Lack Of Diesel Options Piss Me Off

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Cars and issues of personal transportation have interested me for quite a long time, with memory spanning even back to the late 70's and the oil embargo that ensued in that decade.

Were nearing fuel prices (adjusting for inflation) that are to match or even surpass the true cost that was realized in the late 70s, and with that all the price increase hardships that ripple through all commerce-- Read, inflation.

While Ive long respected auto purist/enthusiast needs for gasoline engines and the associated high revving capabilities they render, I for one have always liked diesel engines. Theyre clearly more efficient, last longer than conventional gasoline engines, and these days are vastly improved over previous generations in terms of emissions. Theyre an excellent alternative if youve an interest in trying to save money and resources in these increasingly horrible times.

In the aftermath of the 70s oil embargo, my parents bought a 1980 Mercedes 300D, and it was a great car for over a decade. For its time, the car served our needs with comfort and excellent reliability (things have changed a lot at Mercedes since then), not to mention the outstanding fuel economy we enjoyed. She obviously wasnt the most powerful or fast of cars, but I dont recall that ever being a problem since, as is the case with pretty much ALL people, this was a CAR-- As in, it gets used for transportation, not street racing.

Ive long been most irritated with the fact that only Mercedes and Volkswagen offer diesel cars in North America-- Two makes of the worst reliability you can buy; to say nothing of the offensively expensive nature of trying to secure one of those things in the first place. You can get cheesy diesel pickup trucks from Ford and Dodge, but sedans/coupes? I think not.

I say its well past time for Japanese makes to offer their diesel driven cars to the U.S.. They sell diesels up the ass in Europe, for pretty much ALL of their models but here!?

Diesel cars, as said, are vastly improved over the way they used to be even 10 years ago. They have more power, emit fewer emissions, and are even more efficient than ever. And with fuel costs that will never be cheap again (this is a finite resource, and limited supplies mean high costs-- Dont kid yourself about fuel being cheap ever again), diesel is a superb technology that we can use right here, right now to get us through to the time when hybrids come to maturity, or other alternatives are developed.

Im hot on the trail of buying a new car, and only have to wait about a year while I save up enough to afford one. If there was a reliable diesel car out there that offered the refinement and style I demand, Id buy one without hesitation. But with only Mercedes and Volkswagen to choose from, the market is a joke. Both of those makes insult me with their callous lack of respect for dependability, and I will NEVER buy one of their cars-- Not until theyve proven they can be trusted. So that leaves NO viable options in terms of a diesel car, and that pisses me off.

Mazda, Honda, and Toyota all have excellent diesel engines; same as the reliable nature of their gasoline designs. ITS FRIGGIN TIME FOR THESE MANUFACTURERS TO BRING THEM TO NORTH AMERICA, DAMMIT! BASTARDS!!!

And oh yeah-- It wouldn't take much effort to get used to a diesel, anyway, since the FS-DE already sounds like one when you first start it up in the morning. We'd be right at home!
 
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I have three diesel engines all Cats I love them, so easy to work on it is great.

Price for diesel here is about $1.35 of course thatis without all the tax.
we get it pumped in by truck.
Of course the original price of the engines is a lot more then gas, but the diesels will last forever. also the wieght is a big issue with diesels, if you want a diesel that will last forever it is going to have a lot of wieght.
Yanmar produces a diesel, Japanese, and it is just not as good as the other makes because it is so light.
I would never get one for commercial use.
 
The only problem with diesel is it being dirty. Yeah, they are cleaning it up, but in the end, it is going to cost us at the pump. Refiners are going to be forced to do more work to the diesel (which isn't far from raw oil to begin with) to make is burn cleaner, and they aren't going to do it for free. Take a look at just about any major European city, the air is horrible. Don't get me wrong, I'd love a badass diesel car or truck, but it's not going to be the savior for gas.
 
orangezoom said:
I have three diesel engines all Cats I love them, so easy to work on it is great.
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AlbinoMuntjac said:
The only problem with diesel is it being dirty.
No. Diesels are actually cleaner than gasoline engines; although they do create their share of sox, this has a tendency to be reduced, like you said, with better refining. nox emissions however, are much lower, and unlike gasoline engines, diesel exhaust still contains oxygen (roughly 16%) and water vapour....
 
I think the main problem with Diesels right now is simply people's memories of older diesel stinkers. Current diesels put out by VW, Mercedes, etc are great, but all people can think of is "what is that smell?", and the characteristic rumble of a diesel engine.
 
In 2 years or so Fed regulations will change the amount of sulfur in diesel to levels similar to European regulations. Expect that when that happens (and Gas prices don't lower/level off) to see quite a few models coming over. It'd make sense, there has been some fairly signafigant talk about the Liberty, Focus, and quite a few others coming over when that happens.
One big problem with diesels in the US was the GM attempt to sell there large cars with the diesels in the early eighties. What a bunch of crap. My gpa had one. While he didn't have any problems with it, you could here the thing coming from a couple miles away adn it was quite sloooowww. The domestic attempts to have diesels here bombed fairly badly.
 
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