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[GJ-Molestor]

yokohamas are known to cause a lot of tire noise.

however, they are well tuned to the chassis and offer the best performance in a mazda.

try michellin if you want a quiet tire.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

yokohamas are known to cause a lot of tire noise.

however, they are well tuned to the chassis and offer the best performance in a mazda.

try michellin if you want a quiet tire.

Huh? (scratch)

Yokohama Geolandars just are not rated well at all. Just look at Tire Rack. They are crappy tires.

 

[GJ-Molestor]

Huh? (scratch)

Yokohama Geolandars just are not rated well at all. Just look at Tire Rack. They are crappy tires.

Right sorry, I forgot that I'm in the cx-5 section. My Mazda 6 came with advan a83a tires from the factory which got pretty poor reviews... because they didn't perform well in the snow or ice. You can't expect a tire that performs well in the dry and wet to have traction in snow... it's a paradox. I saw nothing wrong with the tires and liked them a lot. However I would not buy them again because it's just too expensive for the otherwise solid performance we got from them.

If you have a set of winter tires or have a mild winter, I'd recommend looking at the higher performance Yokohama tires, not that geolander crap. We have avid envigors right now and it is a good tire.

Like I said before, Mazda is well tuned to the good performing Yokohama tires. They work brilliantly together, you Just need to look at the correct tires. They are absolutely brilliant in rain, extremely good grip and performance over smooth pavement and the steering feel is very precise. Communicative and grippy tire. (Again, talking about the performance tires, not the geolander crap)

 

[ColoradoDriver]

Right sorry, I forgot that I'm in the cx-5 section. My Mazda 6 came with advan a83a tires from the factory which got pretty poor reviews... because they didn't perform well in the snow or ice. You can't expect a tire that performs well in the dry and wet to have traction in snow... it's a paradox. I saw nothing wrong with the tires and liked them a lot. However I would not buy them again because it's just too expensive for the otherwise solid performance we got from them.

If you have a set of winter tires or have a mild winter, I'd recommend looking at the higher performance Yokohama tires, not that geolander crap. We have avid envigors right now and it is a good tire.

Like I said before, Mazda is well tuned to the good performing Yokohama tires. They work brilliantly together, you Just need to look at the correct tires. They are absolutely brilliant in rain, extremely good grip and performance over smooth pavement and the steering feel is very precise. Communicative and grippy tire. (Again, talking about the performance tires, not the geolander crap)

Gotcha.

Well I replaced my all-season Geolandars with all-season Michelins and my snow/winter driving improved considerably.

For the bolded, why Yokohamas and not others? What's the source for this statement?

 

[finch204]

So has OP gone and check his tire pressure?

 

[GJ-Molestor]

Gotcha.

Well I replaced my all-season Geolandars with all-season Michelins and my snow/winter driving improved considerably.

For the bolded, why Yokohamas and not others? What's the source for this statement?

If you care about Summer performance, it's best to have a set of good summer/ high performance all seasons and then dedicated snow tires on a different set of rims.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

If you care about Summer performance, it's best to have a set of good summer/ high performance all seasons and then dedicated snow tires on a different set of rims.

I live in Denver. No point for dedicated winter set here.

But I see what you mean, and if I lived elsewhere, would totally agree.

 

[yrwei52]

Does the 2017 GT display the tire pressures ANYWHERE on the car or in the info settings? I can't find anything.

It should be able to with new direct-read TPMS setup but for some reason Mazda had decided not to do it.

Post Tire Pressure Sensor for 2017 CX-5 - $91.74 EACH!!!

 

[J.R.]

(iagree). Expansion joints are painful

*thunk-thunk, thunk-thunk...*

 

[yrwei52]

Huh? (scratch)

Yokohama Geolandars just are not rated well at all. Just look at Tire Rack. They are crappy tires.

Yep this OE Yokohama Geolandar G91A 225/65R17 100H tire is specially made for Mazda as the regular one carries 101H load index. The price is very impressive at $210.85 each but the regular Geolandar G91A costs only $148.10. Based on "280 B A" UTQG it's definitely not a good tire, not to mention it has poor customer reviews at Tire Rack. It'd be crazy to get such set of OE tires again with that kind of price!

 

[craigo]

Exactly! Which is why I complain to corporate when it has happened to me.

The dealership gets paid/reimbursed BY MAZDA for the PDI (Pre-Delivery Inspection). If they are not completing this PDI, they are cheating MAZDA.

The argument could be made it's even unsafe. The contact patch on an overinflated tire is too small. Our 3's tires would squeal during cornering at moderate speed on dry pavement - my second clue that the tire was the wrong pressure, after the noise.

 

[yrwei52]

If you care about Summer performance, it's best to have a set of good summer/ high performance all seasons and then dedicated snow tires on a different set of rims.

