Is the MS6 worth Keep?

[Anubis-MZD6]

Is the MS6 worth Keeping?

Ok,

I have been looking around for parts and researching what people have done to this car in order to get more power out it. Well, as we all know this car is very limited either due to ECU messing up the tuning or because of the fact that we have a sucky fuel system. This is again most of the complaints that I have noticed on damn near every Mazda forum Ive been on.

Not only did Mazda did us a low blow with the tuning on us, this vic was only produced for two years. If we would have to repair our cars find parts will be hard unless you find a fully intact MS3 motor, in hopes that it will work or at least the parts you pull off. The part that kills me the most is that this is the only car that I that can blow itself up being stock alone.

Is this car worth keeping? In put would greatly be appreciated. I want to keep the car but with the apparent issues we have to deal with, I would rather get a more reliable car.

 

[my3needsaname]

Yea I'd say it's worth keeping. As long as you're bringing it in to a certified Mazda service technician then parts will be no problem...I mean it's not like it was run for one year 20 years ago.
It's like 2 years old, run for 2 years and there are plenty of them on the road.

I'd say it's worth it to keep.

 

[Anubis-MZD6]

I understand what you are saying but the part that kills me is, I want 400whp out of the car. I read a thread one guy put on here about all the mods he put on his car and he couldn't even hit the 400 mark. I would mind keeping this car if it was just for looks but I love to have a little more power out of her.

yeah the cars has been out for a couple of years but the things that I have read, especially MS6 owners blowing their motors up on stock kind of freaks me out. I have seen maybe four at the max back in Copperas Cove TX but repairs would be a b**** on this, at least that what I feel

 

[my3needsaname]

400 is a bit high...if you had an I5 in there then it could possibly be attainable but you'd really need something with either another turbo or 2 more cylinders. I just don't think you'll be able to get 400WHP out of it. Getting more power out of it is easy. I mean if you're going for something like 300WHP then that's definitely an easy target. 325WHP could be attainable with a bigger turbo but that's probably the tops of it. I'd talk more to the MS6 guys about it...wherever they are.

Do you know what they were doing and how they drove it when it blew up? I mean it's not just gonna blow up from everyday driving...or at least shouldn't...

 

[Anubis-MZD6]

I am under the assumption that they were immature drives which would say alot. You know, the ones that would try a race everyone and their grandma.

My thing is I want to be able to compete with evo/sti class. I know that our cars motor alone can not handle 400whp on stick block like those two cars. Mind you we are still talking about four bangers here. But I also know that those to vic's motor are better built from the factory unlike ours.

400whp is mild, 500 is high to me.
Yeah, I wish the other MS6 guys would provide a little insight. Some do others don’t. Sad part is I can better benefit the Cobb AP with and STi the MS6. Again STi is a better built vic from the factory

 

[waldo_2001]

I would say you answered your own question, You wont be able to get the power easy and reliable so it souunds like the only option would be to look into a different car like the ones you are wanting to be like or compete with. Maybe a Legacy GTb if you are wanting a little more refined car but can still get good power.

 

[Anubis-MZD6]

I know I kinda did. Sad part is I'm in Iraq right now and cant to crap about. I've been researching and trying to find fix’s for the fuel cut and ECU issues. The only answer would be a standalone but if i do that i might as well kiss the car good bye. I know that there is a wiring harness for, what is that s*** called, xede or something like that. However, this is not a stand alone. I know that I could get one but wiring that bad boy would be a pain and then tuning in it would be hell. Our fuel system is so damn different....it drives me nuts. It kinda pisses me off that mazda didn't stick to a regular fuel pump. I think us as tuners would keep these cars and have a field day with them.

yeah, I would like an STi over a EVo. The Cobb Ap is better used with the wrx sti models.

 

[my3needsaname]

To this car, 400 is a stretch, 500 is impossible. I'd say 325 and that would be about it without too much hell to just drive it around.

waldo_2001 said exactly what I was thinking...minus the Subaru part. But it seems that you got a car that's pretty sweet but the engine just can't handle your demands. That Subie sounds badass though, I'd look into that one...in fact, I will now!

Hey, if you want the STI, find a nice one that's slightly used and pick it up! I see no reason not too unless you're really partial to the MS6.

 

[Anubis-MZD6]

would love to get a STi. I actually wanted one to being with put all i could get was the MS6. I blew my motor in my last car and I need a vic and all i could was the MS6. They wouldn't give me the STi and that vic was used like hell but the dealer was trying to get their moneys worth because it was an STi. Once I get back some time in June, I am going to check a couple of STi's out. I want a 04 to 05 model; I've always loved that year. i don't know why but I do.

I mean I love the MS6 but i still want a little more out of it. The one thing about the MS6 I will hate to lose is the luxury feel of it. Who knows i might just end up keeping it that is a stretch though. We will see what happens. s*** I already spent 2 grand in parts that are waiting to be installed. Damn it. I'll see what will happen when i get back though.

 

[protege02]

I say keep it, mod it to around 300whp, and call it quits there. it will be fast enough and reliable.

