new post in this thread thinking someone has new info.........and then im blue balled when its the same month old discussion over and over again....

 

[tritonheat1]

can someone close this thread or move it to the rumors section?

i get all excited when i see there is a new post in this thread thinking someone has new info.........and then im blue balled when its the same month old discussion over and over again....

hey you, what's your opinion on Specs for the MS-P???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

 

[slug420]

im the first to admit i dont know enough about cars to make any accurate estimates on performance based on the specs that have been released, and even if i was able to do so, i probably wouldnt since everything is "estimated" at this point....

 

[colin949]

In roadand track and motortrend they allready tested the car, and it will be under 7 seconds. IT will say it in the magizines when there out, i think road and tracks allready out, but it will show the car under 7 seconds

 

[colin949]

I dont think anyone knows the top speed yet, i heard it was pretty fast, what do you guys think?

 

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colin949
which road and track and motortrend issue is this? i'd like to get a copy of this and see it on my own.
thanks!