JAPAN: Mazda Launches Mazdaspeed Axela with pricing!

[seanw]

We always get things cheaper 25 k is resonable.
In Japan things are more expensive but that have more money, around here things are alot cheaper which more then offsets our lower earnings.

Wow, Japan sounds a lot like NYC.

 

[melicha8]

I think mazda is trying to hard not to be volkswagon. They're the ones with ugly styling and kick ass wheels. And here we have the three on the exact end of the spectrum. Same goes for the MS6

 

[MadBiker]

Pricewise, yes Japan is like NYC but pay is LOOOOOWW

Wow, Japan sounds a lot like NYC.

I live in Japan dude, and in the boonies too. Prices are still very ridiculously expensive but pay is quite low on average for the entire country. I have no idea how people here make a living, much less save etc....

Check out what I paid for my Atenza Sport:
http://www.msprotege.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1698516#post1698516

But the new Mazdaspeed Axela would be a sweet ride!!!! even with the torque steer....

 

[chuyler1]

OK, all you dealership questionairs...here's how it works...they treat a MAZDASPEED just like any other car. Like my sales manage said once, "We're here to SELL them not to hoard 'em." If you think that you can't get near/at/below invoice on ANY mazda then YOU are being sold. MS6's are very cheap right now because they are not a hot car, RX8's are cheap because they are not hot, MSprotege's were unbelievably cheap, and to think that the MS3 won't sell for cheap is to think WRONG. Play your cards right and you can get them for invoice...that said, don't go to your Mazda dealership tommorrow and say get me a MS3 at invoice with no money down and expect them not to laugh at you. If you want a car cheap, wait for the market to slow and buy then. Sometimes it takes a while, sometimes not.

I agree with this. WHen I bought my Protege5 in March of 2003 the dealership had several Spicey MSPs. I walked in, the perfect candidate for such a car considering mostly the P5 but I was curious about the MSP. The sales guy basically told me right out I didn't want one. I wasn't crazy about the color so I focused on the P5 from that point on. Had he told me it was going to come in Laser blue in a month or two he could have easily up-sold me...but he wanted to make the sale on something he knew I would buy. I went in to test drive a MS6 a few months back. A different sales rep didn't really have his s*** together on specs and how fun the car was. They should be raving about the car the way people talk on these forums...but I didn't feel like they were promoting the car very well.

I also agree about waiting for the market to drop. However, that only works if you are willing to sacrifice some options you may want for a better price. I got my laser blue P5 with leather, abs, moonroof, and a 5spd. There was only one car in a 100mi radius that fit that description in March of 2003. If I waited until July-August I would have had to sacrifice something to get what I wanted. So if you must have <color> with <option>. Don't wait around too long.

 

[stillflat4]

I live in Japan dude, and in the boonies too. Prices are still very ridiculously expensive but pay is quite low on average for the entire country. I have no idea how people here make a living, much less save etc....

Wow... Sounds EXACTLY like NY!

 

[MadBiker]

I don't know about Mazdaspeeds, but if you go to MazdaUSA and look for dealers that have Internet deals, they'd give you a no BS quote for a car. When I bought my P5, the quote was $400 over invoice (like $16,700) for my Midnight Blue P5 with chrome wheels. Other folks in the showroom were getting ripped off. Might be worth looking into to get a great deal on a Mazdaspeed.... and my internet sales guy at the dealership was pretty gungho about the cars he was selling too. Hope my input helps you guys.

And stillflat4, no place on earth beats NY, even an NYC that still smarts from 9/11.

 

[trees]

Canada will be releasing pricing info in the next couple weeks(headbang)

 

[Breeegz]

How does the regular 3 compare in yen to dollars?

 

[nautical2086]

**** that coming with auto option.

 

[spike blue]

I agree with this. WHen I bought my Protege5 in March of 2003 the dealership had several Spicey MSPs. I walked in, the perfect candidate for such a car considering mostly the P5 but I was curious about the MSP. The sales guy basically told me right out I didn't want one. I wasn't crazy about the color so I focused on the P5 from that point on. Had he told me it was going to come in Laser blue in a month or two he could have easily up-sold me...but he wanted to make the sale on something he knew I would buy. I went in to test drive a MS6 a few months back. A different sales rep didn't really have his s*** together on specs and how fun the car was. They should be raving about the car the way people talk on these forums...but I didn't feel like they were promoting the car very well.

I also agree about waiting for the market to drop. However, that only works if you are willing to sacrifice some options you may want for a better price. I got my laser blue P5 with leather, abs, moonroof, and a 5spd. There was only one car in a 100mi radius that fit that description in March of 2003. If I waited until July-August I would have had to sacrifice something to get what I wanted. So if you must have <COLOR>with <OPTION>. Don't wait around too long.

you right i was considering the ms3 but i really change my mind since i have my msp the valuable is not good and also it has problems like all msps has , definitly im happy with the audi a4 my bother got i drive it 2 times a week and i really considering the a3 , i know it has less power but is a better performance car, a good quality and with less amount of money you can modify way better than the ms3.

