Is FWD really that bad?

FWD?


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drifting to maintain speed???? if that was true F1 would be some sick s*** to watch, but alas drifting doesnt maintain speed, it slows you down and destroys a otherwise clean line threw the apex of a corner. on that note, IM RICK JAMES b****!
 
back in the 70's F1 cars did drift through corners...but then they spent lots of time and money developing better rubber for the tires and there was then no reason to drift anymore
 
twilightprotege said:
back in the 70's F1 cars did drift through corners...but then they spent lots of time and money developing better rubber for the tires and there was then no reason to drift anymore
Haha, yeah man...You remember back in the early 80's what Bridgestone was marketing?...I was just a tiny dude then, but I still remember the commercials about that golfer running the commercials that advertised a "Performance tire that will change the tire industry forever"...They claimed "Flexible sidewalls that grip the pavement"...After a few more years of development, they quickly realize they were a bit off, and those types of commercials are not on anymore...

yeah drifting is the slowest way around a paved corner...and you guys also nailed the rest on the pro's and the cons...
 
Torque Steer Question- Do AWD cars suffer from torque steer at all? It seems to me like they would because the wheels that are turning are getting some power.
 
eting_pro5 said:
Torque Steer Question- Do AWD cars suffer from torque steer at all? It seems to me like they would because the wheels that are turning are getting some power.
hmmm, good question. If there was any TS, can't be much because the rear still gets the majority of the power.
 
03MSP said:
hmmm, good question. If there was any TS, can't be much because the rear still gets the majority of the power.
This depends entirely on the layout of the AWD system...An Audi TT Quattro does not send that much power rearward, for the most part the system can be regarded as mostly FWD...on the other hand an R34 Skyline sends almost all the torque to the rear wheels until traction is compensated, and then routes it to the front to get things moving...

TS can be a problem with a number of AWD cars, but the really aggressive "psuedo RWD" systems (i.e. skyline) suffer more from axle tramp...which is different, but can make full throttle low speed driving a little awkward...just like TS...
 
Torque steer is another phrase for axle windup........ most car makers take care of torque steer by adding a balancer shaft conected to the engine. FWD suffers the worst, I don't think AWD has much problem with it at all.
 
i like RWD better, the car feels MUCH more lively in terms of how you can control the car with just the throttle.

I actually prefer RWD in Gran Turismo than AWD/FWD as well, heh :)

it just feels more natural to me, the dynamics of RWD.
 
AWD will have a much better "feel" because of the fact that it will "sit" into a turn much nicer due to the fact that there is no power to the front/steering wheels. That is the biggest difference really in the end. That you simply can accelerate more in a turn and still have control because you aren't trying to do two things with the same tires (accelerate/steer). And it'll feel more lively because of your ability to control the oversteer a bit easier via the gas pedal.
 
honda tried to make the prelude handle better by adding ATTS, maybe we should ghetto something together to simulate that, but we all know we are pwned by MR
 
Good enough for Lotus, good enough for me. :)

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pr5owner said:
honda tried to make the prelude handle better by adding ATTS, maybe we should ghetto something together to simulate that, but we all know we are pwned by MR
actually, FR is the more 'natural' setup for sporting driving, as it is much easier to achieve perfect 50/50 weight distribution in FR than it is with MR.

MR cars can be driven very fast (see Porsche), but they are tricky to control under that kind of speed.
 
ZoomZoomH said:
...MR cars can be driven very fast (see Porsche), but they are tricky to control under that kind of speed.
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My 914 stuck like a slot car, but once it let go, it was tough to reel it back in. That's a lot of weight swinging around back there. :eek: (I'm assuming you meant 914's because 911s are R/R)
 
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