Looking at 2014-2015s, would like some help

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CX-5
Hi guys. I have my vehicle search down to a CX-5 and a CR-V. However I am leaning heavily to the CX-5 due to the (imo) superior aesthetics and the driving experience which I hear so much about.

I am trying to stay under $20k and sub 45k miles in order to still have 1-2 years of driving left on the 60k powertrain warranty and this appears to put me in the range of 2014-2015s.

I will be test driving some soon and am curious as to what I should be on the lookout for for these years other than the usual clean vehicle history and good maintenance records. Perhaps there are some known problems/issues which I should be aware of?

I'm looking forward to joining the CX-5 party and I'd very much appreciate your help!
 
Hi guys. I have my vehicle search down to a CX-5 and a CR-V. However I am leaning heavily to the CX-5 due to the (imo) superior aesthetics and the driving experience which I hear so much about.

I am trying to stay under $20k and sub 45k miles in order to still have 1-2 years of driving left on the 60k powertrain warranty and this appears to put me in the range of 2014-2015s.

I will be test driving some soon and am curious as to what I should be on the lookout for for these years other than the usual clean vehicle history and good maintenance records. Perhaps there are some known problems/issues which I should be aware of?

I'm looking forward to joining the CX-5 party and I'd very much appreciate your help!

Get an extended warranty through your credit union. Mine is bumper-to-bumper, added $20/mo to the payment, and is 6/100K. Considering what a water pump cost ($800 on my Jeep Grand Cherokee), what an A/C compressor cost, what all those little "might or might not die..." things cost, I consider it money well spent! I pay hundreds of dollars for personal insurance a month, and have never had to spend more than $2700 at a go in any medical situation, so I find it smart money in comparison!

Now, I'd get a 2015. Always get the newest you can afford. A Touring 2015 with 30-40K miles should retail for around $20K, give/take. 2.5L AWD.

The CR-V looks terrible. You may not end up with a CX-5, but I couldn't stomach the CR-V.
 
Forget the extra $$ for that warranty as the CXs are very, very reliable.
Consumer Reports recommends taking the money you would have spent on the warranty, putting in a savings account, and if the need arises using it to cover uncovered costs.
Which you probably will not need so you would have even more $$ to put down when you buy another car.

The poster advocating for itwill probably respond with some wild hypothetical, unsupported scary story about a catastrophic (pick one) engine, tranny, electronic failure but in reality they are few and far between.
And there will be no links to support whatever nonsense he may throw down.
If you don't subscribe to America,s leading consumer magazine, it is a wise investment.

To sum up, the advice to waste $$ on a warranty is from a member who doesn't think CR is a reputable source so you should be skeptical of his recommendation.
 
From Consumer Reports:

"The F&I representative will almost surely try to sell you an extended warranty or service plan.
Most of the time, these plans are a losing bet.
A survey conducted by the Consumer Reports National Research Center in late 2013 proves this point.
We polled 12,000 owners of vehicles built during model years 2006 to 2010 that had been covered by extended service plans.
Fifty-five percent of owners who purchased an extended warranty hadnt used it for repairs during the lifetime of the policy, even though the average price paid for the coverage was just over $1,200."

"On average, those who did use it spent hundreds more for the coverage than they saved in repair costs.
Among survey participants who used their policy, the average out-of-pocket savings n repairs covered by extended warranties for all brands was $837.
Based on a $1,214 average initial cost, that works out to a net loss of more than $375."

"Factoring those who didnt use their policy, total average savings was zero. And that may have something to do with why satisfaction with auto extended warranties is among the lowest of all products and services surveyed by Consumer Reports, and why less than a quarter of respondents said they would get it again.
Available for both new and used vehicles, extended warranties are normally pitched as extra security for car buyers, reducing the risk of expensive repairs that might not be covered by the factory warranty. Indeed, peace of mind was the most common reason given by our survey respondents for purchasing the coverage, and for many that may be a sufficient motive."

"Many types of plans are offered, both through dealerships and from other sources, such as auto clubs and insurance companies. And most extended warranty service purveyors offer more than one plan, with everything from comprehensive bumper-to-bumper coverage to more targeted protection for the powertrain only or specific components. Plans can also vary in duration, with most providing three to five years of coverage."

"Our survey results indicated that costs are similar regardless of from where the coverage is purchased; there was no more than about a $100 difference between factory and third-party programs.
Of those who purchased an extended warranty, 86 percent did so at the same time they bought their car.
One of the reasons to do this is for the convenience of rolling the cost into the car loan. It costs more money in the long run, however, because you have to pay interest on the warrantys fee."

