Lemon law question
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Not really sure how it works in CA, but in Maryland, you have to take the car to the dealership 3 times for the same problem.. and they have to attempt to fix it (without success) all 3 times.. all of this must happen within the first year I believe..
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The hesitation issue will not be accepted as a defect or warranty issue unless either Mazda or your dealer admits that it is an issue. In that case you can persue as neccessary. But I know that at an arbitrary level the hessitation issue will be laughed out of the room.
Mazda still considers the hessitation a design of the engine management. And not a flaw.
But pressure from individuals on this manner might get mazda to release new engine management that dosn't have so many "features" that piss us all off on occassion.
Mazda still considers the hessitation a design of the engine management. And not a flaw.
But pressure from individuals on this manner might get mazda to release new engine management that dosn't have so many "features" that piss us all off on occassion.
I will tell you how to get your vehicle bought back w/o even having a problem, if you want!
I have settled more than 300 lemon lawsuits over the past 2 years working for General Motors Legal. They ****** me over so I am always in the business of ******* any manufacturer over. The majority of cases I have handled were in CA. If anyone wants a lemon law consultation, I will advise you at no cost.
I also have a list of the top lemon law attorneys in CA that I have delt with!
I have been writing a book for the past 2 years. One that I am sure will bring lawsuits to me!
My Email- F1_74@yahoo.com
BTW: There are multiple statutes that you can file under i.e. Magnuson-Moss Federal Warranty Act, Song Beverly (AKA CA lemon Law), Breach of implied warranty, Breach of expressed warranty etc........
Drop me a line- i am forming a business now, so get the info while it is free....
John
I have settled more than 300 lemon lawsuits over the past 2 years working for General Motors Legal. They ****** me over so I am always in the business of ******* any manufacturer over. The majority of cases I have handled were in CA. If anyone wants a lemon law consultation, I will advise you at no cost.
I also have a list of the top lemon law attorneys in CA that I have delt with!
I have been writing a book for the past 2 years. One that I am sure will bring lawsuits to me!
My Email- F1_74@yahoo.com
BTW: There are multiple statutes that you can file under i.e. Magnuson-Moss Federal Warranty Act, Song Beverly (AKA CA lemon Law), Breach of implied warranty, Breach of expressed warranty etc........
Drop me a line- i am forming a business now, so get the info while it is free....
John
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I know all the tricks the lemon lawyers use... but the hessitation problem will never be settled through those means.
When my Audi was going under Lemon the lawyer suggested so many different acts and laws to file suit over that the paperwork pile was about a foot deep. I'm sure I could have had my car repurchased by audi if I would have gone with him... considering he's the #1 lemon lawyer in Ohio and has had some of the largest most influential cases in the nation...
But the process isn't exactly fun and you end up paying alot for a lawyer to get it over with. If you win the court orders the manufacturer (or dealer) to pay lawyer fees. If you lose... well its your dime.
I had two unfixed deadly defects, two problems with three failed fixes, 24 days in the shop in the first year and 6 other issues not under the above repairs. I choose not to do a lemon suit because of time constraints. I found other avenues to settle my claims and they worked well.
A lemon lawyer will never tell you it can't be done because truth is they overwhelm manufactures with paperwork and multiple suits. The idea is to get so much paperwork in there that the manufacturer requires a full team of lawyers to deal with it in a timely manner. After a certain point your case would cost them more to fight than to settle... and you win. Regardless of how truthful your claim might have been.
Makes me sick.
The fact remains though that the hessitation problem isn't a defect in any way and can be continiously argued as to if it exists at all. The lawyers will still take your money though.
When my Audi was going under Lemon the lawyer suggested so many different acts and laws to file suit over that the paperwork pile was about a foot deep. I'm sure I could have had my car repurchased by audi if I would have gone with him... considering he's the #1 lemon lawyer in Ohio and has had some of the largest most influential cases in the nation...
But the process isn't exactly fun and you end up paying alot for a lawyer to get it over with. If you win the court orders the manufacturer (or dealer) to pay lawyer fees. If you lose... well its your dime.
