and god forbid if this has a factory lsd.....i can see it already....i just think mazda has bad transmissions after past experiences with my speed....it broke under normal acceleration....oh well......i never realized how good you can make the 6 look....interesting...might be my next car...but this time i will wait for the second year...i am never buying a first year car again...
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blthlt said:
Well...if you are trying to say my habits with driving are bad let me tell you the reason why the things when out...and you can judge then
1st turbo- Wastegate Malfunction
2nd turbo- Replaced because exhaust melted actuator and timing chain cover
(mazda replaced my CRACKED mani and didnt bolt it on properly which broke my midpipe causing it to break at the cat......which eventually wiggled the downpipe free. This caused the exhaust to shoot into the engine bay)
3rd- the only problem i had to date was a bad oil leak, mazda said they didnt clamp down an oil line)
LSD broke because it cannot haul a car or 4 guys under normal acceleration, i am thinking the broken motor mounts were to blame, not my driving. I originally had 50% life left on the clutch but replaced it anyway....
so no....not me....i am just unfortunate...that is why my car is costing mazda more than what the actual warranty is worth....
blthlt said:
no he is saying every protege has its flaws....from the smallest clunk to the whole turbo system ******* up.....everyone enjoys this car, but it just has to many defects.....if this car did not have warranty i would be about 6 grand in debt so you get the idea....it is not that hard...
Hope after modding these they don't have that mazda 3rd gear issue. If the pcm lets you bypass the factory psi after mods i'd be soo jealous! As stated by crossbow and myself in many post...make shure someone autox after breakin so we can see it in action (thumb)
blthlt said:
No, I'm saying i drive my car harder than most people do their own. My tires lasted 18,000 miles and my turbo last 1/2 as long. My rotors were wraped at 5000 miles, turned and re-warped at 8000 miles. The turbo was flawed with a hole in the wastegate the first time and I had to drop it off more recently because of the stupid c-clip on the wastegate came off and I had 0 boost.
MoJoeTCM said:
While my car has the same quirks that are reported on the forum (e.g. notchy shifting, clunk, head unit going crazy, bumper fascia falling off) I haven't had to replace any major parts yet. The bushings have been replaced about 4 times free of charge and the subwoofer has been replaced once. Otherwise, I am on all the stock parts other than the mods listed.
I am looking forward to building up a subtle, black sleeper 6 that is capable of making most people look twice as they see the exhaust smoke and two black strips of rubber on the pavement in front of them....LOL!
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I don't think an MPS 6 will ever be showing an Evo or Sti its taillights. Its not meant too. Even if you dumped thousands into the car, its still really heavy compared to the competition. I'm curious to see as to where the SCCA is going to classify it. I'm guessing D stock.
Sure its got the power, but the weight and poor inital tire/wheel sizing is really going to hurt both its classification, and its performance in stock classes. The lack of front LSD doesn't help much either.
Thats the one thing I don't get about the car. It runs in 100:0 distribution until slippage occurs...why the heck didn't they give it a front LSD???
I also wouldn't get my hopes up too high for the aftermarket. The standard 6 is just getting parts now, and that vehicle has a 140k+ volume of cars per year....were only looking at a max of 5-15k MPS 6's in total. The DFI/CAN system is going to really knock alot of tuners upside the head. They'll be all excited, talk about all the products for the car, then the second they get one, they'll just drop off the face of the earth.
Can disables all the standard tuner tricks. Nothing in their arsenal works. That of course won't mean that there won't be parts...just don't expect them in the first 6-12 months of ownership.
The car is dying to be tuned though...with power drop off at 5500 rpm (redline is at 6700), its obvious mazda is following the EPA2 guideline of drowing the cats in fuel, and dialing back boost in the upper rev range. Get rid of that stupid TMIC too and consumer tires/wheels. 215/45/18 on 18x7 on a 3650 lb car barely meets the required load rating.
Sure its got the power, but the weight and poor inital tire/wheel sizing is really going to hurt both its classification, and its performance in stock classes. The lack of front LSD doesn't help much either.
Thats the one thing I don't get about the car. It runs in 100:0 distribution until slippage occurs...why the heck didn't they give it a front LSD???
I also wouldn't get my hopes up too high for the aftermarket. The standard 6 is just getting parts now, and that vehicle has a 140k+ volume of cars per year....were only looking at a max of 5-15k MPS 6's in total. The DFI/CAN system is going to really knock alot of tuners upside the head. They'll be all excited, talk about all the products for the car, then the second they get one, they'll just drop off the face of the earth.
Can disables all the standard tuner tricks. Nothing in their arsenal works. That of course won't mean that there won't be parts...just don't expect them in the first 6-12 months of ownership.
The car is dying to be tuned though...with power drop off at 5500 rpm (redline is at 6700), its obvious mazda is following the EPA2 guideline of drowing the cats in fuel, and dialing back boost in the upper rev range. Get rid of that stupid TMIC too and consumer tires/wheels. 215/45/18 on 18x7 on a 3650 lb car barely meets the required load rating.
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Yup..and thats happened to some 6 owners. Destroyed cats at relatively low mileage.
Regardless, the 3/6/8 all dump excess fuel at upper rpms. The 6's A/F ratio at 6500 rpm is about 9.7:1.
It actually drops below 10 at 5500 rpm. I bet the MPS 6 is doing the exact same thing, and dropping boost, which explains the sudden drop in power after 5500.
Regardless, the 3/6/8 all dump excess fuel at upper rpms. The 6's A/F ratio at 6500 rpm is about 9.7:1.
It actually drops below 10 at 5500 rpm. I bet the MPS 6 is doing the exact same thing, and dropping boost, which explains the sudden drop in power after 5500.
Will the megasquirt work in a DFI application? DFI is a whole new can of worms to deal with.
The spring allotment in the rear looks to be the same...hopefully you'll be able to use standard springs...however the MPS 6 springs might have a higher rate then most of the aftermarket...so you'd be lowering while decreasing spring rate...increasing your body roll substaintally. There are't any sways for the MPS 6, because of the rear differential. (They have to bend up and over, so none of the 6 sways will work for the rear).
Best bet would be to wait for a full coilover solution that had some decent rates.
The spring allotment in the rear looks to be the same...hopefully you'll be able to use standard springs...however the MPS 6 springs might have a higher rate then most of the aftermarket...so you'd be lowering while decreasing spring rate...increasing your body roll substaintally. There are't any sways for the MPS 6, because of the rear differential. (They have to bend up and over, so none of the 6 sways will work for the rear).
Best bet would be to wait for a full coilover solution that had some decent rates.