"Survey respondents who purchased automaker backed coverage through a dealership were substantially more satisfied with the policy than those who purchased coverage from a third party, with 53 percent and 41 percent, respectively, saying they were highly satisfied. But even those customers were not much more likely to buy such coverage again. In fact, less than 30 percent of all respondents who purchased an extended warranty said they would definitely do so."

So unobtinium's advice to go with a credit union makes no sense.
 
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From Consumer Reports:

"The F&I representative will almost surely try to sell you an extended warranty or service plan.
Most of the time, these plans are a losing bet.
A survey conducted by the Consumer Reports National Research Center in late 2013 proves this point.
We polled 12,000 owners of vehicles built during model years 2006 to 2010 that had been covered by extended service plans.
Fifty-five percent of owners who purchased an extended warranty hadn’t used it for repairs during the lifetime of the policy, even though the average price paid for the coverage was just over $1,200."

"On average, those who did use it spent hundreds more for the coverage than they saved in repair costs.
Among survey participants who used their policy, the average out-of-pocket savings n repairs covered by extended warranties for all brands was $837.
Based on a $1,214 average initial cost, that works out to a net loss of more than $375."

"Factoring those who didn’t use their policy, total average savings was zero. And that may have something to do with why satisfaction with auto extended warranties is among the lowest of all products and services surveyed by Consumer Reports, and why less than a quarter of respondents said they would get it again.
Available for both new and used vehicles, extended warranties are normally pitched as extra security for car buyers, reducing the risk of expensive repairs that might not be covered by the factory warranty. Indeed, peace of mind was the most common reason given by our survey respondents for purchasing the coverage, and for many that may be a sufficient motive."

"Many types of plans are offered, both through dealerships and from other sources, such as auto clubs and insurance companies. And most extended warranty service purveyors offer more than one plan, with everything from comprehensive bumper-to-bumper coverage to more targeted protection for the powertrain only or specific components. Plans can also vary in duration, with most providing three to five years of coverage."

"Our survey results indicated that costs are similar regardless of from where the coverage is purchased; there was no more than about a $100 difference between factory and third-party programs.
Of those who purchased an extended warranty, 86 percent did so at the same time they bought their car.
One of the reasons to do this is for the convenience of rolling the cost into the car loan. It costs more money in the long run, however, because you have to pay interest on the warranty’s fee."

"Survey respondents who purchased automaker backed coverage through a dealership were substantially more satisfied with the policy than those who purchased coverage from a third party, with 53 percent and 41 percent, respectively, saying they were highly satisfied. But even those customers were not much more likely to buy such coverage again. In fact, less than 30 percent of all respondents who purchased an extended warranty said they would definitely do so."

So unobtinium's advice to go with a credit union makes no sense.

Financed through the dealer at 4.X%
Credit union at less than 3%.
The warranty was pretty much "free", given that.
But you do what works best for you.

Oh, I've already had $2800ish done under warranty, FYI. But you do what you want, because obviously there are tons of CX-5's with 100K miles on them so we know they all hold up fine to triple digits. I mean, none of them have had transmissions or anything like that fail...
 
Thanks for the input guys. Much appreciated.

How high of mileage on a used CX-5 would you go and still feel comfortable?

Noone really knows when they die. I would personally stay under 60k miles, because EVERYONE has a 60K mile powertrain warranty, which means they are likely to take it in to be maintained as soon as/if anything is wrong.
 
Thanks for the input guys. Much appreciated.

How high of mileage on a used CX-5 would you go and still feel comfortable?

That's tricky.
Request the service records, contact info for previous owner, and do research via Car Fax.
An inspection by a trusted mechanic is an excellent strategy.
I checked Consumer Reports for "used cars to avoid" but there are very few post-Ford Mazdas on it.
The '13', 14', and '15 CX 5s are not on it.
Good luck and keep us posted.
 
Hi guys. I have my vehicle search down to a CX-5 and a CR-V. However I am leaning heavily to the CX-5 due to the (imo) superior aesthetics and the driving experience which I hear so much about.

I am trying to stay under $20k and sub 45k miles in order to still have 1-2 years of driving left on the 60k powertrain warranty and this appears to put me in the range of 2014-2015s.

I will be test driving some soon and am curious as to what I should be on the lookout for for these years other than the usual clean vehicle history and good maintenance records. Perhaps there are some known problems/issues which I should be aware of?

I'm looking forward to joining the CX-5 party and I'd very much appreciate your help!

Start your search with certified used Mazdas. They come with 7-Year / 100,000 Mile Powertrain Limited Warranty and 1 year bumper to bumper warranty. Go from there.
 
