Is this a decent system (will it all work well together)?

[RyanJayG]

not necissarily, what you need more than anything is an amp that can take 2 ohms bridged

 

[then00b]

Well I am trying to get as much out of my sub as possible (since I wasnt impressed at all with my friends's 250 watts going into his type r), so wont I need to get to 500 watts for it to be decent?

 

[RyanJayG]

what is "decent" to you?

if you are wanting crazy amounts of SPL then you are going in the wrong direction with the wrong components, and pretty much the wrong budget

 

[chuyler1]

The kicker only produces 210 watts to the sub, dont we want around 500 watts?

The Kicker will product 420 watts to the sub since it is 2ohms. If it were a 4ohm sub it would only product 210 watts.

 

[then00b]

The sub is 4 ohms...
By decent, I want to at least be able to feel the "thumping" (for lack of a better word) of the sub at a somewhat high power range...

 

[then00b]

Anyone else?

 

[DrooandhisES]

as much as chuyler and i disagree, he really does know how to put together a nice system. (yoda voice) follow obiwan young skywalker otherwise suck your system truly will.

 

[then00b]

I was looking at the Orion 8004 amp? Ive heard good things about it. Do you guys know anything about it?

 

[chuyler1]

The sub is 4 ohms...
By decent, I want to at least be able to feel the "thumping" (for lack of a better word) of the sub at a somewhat high power range...

There is no single 4 ohm version of the IDQ 12. There is only a 4ohm DVC and 2ohm DVC. The 4ohm DVC can be wired for 8ohms or 2ohms. The 2ohm DVC can be wired for 4ohms or 1ohm. According to the Q&A at the bottom of the ebay item you linked to on post 146, the sub in the auction was a 4ohm DVC. Please correct me if I am wrong...it makes a big difference.

With a 4ohm DVC you want to wire it for 2ohms to get the most out of any amplifier. However, not all amplifiers can run 2ohms when bridged. Most amplifiers cannot...that DLS amp I posted is one exception. So instead of bridging two channels of an amp, you should simply use a single channel from a 3-channel amp or use two separate amps, one being a monoblock.

Orion is a good company. I don't have any personal experience with them though. However, the 8004 fits into the same category as the other amps...it is not 2ohm stable when bridged.

 

[chuyler1]

as much as chuyler and i disagree, he really does know how to put together a nice system. (yoda voice) follow obiwan young skywalker otherwise suck your system truly will.

a 4ohm sub he needs...mmm yes. Not ready he is. Must complete training.

 

[then00b]

Alright so let me get this straight.
When I read this:
RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 70W x 2 + 210W x 1
The 4 ohms is not the dual voice coil version?
And when I read that I should double the one channel's power rating since the dual 4 ohm sub can be wired to 2 ohms, thus increasing the power?

Thanks.

 

[RyanJayG]

Alright so let me get this straight.
When I read this:
RMS Power @ 4 Ohms: 70W x 2 + 210W x 1
The 4 ohms is not the dual voice coil version?
And when I read that I should double the one channel's power rating since the dual 4 ohm sub can be wired to 2 ohms, thus increasing the power?

Thanks.

that 210W X 1 is 210W at 4 ohms.

since your sub is dual voice coil, with each coil rated at 4 ohms you can wire them in paralell to get 2 ohms.

also, just because an amp is rated a number at 4 ohms, it doesn't mean its doubles it at 2 ohms (half the impedance) because inefficiency raises its ugly head. However you will make quite a bit more power (unless talking about a regulated powersupply amp like JL Audio's slash series) at 2 ohms. All this ofcourse if your amp is RATED for 2 ohms bridged. thats the key.

 

[then00b]

So then that Kicker would produce about 420 watts to the sub?
I got the amp pricematched down to $260 from Cardomain and its $220 at ikesound refurbished.

I think the Kicker is going to be the amp right now.

 

[RyanJayG]

So then that Kicker would produce about 420 watts to the sub?
I got the amp pricematched down to $260 from Cardomain and its $220 at ikesound refurbished.

I think the Kicker is going to be the amp right now.

which kicker amp? the kx650.4 you were talking about earlier? It will NOT be stable at 2ohm bridged.

 

[then00b]

No, the Kicker KX500.3.

 

[RyanJayG]

that would be respectable... 40W to the comps, and 400W to the sub...

just make sure your components are efficient, cause your sub could overpower them if they aren't

 

[chuyler1]

Did you mean the Kicker KX550.3? I don't see the KX500.3 on CarDomain's site. The KX550.3 puts out the 420w for the sub and 70x2w for the speakers. The KX500.3 puts out 400w for the sub and 40x2w for the speakers.

Anyway, both will work nicely but the KX550.3 is obviously the better choice because it will give your front speakers more power.

 

[then00b]

My bad. I am talking about the KX550.3. Thanks for the correction.
And I dont have component speakers...I have 3-way speakers.

 

[1sty]

And I dont have component speakers...I have 3-way speakers.

The term 3-way is misleading. Typicly a 2-way or 3-way refers to a component speaker. What you have is a triaxial.

 

[then00b]

Thanks for the correction. I think I am going to go with the Kicker. Everything looks fine for that amp? 420 watts to the sub is enough?
Thanks.