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Given the evident dichotomy (see: (bicker)) amongst Illinois board members, I've done a little research. But first, a soapbox monologue in regards to all this speeding talk:

I wasn't even speeding when I had my "holy s***" accident- but you don't have to be. I was on my way out here to visit, in Indiana, with the cruise control on 64mph (My father and I had been speeding most the way out here, and thought it'd be stupid to get pulled on the last leg of a 14 hour drive).

So, the right rear tire of the truck blows, I attempt to pull to the inside shoulder of the road, but there's a construction sign in my way. Instinctively not wanting to hit the construction sign, I swerve back into the lane. I turned back in too quickly, the back kicked out and oversteered a full 180 degrees. We got down into the grass median, the wheel with no tire on it dug into the dirt and we started to flip. Ended up doing 3 barrel rolls and one end for end flip - putting us on the roof, in the westbound lane.

I had everything I owned (literally, my entire apartment) packed up into the back of that truck. My dad broke his neck (see attached picture), and I wound up with a broken clavical, four broken fingers, a fractured eye socket, and some interesting bumps and scars (see pictures here).

I attribute the entire thing to not knowing how to deal with oversteer. The incident may not have been avoidable but it certainly could have been a lot... less bad... had I been able to control the vehicle more effectively.

After that happened, I wanted to learn... so I bought an F-150 Lightning and subsequently became fascinated with speed. There's nothing else that can so consistently blow my hair back.

This whole argument that's been going on is fascinating to me, because I suppose I fall somewhere in the middle. I certainly can't say that I never speed... and I can't say that I never drive like an ass... but I make a conscious effort to do so in ways that do not involve the safety of other people. And while that does not make it right, I know full well what the consequences can be.

I look at all this car stuff as a hobby, and use it to learn. I'm not some accomplished driver- I've done a few autocross events in a buddy's RX-8, a Skip Barber weekend, Great Lakes Drag, etc. What I can say, is that... yes, it can be pricey, it doesn't have to be... it is unbelievably good fun- and it's even more fun when you realize you don't have to worry as much about killing someone else, you can't get ticketed for it, and it makes you a better driver altogether.

SCCA Chicago is holding an informational meeting for prospective members in Addison this weekend at Chicago Indoor Racing, and if you've never taken part in anything like this, it may be good to get down there and check it out. It's free, and it'll just be a few people there explaining what happens and where throughout the year in the SCCA calendar.

Their website is here: http://www.scca-chicago.com/

Anyway, that's my two cents.

I'll be attending, and look forward to seeing some of you there.
 

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i've had two major accidents in my life one was myfault and i blame my inexperence and my lack of judgement and the other was cause the damn truck shouldn't have turned...

the first was when i went to western illinois, i had my M class for about 6 months and i was still learning the concept of everyone is going to kill you mindset you have tohave when you ride a bike..and the fact i felt like nothing could stop me...well needless to say i got lost and ended up on a highway attempting to make time..and by making time i mean going insanely fast to make time, which i admit was stupid on my part, but it felt damn good...well it all ended when a mustang didn't see me and passed a slower car, he cut in to my lane which made me panic and hit my brakes, i ended up endo'ing my bike at about 120...after a few tumbles i found myself lying face down in the median, i walked away from that, but my bike deffinately didn't. i'm happy to say i learned to think alot more before i do things like that again...

the seccond was me going south bound on a frontage road at a mall while a truck was going north...i thought that the guy wasn't gona turn, he slowed down and looked like he was going to stop, then when i was about 35 feet before i passed him he decited it was a good idea to turn left in front of me which caused me to slam right in to the side of his truck...35mph-0 HURTS ALOT!!!! i walked away form that one too...

i must say i learned alot from the things i've done, and learned to always think before i do something, and plan for the worst. i know that i cant control my surroundings or people around me and what they do, and that all i can do is rely on my self to make the right decision...from all of this i think it's tought me to be a better driver and rider. i still ride to day...

i never once thought all the things i did were justified and right. racing should always be on a track, i would never reccomend to anyone doing things that i do. i know it's completely wrong. but i am good enough to accept all the concequences that come about the things i do and never do anything with out first thinking of others....
 
good lord guys!! those are some pretty insane stories. I've heard of people not walking away from less.

I have to say that I am pretty much where TheDoc lies on this subject. As much as I preach on here about not speeding insanely fast, it's more like I'm trying to convince myself to listen to myself. And as you know, I do just like to argue. It's pretty much a way to vent any frustrations. It might not be the most positive way, but it works, and most of the people know I'm just being an ass. :) Anyway, I try really hard to behave on the road, and for the most part I do. But I know how you feel Pandakrat, there are times when the road is clear and you just want to go --->

Also, the quote in my sig is merely there because the quote is funny as hell. It's not a shot at you at all. If you're offended by it, let me know.
 
good lord guys!! those are some pretty insane stories. I've heard of people not walking away from less.

I have to say that I am pretty much where TheDoc lies on this subject. As much as I preach on here about not speeding insanely fast, it's more like I'm trying to convince myself to listen to myself. And as you know, I do just like to argue. It's pretty much a way to vent any frustrations. It might not be the most positive way, but it works, and most of the people know I'm just being an ass. :) Anyway, I try really hard to behave on the road, and for the most part I do. But I know how you feel Pandakrat, there are times when the road is clear and you just want to go --->

Also, the quote in my sig is merely there because the quote is funny as hell. It's not a shot at you at all. If you're offended by it, let me know.

it's all good...i just like to fully admit that i speed, and i like to drive fast, i like to ride fast...i just never do when the circumstances do not allow it...i can take a hit, verbal and physical so no worries...
 

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