Linux 3D Desktop (Vista can go to hell)

smo0f · Nov 20, 2006

jmv said:
okay, and the problems start. It says that i can just restart my computer with the ubuntu image disc in the drive to run the demo, but that doesn't work. Do i need to go to a bios menu and tell it to boot from the CD??

obviously heh

jmv · Nov 20, 2006

smo0f said:
obviously heh

okay, well maybe i'm too dumb for linux, but i'm stubborn so i'll prolly just keep asking questions till i learn.

I thought i would find the option for 'boot from disc' under the F8 menu when BIOS is starting, but that just brings up a screen asking which OS i want to run (windows is the only option), and under the advanced options it just gives me things like starting in safe mode and all that. Where can i tell it to boot from the ubuntu CD?

smo0f · Nov 20, 2006

okay, F8 doesn't take you to the bios setup, that takes you into the windows bootup menu. you want to be either hitting f2 or del, depending on what computer you have. when you first boot up, on the first screen you get, it should say 'hit --- to enter setup'. that's the button you want to hit

Shadow102 · Nov 20, 2006

jmv said:
okay, well maybe i'm too dumb for linux, but i'm stubborn so i'll prolly just keep asking questions till i learn.

I thought i would find the option for 'boot from disc' under the F8 menu when BIOS is starting, but that just brings up a screen asking which OS i want to run (windows is the only option), and under the advanced options it just gives me things like starting in safe mode and all that. Where can i tell it to boot from the ubuntu CD?

have fun its going to take alot of stubborness. I am working on getting mine installed and have run into two problems thus far. One is solvable i believe the other...well i am not so sure yet but if i cant get my wireless internet card to work i am sticking with windows.

smo0f · Nov 20, 2006

who makes your wireless card?

wicked · Nov 20, 2006

so,if it doesn't handle widows games well,what games should I use?

jmv · Nov 20, 2006

well i got it started!! yay. I even got my internet working, i was a little worried about that due to the fact that my school server requires you use Cisco clean access agent in order to get on.

Next question: what do i do about video card drivers?? I don't think the regular forceware drivers for nvidia cards will work with linux, will they?? I don't want to f up the system by having multiple drivers installed, but i'm already missing my digital vibrance settings.

In general how should drivers be handled, can you just install both sets and it'll pick the right ones based on which OS you start?? Cuz i want to load my mouse drivers as well. (they may not even make linux drivers though....)

Shadow102 · Nov 20, 2006

smo0f said:
who makes your wireless card?

i have a linksys wireless G card. I have to install ndiswrapper in order to use the windows driver for the card but there lies my problem. I am having trouble getting it installed every time i run the make install command it starts installing it but then runs an error toward the end.

The other problem i am running into is because of my stupid HP. When they ship the computer to you the allocate 4gig of the HD to a seperate partition that has all your "boot disk" and windows install on it. Well i erased this partition and unfortunatly ubuntu installed itself there and because of the way that partition is setup i am unable to see not only the rest of that drive but i cannot see the other HD i have on the system. I am thinking of switching the drives between master and slave and install ubuntu on the smaller drive and seeing if that fixes it.

jmv · Nov 20, 2006

i seem to have somehow frozen just the menu portions.... the computer isn't locked up, but when i click on any menu options it won't do anything and i can't figure out how to turn the thing off!!!

smo0f · Nov 20, 2006

okay. you've basically reached the step where you can't ask every single minor question here. http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy is a great resource which has a lot of stuff to get you started and then some. and if there are problems or it's more technical, you can go to ubuntuforums.org.

jmv said:
well i got it started!! yay. I even got my internet working, i was a little worried about that due to the fact that my school server requires you use Cisco clean access agent in order to get on.

Next question: what do i do about video card drivers?? I don't think the regular forceware drivers for nvidia cards will work with linux, will they?? I don't want to f up the system by having multiple drivers installed, but i'm already missing my digital vibrance settings.

In general how should drivers be handled, can you just install both sets and it'll pick the right ones based on which OS you start?? Cuz i want to load my mouse drivers as well. (they may not even make linux drivers though....)

smo0f · Nov 20, 2006

you guys are failing to utilize one of the greatest methods of installing and removing applications in linux, more specifically ubuntu. you need to start using synaptics, which uses aptitude/apt-get. to find more info about it go here http://www.debianadmin.com/simple-package-management-with-synaptic-package-manager-in-ubuntu.html.
The reason why your install is most likely failing is either because you are not running make install as root, (make install as opposed to sudo make install) or you are lacking certain dependencies. using synaptic eliminates either of these problems.

as far as your harddrive issue, you need to mount the harddrive in order for you to see it. read http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Windows for more info. like i said above, ubuntuguide is a great resources to answer most of your questions. you guys can't just jump into this expecting everything to be simple.

