JL audio Subs??

JL speakers usually react well to a litle more power than what the spec sheet says, I'm giving 200w to my 12w0 and 75w to my XR525-cs speakers wich are suposed to be 60w, they both sound great.
 
I kind of wish I had something similar to that do to the inefficiency of my amps and my sub requiring so much power to get them pumping. Sure they give me more umphh, but it's been a real pain in the ass with the amount of current my amps draw.:rolleyes: I am considering switching to another type of amp (like Class D) and getting one with a little more power and putting the bigger of the two SoundStreams on the highs for more volume. I like it loud and undistorted!:D

MisterT
 
Widow is right, especialy with JL subs, they are more conservatively rated then the typical, RF, lightining, pioneer or kenwood crap.
 
Keep in mind T that with efficiency in a class D amp, typicaly you loose SQ. THe amp has to be one or the other. Engineering trade offs. Thats why the X1001 widow has and I did have and my JL 1000/1 are very inefficient for Class D amps.
 
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Keep in mind T that with efficiency in a class D amp, typicaly you loose SQ. THe amp has to be one or the other. Engineering trade offs. Thats why the X1001 widow has and I did have and my JL 1000/1 are very inefficient for Class D amps.

So it's not contagious?! Sorry wrong post HA! As far as SQ goes with a subwoofer amp, can you really hear much of an audible difference being that they only produce low frequencies? There is always a catch, Class A = best SQ, but horrible efficiency. :eek: Before I do anything, I have to try rewiring to the alternator from the battery. No sense in getting something until the problem I have now is fixed! :rolleyes:

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jayka said:
I'm looking forward to getting 2 subwoofers.
I'm buying 1 year used subs and the model is JL 12w0.
The average wattage is 125W.
Does it have enough power to shake streets?
Any opinions on this subwoofer??
Any experiences??

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I actually have a single 10w0 in a sealed box in back of my 94 . IT hits good, great sound quality. Bout it from tweeter. Wattage has nothin to do with the quality or sound of the subs. The guy i bought the sub off of has 3 10w0's and a 500x1 amp to each of the subs in the back of his gfs truck. and he said they were awsome and wouldnt blow. i have 300watts to mine and hits good. you can hear it a good bit outside the car in the front and on the sides. But if ur gettin 12's then they will be louder. and deeper obviously. ive been really satisfied with the speaker. im hard on my audio equip. so this lil sub has handled pretty good over this year -year and a half since i got it. Great sound and quality!!!!!!
 
servoeyes said:
I heard a 10w0 being run off the 250/1 at tweeter a couple days ago. It'll be fine... :D
thats also a good setup. SOunds good as s***, im tryin to find a 250/1 amp for mine but cant find one cheap enough. Im runnin the 300watts brindged rms off of my Kenwood Excelon Amp.
 
A member is selling one on this site.

For $250, check the For Sale area.
 
All my friends say Kicker makes the best sub and so does Rockford Fosgate. They told me JL makes deep sound but it needs more RMS, while Kicker are deep with a low RMS. Is that ture that Kicker is better than JL?
And another question. The RMS for JL 12w0 is only 125W, but can I give it 200W each? Will it blow the subs?
From what I understand, more wattage gives more power and deeper sound. If it's not right, gimme some correct info guys :)
 
jayka said:
All my friends say Kicker makes the best sub and so does Rockford Fosgate. They told me JL makes deep sound but it needs more RMS, while Kicker are deep with a low RMS. Is that ture that Kicker is better than JL?
And another question. The RMS for JL 12w0 is only 125W, but can I give it 200W each? Will it blow the subs?
From what I understand, more wattage gives more power and deeper sound. If it's not right, gimme some correct info guys :)

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That was all basicly backwards.
Kicker, Rockford, and JL all have different sub lines. Comparing the companies in general over power ratings is pointless. Although they are all very simialr at the top.

JL rates their power handling more conservatively. Kicker and RF exagerate there handling numbers as the amps that mate to their subs are also typicaly over rated.

The JLs are a more acousticly accurate subs and kicker and RF are very much more about volume.

For the price the JL W0 is untouchable in my mind. Especialy by a kicker comp or RF HE. Also keep in mind Kickers subs sits in the middle of the JL and fosgate lines. Like the kicker comp VR is $150 and the JLW3 is $200 as is the RF HE2. Again hard to compare becuase of that.

A sub doesn't go lower based on the power it is given. The dynamics of that sub and the box it is put in makes that decision.
The JLW0s can easily take a real and undistorted 200 watts rms. Its distortion and a sitty box that will hurt them.

Of coarse more watts gives more power, watts are the unit of power. If you mean more power gives more volume then, yes you are correct. However, you must double the power to gain even 3db. Again, deeper sound is not a product of power, although a bad amp throwing distortion will not sound as clean when playing deep notes.
 
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I think Sony is one of the worse as far as bogus claims in wattage. I saw an amp for around $169 that had a big imprint on it saying "1000 WATTS" :bs: Maybe for 1 milisecond it will put out that much, but in terms of RMS, you are lucky to get 100!
In terms of the best subwoofer, it is confusing in that there are so many. I can't say for sure what's "the best" versus "what's the best for the money." Other speakers, well, it depends on the person. What sounds great to one person, my sound totally ass to the other(spank) I used to tell customers at the shop I worked at to bring their favorite CD to compare speakers in terms of sound quality. Subs are a little different in that they just produce low frequencies, but for the most part, you can distinguish a good one to a bad one.

MisterT
 
OK.. now I get it. Thanks for the information.
Anyways, I found a good sub box which is $170CAD and I'm going to buy JVC head unit. However, i haven't still decided yet which amp I should buy. Which amplifier do you recommancd for 2 JL 12W0s??
Sorry for asking too much questions thou.
I'm so dumb at audio system; I'm learning it :D
 
If used is an option then Jrod has a JL 250/1 for sale for $250 in th eFor Sale section. That is my 1st pick for an amp.
 
If you have the cash, match JL and get either the 250/1 (which should be able to run both) or get the 500/1 (which is a lot more) and will thump A LOT! The 250/1 should do it, for the w0's though. If you're short on cash and want thump then look at Alpine or kicker. If you're even shorter on cash...then look at cheaper stuff like Lanzer or stuff. I don't know of the amp quality, but Axionixx (sold by Elemental Designs) aren't too terribly priced, and eD seems to be a reliable company, from what others say. I'll let you know in a few months when my car setup is done as to their quality!
 
I'd go no cheaper then the alpine MRP-M350. The JL 500/1 would be torture to those subs although they will take it.
 
The 500/1 would be better suited to 10w3s wouldn't you say? Yeah...I realized that after I wrote it...but definately try to get the 250/1...you can't go wrong with that thing!
 
I use the 500/1 for 2 W3 or 3 W0s. It can be stretched to do 3 W3s though.
 

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