ipod integration on '09 nav (pics)

jbdiver

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Stormy Blue Mazda CX-9 GT
I had the ipod integration module installed on my 2009 GT w/ nav this morning by the dealer. Overall I'm pleased with the result. The nav unit in 2009 models is different than in older models and the functionality is clearly better.

My aux port and sat audio work fine after the ipod module install. The total install cost for me after parts and labor was around $320.

I can already see some ways to improve the interface. I think ultimately the best way to play music will be using defined playlists. If you have 1000's of songs on your ipod it will be a pain to sift through long lists for a specific song using the nav interface. Personally I usually just pick an album or music genre and set my ipod to shuffle mode.

Here are some pictures of the ipod integration functionality.

The ipod link is now enabled in the nav once the ipod is connected.
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Here's what the nav screen displays while a song is playing.
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when you touch the "music" button you can select from songs, artists, playlists,
genres, podcasts, etc. Nice.
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For example, here is a list of playlists.
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One weakness in the interface is selecting from a long list of items such as artists. It would have been smarter to include an a-z index rather than paging through long lists.
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Here's what the dash information display looks like while an ipod song is playing. Note that the engine wasn't running when I took this pic.
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Here is a song playing while "shuffle" mode is turned on. This is probably useful if you don't have a defined playlist and just want to hear random tracks.
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You can control the track selection via your steering wheel controls. Here is what you see when you change tracks or a new track starts playing while in map mode. As you can see the information isn't very useful.
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The ipod connection cable is located in the glove compartment.
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This is great information for 09 CX9 owners. Now it's time for me to get the ipod module and harness kit. Thanks for providing us with this information.
 
looks good but I use my MP3 connected with AUX it's only 99cent

I hear ya. I won my ipod at a conference so I figured since the ipod was free I could justify the extra expense. I like being able to control song selection via the wheel control. I also like being able to switch playlists and genres easily while driving. Nothing wrong with the aux port.
 
I bought a year too early. This looks really nice. I'm jealous. The dice unit I bought for my 2008 nav was a joke. The controls via the nav didn't work as advertised. I ended up just setting the dice back to iPod control so now I just manually select the songs directly on the ipod. The only advantage though is I can also use apps on my iphone to play music like the new sirius app.
 
I bought a year too early. This looks really nice. I'm jealous. The dice unit I bought for my 2008 nav was a joke. The controls via the nav didn't work as advertised. I ended up just setting the dice back to iPod control so now I just manually select the songs directly on the ipod. The only advantage though is I can also use apps on my iphone to play music like the new sirius app.
 
This is interesting because when I bought my 09 back in April they told me to NOT get the Ipod convertor because it was no good. The dealer had no idea that it was changed from the previous models. I could have added it to my car payment which would have been better.
 
and you get 99 cents audio quality
if you're happy with it, then all the power to you

If the cable transfers the signal well, it will sound as good as the player is capable of. We plug our iPod Shuffle into the aux jack with a basic cable and it sounds fantastic. We also don't need song selection becasue we loaded the Shuffle the way we want it to play. If you want to skip to another song you just press the advance.

I LOVE when guys who have to always buy the expensive thing try to justify it by tearing down the guy who gets it done for less. I'm with you jirathcx9.
 
it's NOT about the song selection

go research the difference in audio quality between the dock connector and the headphones jack.... I'm NOT bullshitting you nor trying to simply justify the extra expense

now if you are already half deaf and happy with the crappy distorted quality out of the headphones jack (due to crappy amp and other cheap electronics), I'm happy for you
 
I'm not criticizing anyone who likes that extra control. I'm defending the rest of us who don't care that much against your insulting and ignorant statement.

I've studied and worked on electronic and acoustic audio reproduction for years, but even if I didn't, I can tell the difference between crappy distorted audio, and sound so clear it sounds like Nora Jones is sitting in the back seat singing.

To correct your statements:

1. A headphone jack feeds audio at reduced amplification to the aural drivers. The Aux jack ACCEPTS headphone level audio FOR amplification and distribution to the speakers by the same amplifier as the other sources.