I had two unfixed deadly defects, two problems with three failed fixes, 24 days in the shop in the first year and 6 other issues not under the above repairs. I choose not to do a lemon suit because of time constraints. I found other avenues to settle my claims and they worked well.
A lemon lawyer will never tell you it can't be done because truth is they overwhelm manufactures with paperwork and multiple suits. The idea is to get so much paperwork in there that the manufacturer requires a full team of lawyers to deal with it in a timely manner. After a certain point your case would cost them more to fight than to settle... and you win. Regardless of how truthful your claim might have been.
Makes me sick.
The fact remains though that the hessitation problem isn't a defect in any way and can be continiously argued as to if it exists at all. The lawyers will still take your money though.
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Distant Tea-
I hate to tell this to you, but you don't know much concerning lemon laws. How many cases have you settled? Did you go to work everyday and defend a manufacturer? Tell me?
A Full team of lawyers? What the hell is that? lol
A $50.00 demand letter is all you'lll need. Just meet the presumption of the lemon law. Most lemon law firms are POOR! Only a few are successful enough to afford more than a couple of attorneys and believe me they are not working on one case. 99% of all cases are settled pre-lit with a demand letter (form letter) written by a paralegal.
Tell me the firm you are referring to, I probably know them on a first name basis.
If you want any further info or you need any more credentials e-mail me. Don't go giving anymore false info on a subject that you may have had partial experience with one time.
Very Truly Yours
I hate to tell this to you, but you don't know much concerning lemon laws. How many cases have you settled? Did you go to work everyday and defend a manufacturer? Tell me?
A Full team of lawyers? What the hell is that? lol
A $50.00 demand letter is all you'lll need. Just meet the presumption of the lemon law. Most lemon law firms are POOR! Only a few are successful enough to afford more than a couple of attorneys and believe me they are not working on one case. 99% of all cases are settled pre-lit with a demand letter (form letter) written by a paralegal.
Tell me the firm you are referring to, I probably know them on a first name basis.
If you want any further info or you need any more credentials e-mail me. Don't go giving anymore false info on a subject that you may have had partial experience with one time.
Very Truly Yours
Well Well
If it aint Perry Mason's long lost love child.
(k)
Tell me counselor can you pull a rabbit outta your butt?
No?
Your Honor I ask you to eject this man from your court he can not produce thumpers from his BUTTOCKS.
Silly lawyer tricks are for kids.
Hey you know anything about the "Orange" laws?
Perhaps you've heard of the Papaya statute?
No?
And you call your self an attorney.
b**** get you fruit straight before you dare set foot in my court room AGAIN!
Case dismissed I find in favor of the Easter bunny.
No point really I just wanted to say that.
Formula1 said:
If it aint Perry Mason's long lost love child.
(k) Tell me counselor can you pull a rabbit outta your butt?
No?
Your Honor I ask you to eject this man from your court he can not produce thumpers from his BUTTOCKS.
Silly lawyer tricks are for kids.
Hey you know anything about the "Orange" laws?
Perhaps you've heard of the Papaya statute?
No?
And you call your self an attorney.
b**** get you fruit straight before you dare set foot in my court room AGAIN!
Case dismissed I find in favor of the Easter bunny.
No point really I just wanted to say that.
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Heh!
Try Burdge Lawn office
http://www.ohiolemonlaw.com/
If you really did that work you would know his name, the name of his secretary and two paralegals.
My experience comes from being a mother farking lemon law client. On the phone with my dealer, Audi, my lawyer and Audi's lawyers trying to get this settled without going to court. Manufactures and dealerships are just as able to use the law as the owner in these cases. Especially cases like mine where its actually a dealer issue and the owner wouldn't budge.
I don't give a s*** what you say you did for a living. This guy wants to start lemon proceeding with only hessitation as his issue, which won't fly in arbitration or lemon suit.
Oh and $50 demmand letter (which means you are going through arbitration, NOT a lemon lawsuit you dumb ass, since a lawsuit requires... TAA DAA the lawyer to file suit with the courts) will get you nowhere unless you exceed the rules the law. If there is any question Audi of America will return you letter and say screw you in legal jargon.
I don't really care what you did for whatever manufacturer you worked for, but the world isn't that black and white and its not that cheap.