Hi guys. I have my vehicle search down to a CX-5 and a CR-V. However I am leaning heavily to the CX-5 due to the (imo) superior aesthetics and the driving experience which I hear so much about.

I am trying to stay under $20k and sub 45k miles in order to still have 1-2 years of driving left on the 60k powertrain warranty and this appears to put me in the range of 2014-2015s.

I will be test driving some soon and am curious as to what I should be on the lookout for for these years other than the usual clean vehicle history and good maintenance records. Perhaps there are some known problems/issues which I should be aware of?

I'm looking forward to joining the CX-5 party and I'd very much appreciate your help!

Are you financing? If so, I would recommend considering new vehicles as well. Sure, depreciation hits the moment you drive off the lot. However, this is a moot point if you own the vehicle for a long time and also secure a great interest rate.

Used cars often carry a higher interest rate, and interest costs increase substantially as you jump the percentages. Personally, I'd rather spend the extra $5k-$6k and finance a brand new CX-5 at 0.9% for 63 months if your credit can secure that rate. The total amount paid in interest will be negligible (~$700 total over 63 months). This is exactly what I did. I also got the extended warranty since they reduced the cost to around $900 and cut the cost for gap insurance by almost 2/3. Toss in about $1000 in rebates and above market value for my trade, and I was sold.
 
Are you financing? If so, I would recommend considering new vehicles as well. Sure, depreciation hits the moment you drive off the lot. However, this is a moot point if you own the vehicle for a long time and also secure a great interest rate.

Used cars often carry a higher interest rate, and interest costs increase substantially as you jump the percentages. Personally, I'd rather spend the extra $5k-$6k and finance a brand new CX-5 at 0.9% for 63 months if your credit can secure that rate. The total amount paid in interest will be negligible (~$700 total over 63 months). This is exactly what I did. I also got the extended warranty since they reduced the cost to around $900 and cut the cost for gap insurance by almost 2/3. Toss in about $1000 in rebates and above market value for my trade, and I was sold.

Thanks for your help. Actually I want to pay cash, but instead I will be financing half (10-12k) in order to add an installment loan to my credit history. Right now I don't have any which can later affect my credit score, which I closely look after.

It's tempting for me to pay the additional 5-6k but I'd really prefer to eliminate the car payment in a year or 2, which would also eliminate a lot of the interest (an aside from the numbers game, its also a personal thing to eliminate the debt as fast as possible).

This leads my budget to about 20k, which from my quick searching (and seeing ASKING prices), puts me in the neighborhood of 2014-15s with 30-45k miles.
 
Thanks for your help. Actually I want to pay cash, but instead I will be financing half (10-12k) in order to add an installment loan to my credit history. Right now I don't have any which can later affect my credit score, which I closely look after.

It's tempting for me to pay the additional 5-6k but I'd really prefer to eliminate the car payment in a year or 2, which would also eliminate a lot of the interest (an aside from the numbers game, its also a personal thing to eliminate the debt as fast as possible).

This leads my budget to about 20k, which from my quick searching (and seeing ASKING prices), puts me in the neighborhood of 2014-15s with 30-45k miles.

That's not a bad plan. Having a thick file as far as credit history is concerned is a good thing! Personally, I won't be paying off my loan early since the interest cost of 0.9% over 60 months is almost nonexistent. Car payments may seem like an annoyance and something to prevent at first, but they're not bad if you approach debt strategically. They are dangerous, though, if you anticipate uncertainty with the ability to fulfill your payment obligations.

I could have paid for my CX-5 in cash, but I decided to finance since I can make the $25k work more for me elsewhere (investments, for example). Once cash is spent, it's gone and applied to an "asset" that will only depreciate in value and incur costs. Financing is similar, but you don't incur the opportunity cost of not being able to utilize your money elsewhere.

I understand that this isn't a thread about financing and got a little off-topic here. Just wanted to throw out that option based on experience (9+ installment loans and 24+ total accounts on my credit history with a 810+ score).

Good luck on your hunt for a CX-5! They truly are great vehicles.
 
I think mileage has become almost irreverent. It seems to be more about age then mileage. When my father was buying cars in the 50s and 60s everyone knew that you sold at 60,000 I was broke back then so I bought them at 60K. At one point In the 90s I had two cars that were the same make model and age. one had 60K the other 270K. I realized I was having the same maintenance issues with both of them.

One of the best cars I owned was driven by a guy that had a 180 mile commute 5 days a week. I bought it at 100K at 250 K it rusted out, I puled the engine and transmission and put it in another car and went over 300K.

In a used car, I look for one with high mileage in a short time either from a long commute or because it was driven for a living (Traveling salesman ETC.) This tends to save me a lot of money but not hurt reliability.
 

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