loads of camdriven fuel pump info!

BoostedSpd6 said:
im so glad im waiting to buy my turbo and EMS till next spring by then hopefully the fuel problem wil be figured out too..this is just amazing. i was on here the night he posted the thread and since then im am amazed at how much this has gotten attention and how much weve learned in just these few days..and lilguy since u started this and gave us this incredible info, ur ******* awesome.(bowdown).. jordan i wish u the best of luck with APR.
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haha. well thank you.

you didnt realize this, but everytime someone opens this thread i get a quarter. i'll have more positive info posted up by the morning no doubt!

haltech and I are teaming up on this project with Jordan and Josh Adams. I realize they're too busy to sit on the computer and research cause they're out in the shop custom fabricating stuff all the time! mad props to them and the amazing standback units that will work with the new pump when we hunt down a solution!
 
haha well itll take a while but ull be rich if thats the case. and good luck to u all who are working and teaming up to solve this issue and i cant wait to see the results..
 
With all the other manufacturers who are now implementing DISI technology I am amazed that someone didn't catch on to this sooner. Great stuff.

R
 
SuperStretch18 said:
You guys got my attention. Sub for updates...
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did you say updates????????

direct from mazda... this helps us graphically and with information that we know we can rely on.... CHECK IT. mannnnnn i'm kinda upset, i should be charging for this information. i could conceal it all and get CP-E to buy it from me :)

http://www.3dluvr.com/crossbow/vir/speed6.pdf

looks like the pdf i found tells us:

how to relieve pressure to remove the pump (pg 13)
show us a detailed real life picture of the pump and a diagram on how it operates (pg 14)
show us tech answers 101 on all sorts of engine symptoms (pg 26)
explains ms6 AWD system in detail (pg 34)
diagrams of Tochigi-Fuji LSD (pg 41-pg 43)
brakes....
electronics....
body construction....

this is pretty much the breakdown of the mazdaspeed6 and the DISI drivetrain.

EDIT: THIS MAY NOT HELP US, BUT MAYBE IT WILL??????

High Pressure Fuel Pump
The PCM maintains pressure by monitoring the fuel rail pressure sensor
Pressure is modifi ed by opening the spill control solenoid



send your checks of 25$ for each download to:

103D bost hall,
stillwater, ok 74077.

i also accept paypal: mjoantr@okstate.edu

thanks!





seriously though... here's whatelse i found.

another thread against the FSI fuel pump/cut issues

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3015991



this is all i could find tonight, but i'm never done researching this stuff. i love being the founder of all of this.
 
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Bitchen! Im checking it out. Just as i suspect.. High Pressure pump in the tank, so more than likely, its a SVT Focus variant since its 60-71 PSI.

I wonder if we can trick that high pressure sensor on the high pressure fuel rail to increase volume... ill study this tonight and see what i come up with. (lick)
 
Haltech said:
Bitchen! Im checking it out. Just as i suspect.. High Pressure pump in the tank, so more than likely, its a SVT Focus variant since its 60-71 PSI.

I wonder if we can trick that high pressure sensor on the high pressure fuel rail to increase volume... ill study this tonight and see what i come up with. (lick)
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funny how you and i are thinking IDENTICALLY.

i instantly thought of the MAP sensor trick ATP created with the intake manifold pressure.

i'm sure someone could create some sort of hack/trick.


now for bosch pump info:

http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_107830/article.html


this link says bosch is responsible for direct injection in the volkswagens?

http://www.prnewswire.com/cgi-bin/stories.pl?ACCT=104&STORY=/www/story/03-24-2005/0003246773&EDATE=

pontiac solstice (pg 9-10) uses bosch's system:

http://www.bosch.us/content/language1/downloads/BINA07.pdf
 
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very good find u guys.. i noticed the pump wasent different.. as in new like design wise when i took i out and replaced it but with all this new info i might put it back in if that hack becomes a reality, also i wonder if the hack would work on the walbro since u guys are just talking about the sensor being tricked or hacked.
 
BoostedSpd6 said:
very good find u guys.. i noticed the pump wasent different.. as in new like design wise when i took i out and replaced it but with all this new info i might put it back in if that hack becomes a reality, also i wonder if the hack would work on the walbro since u guys are just talking about the sensor being tricked or hacked.
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I hope that Walbro you installed is infact, variable high pressure 60-71 PSI or youre going to be asking for problems as you increase power.

I think our pumps can be installed without dropping the tank but its a moot point now since that isnt the source of our problem.

When my diagnostic software arrives, ill datalog those sensors on the fuel rail and see whats going on.
 
Haltech said:
Bitchen! Im checking it out. Just as i suspect.. High Pressure pump in the tank, so more than likely, its a SVT Focus variant since its 60-71 PSI.

I wonder if we can trick that high pressure sensor on the high pressure fuel rail to increase volume... ill study this tonight and see what i come up with. (lick)
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Uh, high pressure pump is on the engine block. The low pressure pump is in the tank. The pump in the tank is generally at a constant pressure, but it varies the volume.
 
mrlilguy157 said:
did you say updates????????

direct from mazda... this helps us graphically and with information that we know we can rely on.... CHECK IT. mannnnnn i'm kinda upset, i should be charging for this information. i could conceal it all and get CP-E to buy it from me :)

http://www.3dluvr.com/crossbow/vir/speed6.pdf

looks like the pdf i found tells us:

how to relieve pressure to remove the pump (pg 13)
show us a detailed real life picture of the pump and a diagram on how it operates (pg 14)
show us tech answers 101 on all sorts of engine symptoms (pg 26)
explains ms6 AWD system in detail (pg 34)
diagrams of Tochigi-Fuji LSD (pg 41-pg 43)
brakes....
electronics....
body construction....

this is pretty much the breakdown of the mazdaspeed6 and the DISI drivetrain.

EDIT: THIS MAY NOT HELP US, BUT MAYBE IT WILL??????

High Pressure Fuel Pump
The PCM maintains pressure by monitoring the fuel rail pressure sensor
Pressure is modifi ed by opening the spill control solenoid



send your checks of 25$ for each download to:

103D bost hall,
stillwater, ok 74077.

i also accept paypal: mjoantr@okstate.edu

thanks!





seriously though... here's whatelse i found.

another thread against the FSI fuel pump/cut issues

http://forums.vwvortex.com/zerothread?id=3015991



this is all i could find tonight, but i'm never done researching this stuff. i love being the founder of all of this.
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Subbing for updates as well! An that last pdf was great!

-C
 
Chris-BE said:
Uh, high pressure pump is on the engine block. The low pressure pump is in the tank. The pump in the tank is generally at a constant pressure, but it varies the volume.
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I still refer to the intank as HIGH pressure because its at 60 PSI to 71 VARIABLE.. I refer to the high pressure pump in the engine as the DISI pump.
 
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