2. The iPod adapter is the exact same analogue input as the Aux jack.

3. An MP3 player, rather than an iPod, will be more distorted, but I already made that point about sources.
 
insulting? ignorant? did you get sand in your vagina again? somebody call whine one one!

I don't care if you work for apple themselves, you haven't corrected anything to me... more over, your arrogance shows through your response by NOT researching

here, I spent 5 mins for you just to prove my point:
http://homepage.mac.com/marc.heijligers/audio/ipod/engineering/engineering.html
http://members.chello.nl/~m.heijligers/ipod/Performance/measurements.html

headphone jack reduce amplification? haha, very funny... how else is the volume control going to work? black magic? it needs attenuation and a crappy transitor amp for volume control (something not used for the dock connector)... the horrible impedance mismatch (to the radio) from the crappy 1/8" jack doesn't help either... also, try going past 80% volume, and you get massive clipping, and you STILL have to blast the s*** out of your radio's volume just to hear something.... even an audio n00b like me knows impedance mismatches ***** s*** up, and it IS horribly mismatched


the dock connector provides UNAMPLIFIED/UNATTENUATED line output, that means no bulls*** EQ mixing, nothing

thanks for reeducating me about the lossyness of MP3s, but given enough post processing or a good decoder (like the ipod's engine), it can be "good enough"


http://www.hometheaterforum.com/for...classic-as-audio-source-sound-quality-problem


there's a lot more to be found and I know I haven't covered my bases about ipod audio quality, and frankly I don't care... I'm not an audiophile, but I care at the very least my s*** working right... but it is NO mystery that the dock connector is pure line output and the headphones jack isn't... everyone who has ever spent a bit of time reading about ipods know this!

now, if you want to continue going "budget", then I suggest you ditch that 99 cent cable and go buy a dock connector to 1/8" cable (which is still a lot cheaper than an ipod kit) and go knock your socks off at the improved sound quality

now if you can't hear any difference, you're half deaf... sucks to be you!
 
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So you look at a couple of web sites and that makes you an expert. Must be nice to become an instant expert like that. I guess I wasted 30 years of training and experience when I could have read two pages and been as smart as you about audio reproduction.

Enjoy your blissful ignorance.
 
wow, how dense can you be?

I already told you I'm an audio n00b (which means I didn't even say I'm claiming to be an expert when you're trying to make me look like I'm saying I am), I also told you that it didn't cover everything that we're arguing about, and I also I don't care to look further into this (which means I'm done arguing over your arrogance)... why don't you go find out for yourself why it's different instead of just being an asshat saying it's the same... afterall, you're the one that says the headphones jack is fine

but since you said you've been doing this for 30 years, NO offense, but have you considered hearing loss or deterioration? c'mon now, it's part of old age... NO offense... I can hear things my parents can't (and their hearing is still good, they are NOT deaf), and I won't be surprised if I become that way when I'm an old man too... that's just part of life... so like I said, if you can't hear the difference and you're happy with it, that's FINE... BE HAPPY with it... but don't get mad and tell people who can hear a difference and is *really* technically different otherwise (based on your own assumptions and observations without even looking into the matter)
 
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lol

I guess dozens of people on that thread including myself wasn't "hearing things" and trying to "justify" the expensive connection (outie)

30 years of fail or old man fail? hmmm (jerkit)

oh snap! we're not experts so we're not allowed to say anything and this is all cognitive dissonance (inout)
 
So....I take it that there is no way to retrofit this new interface into the unit in the 2008 model?
 
more than likely not since all the electronics involved are basically in the headunit
 
So....I take it that there is no way to retrofit this new interface into the unit in the 2008 model?

No way to retrofit. The nav's are different.

I didn't buy the interface for the sound quality improvement. I bought it for the integration with the nav display and wheel controls. The usability is definitely worth it to me. The slightly improved sound quality is just icing on the cake.
 

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