This's not going to be an easy decision for 2017 CX-5 owners. Either they have to get those expensive tire pressure sensors for additional $368, or they have to cut a piece of black electrical tape and tape it over TPMS warning light! (whistle)

 

[yrwei52]

The argument could be made it's even unsafe. The contact patch on an overinflated tire is too small. Our 3's tires would squeal during cornering at moderate speed on dry pavement - my second clue that the tire was the wrong pressure, after the noise.

It's really unsafe with said 45 psi on those 17" Yokohama Geolandar G91A tires which are rated at 44 psi maximum inflation pressure.

 

[Xeler8ing]

Tire pressure is likely way too high. They do this from the factory for shipping over and the dealer tends to not then lower it to the correct pressure.

The stock Yokohama Geolandar tires suck in my opinion and were one of the first things I switched out. My Michelin were much quieter (they've gotten a little louder since).

As for road noise, not sure what to say. CX-5 is one of the most improved and one of the best when it comes to noise.

I believe this was the graphic 7eregrine was referring to (from ArsTechnica):

I remember this graph. Also confirmed my suspicions that the CX-5 is the second most quiet Mazda. The CX-9 started with a clean slate hence were able to add lots of sound deadening. The 2017 CX-5 platform is pretty much the same as Gen 1, so they could only do so much but still they have done alot

 

[7eregrine]

I live in Denver. No point for dedicated winter set here.

But I see what you mean, and if I lived elsewhere, would totally agree.

Average 64 inches of snow. And you don't need?

 

[Xeler8ing]

Can't remember if there is a similar graph for rear passengers (scratch)

 

[Monterra]

We get less than that on avg and I felt the 19s may be a bit too fragile (and definitely not cheap) so I did spring for dedicated winters on 17s..but depending on your job, your roads, your winter trips, etc a good all season would be generally adequate (not optimal- but adequate) I got away ok w/goodyear tripletreds on my old CRV..for example.

 

[ColoradoDriver]

Average 64 inches of snow. And you don't need?

This is a secret. Don't tell anyone wanting to move here.

But....

Winter here is not a constant snow winterland from November to April. It's one day it snows 2 feet (though in Denver any high amount of accumulation is kinda rare), the next day it spends melting, and the day after that it's 70 degrees clear blue sky and you wouldn't even know it snowed 2 days before. Which then teeters in that nice 40-70 degree whether (depending on month) until the next snowstorm which could be days/weeks/months away. I mean this year we got s*** for snow really. It was nothing. There are days in January where you can wear shorts and a t-shirt if you really wanted to...

So no, really do not need them at all.

If I still lived up in the mountains, then sure. But just in Denver? Nope. My AWD/All seasons have handled winter here just fine. Been very impressed with my CX-5 in blizzards/snowstorms.

 

[dseag2]

I'm actually amazed at the OP's statement. My first test drive of the CX-5 was coming from my '17 Audi A4, which is one of the quietest cars I've driven. I thought the CX-5 was as quiet, if not quieter, than the A4. After several months of ownership I haven't changed my opinion. I actually find I can turn the Bose system to a normal volume level and still hold a conversation with a passenger. The car is that quiet and the sound system is that good.

 

[GJ-Molestor]

This is a secret. Don't tell anyone wanting to move here.

But....

Winter here is not a constant snow winterland from November to April. It's one day it snows 2 feet (though in Denver any high amount of accumulation is kinda rare), the next day it spends melting, and the day after that it's 70 degrees clear blue sky and you wouldn't even know it snowed 2 days before. Which then teeters in that nice 40-70 degree whether (depending on month) until the next snowstorm which could be days/weeks/months away. I mean this year we got s*** for snow really. It was nothing. There are days in January where you can wear shorts and a t-shirt if you really wanted to...

So no, really do not need them at all.

If I still lived up in the mountains, then sure. But just in Denver? Nope. My AWD/All seasons have handled winter here just fine. Been very impressed with my CX-5 in blizzards/snowstorms.

This is very true. It's the exact same story here in Toronto. We don't get much snow at all, but when it does snow it's either mild, a ton of snow, or some sort of slushy/icy f*ck-fest and just about anything in between.

My daily is the 528i, which is RWD (a rarity here in Toronto) and I had tons of fun drifting about this winter. The car actually behaved fantastic in the snow. very predictable drifts, good stopping power, excellent steering and better traction then FWD off the line. It was tons of fun, yet quite capable at the same time.

It's really not all unicorns and rainbows though. This thing was a god damn death trap in the snow with all-seasons tires. It was slide all over the place and it literally would not stop. A light turned red on me down an incline and a Mazda (funny enough) changed lanes to take the open spot in front of me. It was either I rear-end a Mazda or cut into the left-turn Lane and run the red. Needless to say, I bought a set of winter tires off the classifieds the next day...