Try Burdge Lawn office
http://www.ohiolemonlaw.com/
If you really did that work you would know his name, the name of his secretary and two paralegals.
My experience comes from being a mother farking lemon law client. On the phone with my dealer, Audi, my lawyer and Audi's lawyers trying to get this settled without going to court. Manufactures and dealerships are just as able to use the law as the owner in these cases. Especially cases like mine where its actually a dealer issue and the owner wouldn't budge.
I don't give a s*** what you say you did for a living. This guy wants to start lemon proceeding with only hessitation as his issue, which won't fly in arbitration or lemon suit.
Oh and $50 demmand letter (which means you are going through arbitration, NOT a lemon lawsuit you dumb ass, since a lawsuit requires... TAA DAA the lawyer to file suit with the courts) will get you nowhere unless you exceed the rules the law. If there is any question Audi of America will return you letter and say screw you in legal jargon.
I don't really care what you did for whatever manufacturer you worked for, but the world isn't that black and white and its not that cheap.
Distant -Tea
I will say this one more time to you.
STOP, you know very little concerning this subject.
I am not going to address you any further and I hope you don't give too much advise concerning this subject because you really don't know much more than just that, 1 little consumer who filed a lemon lawsuit.
When I settle lawsuits, I hope every consumer that filed against my company was just another stupid, non-educated, thought they knew it all dumb ass consumer. JUST LIKE YOU LOL They were very easy to deal with.
BTW: I work for General Motors. If you have forgotten they are the largest manufacturer in the world.
BTW: Lemon laws are state specific, so how would your experience relate. CA has one of the most liberal lemon laws in the country. Extremely hard for me to defend.
BTW: A demand letter (what we refer to in the "legal field" is known as a NISM- not in suit matter). Less than 1% of all cases we receive throughout the country makes it any further than this, because we settled 99% of all cases before they goto trial. In no way is a demand letter related to an arbitritation.
BTW: Arbitritration (State or BBB) is just that. A non-legal form of resolution where a manufacturer rep, the consumer and an appointed (not a lawyer or judge) arbitrator are joined usually over the phone to discuss both sides. An arbitrators decision is binding on the manufacturer and not on the consumer. In most states, if a repurchase is rewarded at this stage, it is better for the manufacturer because we do not have to follow lemon buy back guidlines.
BTW: Most states do not require the consumer to complete the arbitration process before a lawsuit or demand letter is filed with the manufacturer.
BTW: I doubt very much that you actually had an Audi attorney look at your case much less respond to you. LOL Your not worth their salary.
Ummm, anything else- I just wanted to point out the flaws and untruths in your previous posts. Damn, what do you know, that covered just about eveything you had to say. LOL
I know what works and what doesn't work. I know how to approach this subject. Do you want to know why? Because I do it on a daily basis.
That is all, If you want to address me further e-mail me.
This is just a little taste of what goes on. Educate yourself before you respond to me again.
Again, if anyone wants some advise or tips drop an e-mail to me.
I just wanted to help out, not get into a pissing match with Distant - tea.
John
I will say this one more time to you.
STOP, you know very little concerning this subject.
I am not going to address you any further and I hope you don't give too much advise concerning this subject because you really don't know much more than just that, 1 little consumer who filed a lemon lawsuit.
When I settle lawsuits, I hope every consumer that filed against my company was just another stupid, non-educated, thought they knew it all dumb ass consumer. JUST LIKE YOU LOL They were very easy to deal with.
BTW: I work for General Motors. If you have forgotten they are the largest manufacturer in the world.
BTW: Lemon laws are state specific, so how would your experience relate. CA has one of the most liberal lemon laws in the country. Extremely hard for me to defend.
BTW: A demand letter (what we refer to in the "legal field" is known as a NISM- not in suit matter). Less than 1% of all cases we receive throughout the country makes it any further than this, because we settled 99% of all cases before they goto trial. In no way is a demand letter related to an arbitritation.
BTW: Arbitritration (State or BBB) is just that. A non-legal form of resolution where a manufacturer rep, the consumer and an appointed (not a lawyer or judge) arbitrator are joined usually over the phone to discuss both sides. An arbitrators decision is binding on the manufacturer and not on the consumer. In most states, if a repurchase is rewarded at this stage, it is better for the manufacturer because we do not have to follow lemon buy back guidlines.