 

[ms6acton]

keep

 

[Sylinc18]

its a sweet car, i'd keep it, and in time get that sti! i know what you mean tho, the sti is car i wanted to drive first especially the 04-05 models are sweet! Never liked the hatchback style the sti's got goin on now

 

[wannabe]

if you wanted a 400 whp car, why did you buy a 230ish whp car?

thats a VERY long way to go. i understand people wanting more out of a car, but you are trying to get a crapload of power out of a 2.3l engine...its just not gonna be easy or safe.

 

[Suspect987]

I think the MS6 is a keeper but stock parts can be an issue. I was in a wreck in the beginning of December. The body shop I went to went through one of the biggest Mazda dealers in the Chicago area for parts. It took 9 weeks before I got my car back. This caught me and the body shop off guard. It's a 2yr old car, but that made little to no difference. I'm still pissed at Mazda over this, but I have my car back running great and that's all that matters in the end.

 

[Boostme]

Im suprised what im hearing from some of you. This car is more than capable of making 400+ horsepower. And no you dont necessarily need more cylinders or twin turbos to do it. Tuning is the key. And last I checked everything is out there that you need to achieve that goal. STIs and Evos are nice but the ms6 is just as nice and capable as well. My pockets arent deep enough yet so I will have to wait awhile. But my goal is 450 hp, and yes it can and will be done.

 

[Atreyu3388]

A car is a car, is a car. Vehicle modification is one of the riskiest, least cost effective and lowest return investments you will ever make. However, if you educate yourself and don't let the "Doom and Gloomers" get to you, all will be fine. As I have said in previous posts, the best favor you can do for yourself is research, research, research...plain and simple. Why? Because KNOWLEDGE IS POWER.

As long as you do the research and aren't afraid to ask the "Stupid questions" (that could end up saving you mad $$$) you will not go wrong. I am going with very modest bolt ons and Cobb AP for tuning. The reason I love this car is because from the exterior it doesn't have the flashiness you get with an Evo, STi or an SRT4. The car is a beast with class. 300 AWHP is more than sufficient for a daily driver. Unless you drag professionally or have an abundant amount of disposable income, there is NO need to have more than that. Trust me, before I bought this car, I almost scooped a 550hp AMS tuned Evolution IX, but bowed out because I don't want that flashy LOOK AT ME factor.

To conclude, the decision is only yours to make, but advise can only help. I wish you luck in whatever decision you decide to make and MORE luck if you decide to stick with the MS6, do the research and have killer sleeper of a car.

 

[Anubis-MZD6]

all of you have made very valid point. One of the biggest issues with the other cars stated is the look. I'm not knocking any of them at all there are great cars but the look alone is, how can I be nice about this, immature. Why would I change my MS6 for one of them...power. Now is this everything, no. I've always loved the way MS6 looks. Everyone around will sit there, oh here comes another mazda6, until they really look at it. Plus the car has a sophisticated look to her.

I think I just need to get over the power need I guess, especially since i plan on getting married when I get back from Iraq.

I think the biggest part in me wanting to rid her is the lack of performance parts for the MS6. Everyone else has an ass load of parts where we are limited. I guess this is what happens when you mod the heck out of a specv sentra that can give a vett c6 a run for her money. I know that I can't get MS6 like that...I guess it kills me to know that I guess.

However, I must say thank all of you. After sitting her for almost six months thinking to either trader her in or keep her was a waste. Yeah, you guys are right, there’s one thing that the others do not have...the best of both worlds...luxury and power.

Hey I know I don't post much on her and believe when I said that I researched like hell on this car, the evo, and sti but keeping her would be my best bet.

Thanks

 

[Killer]

I understand what you are saying but the part that kills me is, I want 400whp out of the car.

You bought the wrong car. Plain and simple.

 

[LoresonDE]

sell the car then.

 

[mazdaspeedster3]

all of you have made very valid point. One of the biggest issues with the other cars stated is the look. I'm not knocking any of them at all there are great cars but the look alone is, how can I be nice about this, immature. Why would I change my MS6 for one of them...power. Now is this everything, no. I've always loved the way MS6 looks. Everyone around will sit there, oh here comes another mazda6, until they really look at it. Plus the car has a sophisticated look to her.

I think I just need to get over the power need I guess, especially since i plan on getting married when I get back from Iraq.

I think the biggest part in me wanting to rid her is the lack of performance parts for the MS6. Everyone else has an ass load of parts where we are limited. I guess this is what happens when you mod the heck out of a specv sentra that can give a vett c6 a run for her money. I know that I can't get MS6 like that...I guess it kills me to know that I guess.

However, I must say thank all of you. After sitting her for almost six months thinking to either trader her in or keep her was a waste. Yeah, you guys are right, theres one thing that the others do not have...the best of both worlds...luxury and power.

Hey I know I don't post much on her and believe when I said that I researched like hell on this car, the evo, and sti but keeping her would be my best bet.

Thanks

Run that C6 in the winter!