Fact.... Bigger bushings are more likely to tear. Just ask cpe, awr, su, stock mm's. It will feel nive and soft i'm sure. So did my 2 awr mounts until the shiny red bushings came flying out from under my car. Oh well. Not my problem. My little bushing TRZ mount has handled over 50 launches on slicks and countless hours of steet abuse. When i see that from a medieval mount i'll be impressed.
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INSTALLED: Impressions of the new Medieval Motorsports DogBone Rear Motor Mount
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Oh well. Not my problem. My little bushing TRZ mount has handled over 50 launches on slicks and countless hours of steet abuse.
but not this one
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123735414
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Yes...I am an "owners" of a TRZ mount.
maybe sour grapes b/c the Medieval is cheaper and effective?
just let it go man. if you dont like it, dont buy it or waste your time bagging on it
I'm not pissed in the least bit, I'm still glad I got the TRZ mount. I will say this though to your "bigger bushings" comment. I'm not buying this mount for comfort, I'm going through this trouble and cost to lock my motor in place. If I wanted more bushing material I'd get inserts. We'll see how that MM mount holds up over time, figuring it's so new there's little info to say how it will come out. My guess, like the others with more bushing material, it will deliver a loss in crisp performance when it breaks in. Let's face it, nothing that performs well in the motor mount/trans/driveline/suspension department adds to or mimics stock comfort when your making it bullet proof and performance oriented. It all makes the ride worse but give things back in return.
To further the anger comment, there's many others that do seem to be pissed. If anything I'm slightly amused that so many apply such personal ownership to an inanimate item they didn't make...like I've insulted a family member or something.
If you want the MM mount, by all means get it...I just find it interesting they copied a design.
...and that's really where my point ends.
this TRZ MM didnt
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123735414
Smokehouse
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this TRZ MM didnt
http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123735414
Thanks for pointing that out...identical links in 4 min...way to be efficient.
maybe sour grapes b/c the Medieval is cheaper and effective?
just let it go man. if you dont like it, dont buy it or waste your time bagging on it
Cheaper, yes... Effective, who the hell knows !! They have been on a few cars all of what 5 minutes ? Lets see how they hold up long term wih people that actually race their cars. Lets face it, those who cry about a few vibrations are clearly not the racer type. I'll stick with whats tried, true, and offers more stability. After 500+ TRZ mounts sold there has been 1 single report of issue. And the mount didnt even break ! It was clearly not tightened properly and still managed to stay together. Time will tell i guess. Is cheaper better? IMO in this case, you get what you pay for. A cheap mount is just that.
wow, did you just figure that out.
that is exactly what i stated in my impression. i ddidnt want the TRZ b/c my car is a DD not a race car which is the same way may others feel.
so i stated that this MM is great for performance while remaining comfortable. sorry that we are all cry babies b/c of the big bad vibes
TRZ/PG fanboy chill
its a mount dude. who cares. if you dont like it, sit back, be a hater and see if the mount fails. either way
WHO CARES
that is exactly what i stated in my impression. i ddidnt want the TRZ b/c my car is a DD not a race car which is the same way may others feel.
so i stated that this MM is great for performance while remaining comfortable. sorry that we are all cry babies b/c of the big bad vibes
TRZ/PG fanboy chill
its a mount dude. who cares. if you dont like it, sit back, be a hater and see if the mount fails. either way
WHO CARES
THis says it all.fanboyism is really getting annoying...
fostersafb
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Wow, having fun guys.....
Anyways, back to the reason for this thread. I received a Medieval dogbone mount today. 240ka, did you have any toruble getting the bushing (rear) portion of the mount to fit? For the life of me, I could not get the mount to squeeze in between the two tabs on the front crossmember. I did some emasuring and came up with some interesting figues. The stock mount measures 45mm thick, the TRZ that I am taking out comes in at 46mm and the Medieval is 49mm. I didnt have a chance to throw the calipers under the car to measure the mounting location but I would guess it to be around 47-48mm wide. I'll try again in the morning but it looks as if I will have to sand down the bushings on the Medieval mount in order to squeeze it in there. Any thoughts on this?
Anyways, back to the reason for this thread. I received a Medieval dogbone mount today. 240ka, did you have any toruble getting the bushing (rear) portion of the mount to fit? For the life of me, I could not get the mount to squeeze in between the two tabs on the front crossmember. I did some emasuring and came up with some interesting figues. The stock mount measures 45mm thick, the TRZ that I am taking out comes in at 46mm and the Medieval is 49mm. I didnt have a chance to throw the calipers under the car to measure the mounting location but I would guess it to be around 47-48mm wide. I'll try again in the morning but it looks as if I will have to sand down the bushings on the Medieval mount in order to squeeze it in there. Any thoughts on this?
Wow, having fun guys.....
Anyways, back to the reason for this thread. I received a Medieval dogbone mount today. 240ka, did you have any toruble getting the bushing (rear) portion of the mount to fit? For the life of me, I could not get the mount to squeeze in between the two tabs on the front crossmember. I did some emasuring and came up with some interesting figues. The stock mount measures 45mm thick, the TRZ that I am taking out comes in at 46mm and the Medieval is 49mm. I didnt have a chance to throw the calipers under the car to measure the mounting location but I would guess it to be around 47-48mm wide. I'll try again in the morning but it looks as if I will have to sand down the bushings on the Medieval mount in order to squeeze it in there. Any thoughts on this?
NOOOOOO! dont sand haha. its the size its meant to be
yeah i did. so i just sprayed it down with some Armor all(didnt have any WD-40 around) knocked it in with a rubber mallet and it Went in like a Charm.
just spray something on it that will make it slippery
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john blutarski
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PG fanboyism is really getting annoying...
Anything that has the Medieval title on it gets attacked like a pack of wolves.
nail on the head...
fostersafb
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NOOOOOO! dont sand haha. its the size its meant to be
yeah i did. so i just sprayed it down with some Armor all(didnt have any WD-40 around) knocked it in with a rubber mallet and it Went in like a Charm.
just spray something on it that will make it slippery
Thats a good idea. After thinking about it I realized that it might be difficult to sand something soft like that. Thanks.
Hey man i am just trying to save people a headache. I've warned people after i ripped 2 awr mounts. I gave this same speech about hiw a 2 piece SU and medieval's first mount would fail... They did, in pretty large numbers. I warned about cpe's so-called better than poly, big fat rubber bushings. Gues what... Half of their first batch failed quickly. So now people are jumpin on the bandwagon wanting to make dog bone mounts. Thats fine, but good god, at least do it right. Using a bushing that you have to beat in with a hammer..... Come on now !!!
Hey man i am just trying to save people a headache. I've warned people after i ripped 2 awr mounts. I gave this same speech about hiw a 2 piece SU and medieval's first mount would fail... They did, in pretty large numbers. I warned about cpe's so-called better than poly, big fat rubber bushings. Gues what... Half of their first batch failed quickly. So now people are jumpin on the bandwagon wanting to make dog bone mounts. Thats fine, but good god, at least do it right. Using a bushing that you have to beat in with a hammer..... Come on now !!!
and in regards to PG
im getting turned off by how some of the vendors or people who are in close relation to the vendors of PG act. its getting me to a point i will never buy anything from them
i didnt have to beat the bushing with a hammer lame. i had to lube the bushing a bit and knock the MM into place.
dude go make yourself useful...zip it. you are seriously going to keep me away from PG
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