Shadow102 said:
i have a linksys wireless G card. I have to install ndiswrapper in order to use the windows driver for the card but there lies my problem. I am having trouble getting it installed every time i run the make install command it starts installing it but then runs an error toward the end.

The other problem i am running into is because of my stupid HP. When they ship the computer to you the allocate 4gig of the HD to a seperate partition that has all your "boot disk" and windows install on it. Well i erased this partition and unfortunatly ubuntu installed itself there and because of the way that partition is setup i am unable to see not only the rest of that drive but i cannot see the other HD i have on the system. I am thinking of switching the drives between master and slave and install ubuntu on the smaller drive and seeing if that fixes it.

RallyeRedSi · Nov 21, 2006

wicked said:
so,if it doesn't handle widows games well,what games should I use?

best bet is to dual boot windows and ubuntu

Shadow102 · Nov 21, 2006

smo0f said:
you guys are failing to utilize one of the greatest methods of installing and removing applications in linux, more specifically ubuntu. you need to start using synaptics, which uses aptitude/apt-get. to find more info about it go here http://www.debianadmin.com/simple-package-management-with-synaptic-package-manager-in-ubuntu.html.
The reason why your install is most likely failing is either because you are not running make install as root, (make install as opposed to sudo make install) or you are lacking certain dependencies. using synaptic eliminates either of these problems.

as far as your harddrive issue, you need to mount the harddrive in order for you to see it. read http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu_Edgy#Windows for more info. like i said above, ubuntuguide is a great resources to answer most of your questions. you guys can't just jump into this expecting everything to be simple.

kool thanks for the help with synaptics i am going to give it a shot tonight. I was not to sure on how to use that program like getting the programs into it.

Pitlab77 · Nov 25, 2006

smo0f said:
linux as an OS is far more superior than windows and osx, with or without the eyecandy. consider the fact that all the applications are free, and there are tons of them, that do pretty much everything you could do on windows/mac, and more. there is a learning curve of course. linux has come a long way as an OS. hardware driver support is much much better than it was years ago. and oh the best thing is you don't ever (almost) have to reboot after installing an update or software or a driver etc. and 99% no crashes or lockups (unless messing with beta/unstable applications), and it also uses less computer resources than windows. Ubuntu is probably one of the easiest and more user/newbie friendly distributions out there right now.

justanotheradikt: basically when you attempt to install ubuntu (and many other distributions), it detects your harddrive setup, and will see that you have windows setup on it. you could either get rid of everything and start fresh, or ubuntu can utilize whatever free space you allow it to use to setup, and still maintain windows, and when you boot up you'll get a menu to ask you which OS you want to load (this is referred to as dual-booting). You can download and burn the ISO image onto a CD, and when you boot it up it'll put you straight into Ubuntu (this is called a live cd). this way you can test ubuntu, mess around. don't expect it to run THAT fast because it's running off of the CD. the best thing about Ubuntu is its forums and the fact that pretty much anything you want to do or have an issue with, is documented somewhere in the forums. that is what an open source community is all about

I burned it onto a CD but every time i try to load it up it takes me to a partion maker in German??

smo0f · Nov 25, 2006

Pitlab77 said:
I burned it onto a CD but every time i try to load it up it takes me to a partion maker in German??

i don't think you downloaded the right thing

p5sundevil · Nov 26, 2006

let me know when you guys get one of these =P

http://www.shoutwire.com/viewstory/4996/Crazy_Multi_Input_Touch_Screen

wicked · Nov 26, 2006

that looks fun.

II-Savy · Nov 26, 2006

Holy cow that was way cool.

I just got Windows Vista loaded on my laptop, very cool. Only thing is you need some real Horse Power to run all the cool stuff. Aero and stuff.

Pitlab77 · Dec 30, 2006

smo0f said:
i don't think you downloaded the right thing

what is the right one?

I went to Ubuntu and DL the 6.10 version from a N.America Server, Montary Bay, Desktop and Laptop version???

RallyeRedSi · Dec 31, 2006

did you burn it as a cd image, if so try to re download it,

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