BTW: Most states do not require the consumer to complete the arbitration process before a lawsuit or demand letter is filed with the manufacturer.
BTW: I doubt very much that you actually had an Audi attorney look at your case much less respond to you. LOL Your not worth their salary.
Ummm, anything else- I just wanted to point out the flaws and untruths in your previous posts. Damn, what do you know, that covered just about eveything you had to say. LOL
I know what works and what doesn't work. I know how to approach this subject. Do you want to know why? Because I do it on a daily basis.
That is all, If you want to address me further e-mail me.
This is just a little taste of what goes on. Educate yourself before you respond to me again.
Again, if anyone wants some advise or tips drop an e-mail to me.
I just wanted to help out, not get into a pissing match with Distant - tea.
John
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Dear Formula1,
Nobody as stupid as you could possibly work for GM and settle any legal dispute. First year law intern are you? Getting coffee for people and pretending to keep up?
You work for GM... good for you. I'm so glad you are so much smarter than the highly paid attourneys that do this work for real.
You are the one giving bad advice. I know the lemon law for my sate inside and out. I know the names of the attourneys on all sides in my case. Would you like their numbers? Because they sure in hell have never heard of you.
Go back to making coffee for the people who know what they are doing and stop spitting tripe out on this message board.
Maybe you can learn some manners... or possibly learn how to type before you settle any more cases. Poor GM.
Noob.
Nobody as stupid as you could possibly work for GM and settle any legal dispute. First year law intern are you? Getting coffee for people and pretending to keep up?
You work for GM... good for you. I'm so glad you are so much smarter than the highly paid attourneys that do this work for real.
You are the one giving bad advice. I know the lemon law for my sate inside and out. I know the names of the attourneys on all sides in my case. Would you like their numbers? Because they sure in hell have never heard of you.
Go back to making coffee for the people who know what they are doing and stop spitting tripe out on this message board.
Maybe you can learn some manners... or possibly learn how to type before you settle any more cases. Poor GM.
Noob.
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I just realized you must have been fired from your job... nevermind. I don't need to argue with you.
Noob.
This thread needs deleted. It does suck dosn't it.
Noob.
This thread needs deleted. It does suck dosn't it.
DistantTea
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I'm only continuing this thread because I want to see what the next picture is that eggynatey puts up.
You're momma wears combat boots. And she dress's yah funnah.
The only advice you gave Notorious was that you have SPECIAL NUMBER ONE SUPER HERO WAY OF WINNING LEMON CASE SUIT. And that you are the smartest man alive and that no one else could possibly know more than you. That you are so smart that Perry Mason trembles when he tries to get a buyback on his buick. I thought my advice was reasonable... but all you want to do is claim your greatness and how you can settle any lemon suit for $50. Who are you Mathew Lesko?
I don't buy it and I'll keep calling bulls*** on you until this thread is killed by the mods.
And I want to see the next pic eggynatey puts up.
You're momma wears combat boots. And she dress's yah funnah.
The only advice you gave Notorious was that you have SPECIAL NUMBER ONE SUPER HERO WAY OF WINNING LEMON CASE SUIT. And that you are the smartest man alive and that no one else could possibly know more than you. That you are so smart that Perry Mason trembles when he tries to get a buyback on his buick. I thought my advice was reasonable... but all you want to do is claim your greatness and how you can settle any lemon suit for $50. Who are you Mathew Lesko?
I don't buy it and I'll keep calling bulls*** on you until this thread is killed by the mods.
And I want to see the next pic eggynatey puts up.
Formula1 said:
Man you must be a lawyer you are the most unentertaining mother ****** I have seen on here yet.
Come on now get jiggy with it. Make some funny comments or pepper some profanity up in that mug will ya. s*** white bread sue your parents because they did not give you a personality.
Are you a congenitally boring white man? Yes I believe you are.
Now come on hunky go watch some Richard Pryor, some Eddie, and some MUTHA FUGGIN Chris Rock.
Wigga please dont post again until you get some style.
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