 

[Antoine]

you right i was considering the ms3 but i really change my mind since i have my msp the valuable is not good and also it has problems like all msps has , definitly im happy with the audi a4 my bother got i drive it 2 times a week and i really considering the a3 , i know it has less power but is a better performance car, a good quality and with less amount of money you can modify way better than the ms3.

Let's WAIT until the MS3 is actually on the STREETS before making such a conclusion...IMO, the MS3 will walk all over an A3 and it will look better doing it!

 

[MadBiker]

Mazda's suggested retail price is 2,410,000 yen (includes taxes) for the Mzdspd Axela in Japan, this is with 2.3l DOHC, 2WD, 6MT. Just as Antione noted in his very first post.

Here's the link:
http://www.axela.mazda.co.jp/estimate2/moption

 

[Puckpimp71]

Let's WAIT until the MS3 is actually on the STREETS before making such a conclusion...IMO, the MS3 will walk all over an A3 and it will look better doing it!

The regular Mazda 3 already owns the A3 in every catergory but straight line accleration. Skip pad, slalom, braking distance, price, reliabilty... I still like the A3, but for the money, I'd a 3GT with nav for about 7000 less than an A3 and still have plenty of money to boost it.

 

[spike blue]

The regular Mazda 3 already owns the A3 in every catergory but straight line accleration. Skip pad, slalom, braking distance, price, reliabilty... I still like the A3, but for the money, I'd a 3GT with nav for about 7000 less than an A3 and still have plenty of money to boost it.

ok i like the 3 a lot i did have one tow years ago gt i change that one for the audi a4. my question is , im not happy with the reliabity with my msp, so youre saying that the 3 has a good reliability??? What about the depreciation in value.

 

[Puckpimp71]

Save for a few TSBs on the 04, I haven't seen any glaring, recurring problems with the 3... can't say that about most of the VWs we sell. As far as deprciation goes, just take a look at the used car market for the 3. It helps that there's no rebates on the car now, too. It's not as strong as Audi's resale, but that's typical when comparing economy cars to luxury. You can't really compare a niche market, small production afterthought like the MSP to the 3, since it's Mazda's bread and butter right now. Speaking for myself, the only problem I've really had with my car is some rattles and that damn Kenwood HU, which is long gone. Anyway, it looks like the 2.3l DISI is here to stay, so I'm betting the MS3 will be a good, solid car.

 

[2003newlyack]

I had to go to my dealership to get inspected yesterday.. and there sitting right in front of it was the axela.. looks amazing was tinted all the way around, magnaflow exhaust, red calipers.. and I'm not sure if it was stock or anything I'm going to go back up with a camera and hopefully it will still be there

 

[spike blue]

Save for a few TSBs on the 04, I haven't seen any glaring, recurring problems with the 3... can't say that about most of the VWs we sell. As far as deprciation goes, just take a look at the used car market for the 3. It helps that there's no rebates on the car now, too. It's not as strong as Audi's resale, but that's typical when comparing economy cars to luxury. You can't really compare a niche market, small production afterthought like the MSP to the 3, since it's Mazda's bread and butter right now. Speaking for myself, the only problem I've really had with my car is some rattles and that damn Kenwood HU, which is long gone. Anyway, it looks like the 2.3l DISI is here to stay, so I'm betting the MS3 will be a good, solid car.

you right in every aspect but i think i might change a normal brand for a luxury/sport brand!!!

 

[neit_jnf]

so with a custom driveshaft and related electronics would it be possible to retrofit the MZSP6 AWD system to the MZSP3?

Regardless, I'm seriously thinking about trading my P5 for one of these and my first mod is going to be a custom CAI and 3" turbo back exhaust with metal core high flow cats and a manual boost controller set at 18psi

 

[RHAGEL]

so with a custom driveshaft and related electronics would it be possible to retrofit the MZSP6 AWD system to the MZSP3?

Regardless, I'm seriously thinking about trading my P5 for one of these and my first mod is going to be a custom CAI and 3" turbo back exhaust with metal core high flow cats and a manual boost controller set at 18psi

The 3 and 6 are on a different platform. It would be possible to put the Volvo S40 AWD system into the MS3. I don't know how difficult it would be but I am sure it would work. The only two problems I can see are that they use different engine and transmission layouts and I doubt the internals would hold up to the increase power of the MS3.

 

[Pyr0TeK]

Ugggg... best thing that can happen to the Speed 3 is a LOWERING KIT! I'm pretty sure a few small children could sleep in that wheel well with no problem. Gotta slam it down and get some aftermarket wheels... the stock ones blow.