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Yup. I'm boosted. Took me three damn days. Not everything went as planned...had to fab some stuff (like the oil return line which was WAY too long, and I had to make my own intake). The car likes to want to stall. Although the more I drive it, the less it wants to stall. The car hesitates and bogs, and occasionally backfires. At high speeds (on the highway) it especially likes to bog, and at times the entire car bucks. It's very senstive to throttle position; a slight change while cruising on the highway usually results in bogging and/or bucking. As it is right now, the car drives very poorly. To be honest, I'm suprised I made it home alive.

Also, when I "get on the throttle" a bit, smoke comes out of the exhaust. Don't know what color...it was too dark to tell tonight. Oh yeah...and though I haven't gotten on it too hard yet, I still haven't seen it make more than 1psi.

Here are my prime suspects on why the car is running right...

-Vacuum lines. I T'd my O2 voltage clamp and my FMU into the same vacuum line. I'm just not sure if the source was a good source (I suspect it's not). I T'd into a 4" line on the far passenger side of the intake manifold that goes between the manifold and a solenoid. The other side of the solenoid is connected to a line that eventually leads to the VICS system. When I initially cut the 4" line from the manifold to the solenoid, it released pressure (I heard a "PSHHHHT"). Also, I'm running my boost gauge off of the vacuum line that goes to the stock FPR. My wastegate is connected to the fitting on the compressor side of the turbo.

-The BOV. My vacuum line from the BOV is going directly into the unused vacuum probe in the manifold. But, the spring may be too tight. At first it was too loose and would leak air at idle, but a thick washer fixed that up, however now it may be too tight to work correctly. On top of that, the car would like it much better if the BOV was recirculated right behind the MAS.

-Still running stock plugs since the ones sent to me weren't all gapped the same (they looked like they were bent a little during shipping). This should be hard to fix, I just need to gap them. Terry, what do i gap them to?

Ok, I'm going to bed. Any info (especially on the BOV/vacuum lines) would be a big help. Thanks.
 

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If you haven't seen it make more than 1psi, maybe you have a vacuum leak somewhere in your piping? Sounds like that typically makes it idle bad and be less driveable.

Chris
 
Where did you get the filter? Is that the one you got with the kit?

Take the vacuum line from the compressor and use that on your FMU or something else other than the wastegate. You're at low boost because you're sending it a signal from the compressor. If you are making 3 psi at the compressor, you might only be getting 1 psi at the TB due to the intercooler. I bet if you run a different vacuum line to the wastegate (from after the TB) you'll see more boost. . .betcha!

Yes, very senstive to throttle position, you get used to it though and will be able to drive like a pro again. Just don't throttle on and off too much. Someone will think you're blowing the steering wheel. :)

Spark plugs should be gapped at .035. I've also heard to gap them at .032, but I don't know that it makes a lot of difference. I forget what stock is, but I think that it is .032 or .034. I gapped mine .035.

As for the smoke, probably blue and probably the oil from the turbo (much like mine). I'm STILL waiting for the gasket for my oil restrictor. I'm using SO much oil right now. . .it isn't funny. Sucks if you have the restrictor and are still running some due to the turbo "leakage". Hopefully as you break that in, it will go away. Mine only seems to be getting worse.

Glad to hear you're running though. Should feel a little bit more powerful.

Stalling. . .hmmm. . .9# flywheel. . .hmmm. . . :) (But I don't know that for sure.) Likely a vacuum leak. How many in-Hg do you pull at idle?
 
You deff have a leak, double check your ic pipes, if ya remember i had the same problems the exact same. My prob was one of my pipes came off when stepped on it the first time. After that i could not see anything past 2psi. While you are checking for the leak dissconnect the neg terminal to reset the ecu. I did this and now car runs great, i still did'nt get the chance to put in my o2 sensors but it is running great no idle probs .
 
What i did was the orig vac line for the fpr, i tapped into that for the fmu. The vac nipple on the TB i used a double tee, one for the bov and the other for the boost gauge.
 
Little Beavis said:
Where did you get the filter? Is that the one you got with the kit?
Yeah, it came w/ the kit.

Spark plugs should be gapped at .035. I've also heard to gap them at .032, but I don't know that it makes a lot of difference. I forget what stock is, but I think that it is .032 or .034. I gapped mine .035.

Mine are at .035. The stock plugs that I pulled out were BLACK AS HELL, which indicates uber-rich, of course. I was running the 12:1 FMU in it, but I'm now running it set at 10:1.

As for the smoke, probably blue and probably the oil from the turbo (much like mine).

Luckily *knock on wood* it was black. Too much fuel. Don't see it much now.


Stalling. . .hmmm. . .9# flywheel. . .hmmm. . . :) (But I don't know that for sure.)

There's a mazda motorsports protege thread that was recently bumped. He's running my flywheel and didn't complain about it.
 
UPDATE: A lot of the issues are fixed. The culprits were...
-90* elbow to TB was loose
-my ghetto rigged intake wasn't cutting it
-i was running stock plugs which were black
-sparkco wires smoothed it out a bit to help
-Vacuum lines could have been the issue, but didn't make a night and day difference.

My only problem now is that if I build a lot of boost and then say..put it in neutral, the car will stall. I REALLY think it's because it needs a recirculating BOV since the MAFS is seeing the extra air, and giving it extra fuel...but the airis being dumped to the atmosphere, and the fuel is being provided anyway, bogging the engine. Hopefully I'll find out weds.
 
i had the same idle problems with my car when i first turboed it it was doe to the blowoff running atmospheric resulting in the mass airflow sensor going crazy and forcing the car to idle really low so i bought a flange and a breather hose and conected it to the intake and no longer have the idle problem. but for the 1psi thing your on your own i have no idea sounds like a vacume leak but have no suggestions there.
 
My kit came with a recirculating BOV and I never was able to track down why it kept stalling in the exact way you described so I opened up the throttle body.
However along the way of checking things I found an exhuast leak before the 02 sensor can really piss off the idle.
Other then that check all air hoses again and again.
 
kylenls said:
i had the same idle problems with my car when i first turboed it it was doe to the blowoff running atmospheric resulting in the mass airflow sensor going crazy and forcing the car to idle really low so i bought a flange and a breather hose and conected it to the intake and no longer have the idle problem. but for the 1psi thing your on your own i have no idea sounds like a vacume leak but have no suggestions there.


I'm running 5psi now. Can you take pics of the recirculating thing you made?
 
Anyway, time for another update. Now, not only does it stall coming off of boost, but it occasionally stalls when coming off of the throttle when I never boosted. Usually at low speeds.
 
Check those intake pipes then all connections in the exhuast before the 02 sensor.
 
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