i'm getting a truck... a big one

Get the Ford, nothing compares look wise, only competition Hp wise is the Titan. Second choice would be Ram, Chevys are the ghey!
 
Or go with the Mazda. I heard Mazda was coming out with one called the 10. It uses the Kia V8..


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thank you mach 3.5. that was beautiful. while reading reviews from various websites/magazines, you seem to be with the majority on all your views. i'm reading and talking to people about the F250. it seems that the 1999 model was the last truely GOOD year for the powerstroke. people have been having problems with the newer powerstrokes namely, 2000+ model years. most of them have engine problems. the 1999 model year owners are pretty happy about their trucks and have little to no problems with their turbo powerstrokes. someone reccommended i look into getting a used 1999. even with 100k on it, that engine is still in it's prime. also, a 1999 crew cab 4x4 runs about 23k, MUCH MUCH easier to get rather than the 04 or 05 that is 2x that price. if i were to wait for the 04 or 05, then i would have to postpone my purchase for a while. the 1999 i could pick up within the next 8 months. but regardless of time, i WILL get a diesel. that hybrid does rock tho... ****.

hmm... i haven't really tried lately, but my car can't clear a 3 foot snowbank. my buddy has a cabin in big bear and we were up there and sho nuff... there was a 3 foot snowbank in his driveway. even his 4x4 explorer couldn't clear it... we got stuck and had to dig out the truck... wasted half a day. while his neighbors f250 fx4 cleared the bank in front of his driveway... quite easily i might add. THAT is what sells me on a 250/2500 series truck. the diesel requirement is to compete with the rising fuel costs. where i get gas, diesel is 2.19 while regular is 2.22. i'de spend LESS with the truck. yeah, ok, given that the tank is like 40 gal and to fill up would be like $60, range on diesels is awesome. also, the lifespan of a diesel is EXTREMELY long. i'm gonna keep this truck.
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Sounds like you're sold on the Ford already. It's a very good truck, but I still have to recommend a Chevy. At least you're not getting a dodge, although I like dodges (just not this one, sorry). If you're dead-set on Fords, I have some advice (just my opinion though). Since you're worried about fuel costs, the 1999 and earlier Fords used a 7.3 Litre diesel V8, while the new ones use a 6.0 Litre V8. Through the miracle of modern engineering, the 6.0 Litre makes more horsepower and torque than the old 7.3, while using less fuel. I'm talking stock, though. There are big mileage gains to be had with the right mods/chips and I don't know much about what does what. There seems to be more modding capability with the 6.0L to me though. It's quiter too, if that means much to you. I like em loud myself. I run open headers right now on my Chevy. There were initial engine problems with the 6.0L, but there were initial engine problems with the 7.3L too. Just don't buy a first run car/truck of ANYTHING. I know I shouldn't be talking since I bought a mazdaspeed, and they have numerous stupid problems since they are also a first run vehicle. Oh well, the exclusivity factor pays off, whereas on a regular production truck this doesn't. Anyway, if you want to get some good info from the guys who run Fords everyday, check out this site:
http://forums.thedieselstop.com/ubbthreads/ubbthreads.php?Cat=&C=2

Again, most of this is just my observations and opinions. Do your research and pick what's right for you. If I had enough cash to get one of these trucks, I'd buy a used one and mod the poop out of it. But that's me. Let us know what you pick. There's more truck support here than you think (it is America after all, and we love dem trucks).
 
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it's weird how nobody ever test drives japanese trucks.. they are pretty good.
namely the nissan titan.. it's massive. i've seen those things haul ass on the street and haul tons of bricks/lumber when I lived in the suburbs (new development, lots of trucks). From what I remember reading, they get better mileage than US made trucks too...
 
Lil Freek said:
it's weird how nobody ever test drives japanese trucks.. they are pretty good.
namely the nissan titan.. it's massive. i've seen those things haul ass on the street and haul tons of bricks/lumber when I lived in the suburbs (new development, lots of trucks). From what I remember reading, they get better mileage than US made trucks too...
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Well, they don't come with a diesel, so I don't test drive them. It's odd that they don't feel that diesels will be commercially viable in the US. Even the US companies feel that way. They sell a diesel PT cruiser in every country but here, and you can even get it AWD. Jeep makes a diesel Liberty that you can't get here too. I've driven them both, and they're pretty freakin good. I'd buy one over the gas cars any day. Hell, some of the stuff for the MSP came from the diesel protege that they don't sell here. Toyota cars are diesel everywhere else, and so are hondas, nissans, hyundais, kias, daewoos, suzukis, BMWs, Mercedes Benzs, etc. Until our gas prices start getting as high as Europe and Asia's, diesels won't be popular here. If things keep going like they have been, we might be seeing more and more diesels being imported and purchased in the US. Just for reference, here's a picture of the prices at a gas station in Munich that I took last September. I know they're a year old, but they're pretty close to accurate. That's all in euros/litre, so to convert for you: diesel costs 3.97 dollars/gallon, 91 octane costs 4.92 dollars/gallon, 95 octane costs 5.01 dollars/gallon and 100 octane costs 5.63 dollars/gallon. Granted, their low grade is 91, but it's still about 2.5 times what we pay for 91 here. So, you can see that buying a diesel in Europe saves you a buck a gallon, where a diesel here saves you about 10 cents if you're lucky. Therefore, no diesels for America, and no Nissan test drives for me.
 

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Well, they don't come with a diesel, so I don't test drive them. It's odd that they don't feel that diesels will be commercially viable in the US. Even the US companies feel that way. They sell a diesel PT cruiser in every country but here, and you can even get it AWD. Jeep makes a diesel Liberty that you can't get here too. I've driven them both, and they're pretty freakin good. I'd buy one over the gas cars any day. Hell, some of the stuff for the MSP came from the diesel protege that they don't sell here. Toyota cars are diesel everywhere else, and so are hondas, nissans, hyundais, kias, daewoos, suzukis, BMWs, Mercedes Benzs, etc. Until our gas prices start getting as high as Europe and Asia's, diesels won't be popular here. If things keep going like they have been, we might be seeing more and more diesels being imported and purchased in the US. Just for reference, here's a picture of the prices at a gas station in Munich that I took last September. I know they're a year old, but they're pretty close to accurate. That's all in euros/litre, so to convert for you: diesel costs 3.97 dollars/gallon, 91 octane costs 4.92 dollars/gallon, 95 octane costs 5.01 dollars/gallon and 100 octane costs 5.63 dollars/gallon. Granted, their low grade is 91, but it's still about 2.5 times what we pay for 91 here. So, you can see that buying a diesel in Europe saves you a buck a gallon, where a diesel here saves you about 10 cents if you're lucky. Therefore, no diesels for America, and no Nissan test drives for me.
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exactly... diesel is beautiful.
 
well I just picked up a nissan titan and it will do everything you just said you need a truck for and more. It has plenty of room in the crewcab version and plenty of power for what you want. I was also considering a diesel but since diesel is as much as mid grade gas here in vegas and even higher in some areas I opted for regular ole gasoline and I love the titan has power like crazy and will handle my 24foot tige just fine.
 
you guys are all debating the merits of saving a few pennies here and there because of the price of the different fuels.. what you really gain is on the amount of fuel it saves you total...

Of course, on a new truck, that diesel motor usually runs an easy $5-6k over the same truck with teh bigger gasoline motor. Unless you really need the power, or drive it 200k miles, it's rough to justify the extra cost... (from a purely financial standpoint... not a "I want it!" standpoint..)

Let us know what you decide... I'm another truck guy here too.. Running a lifted Suburban for now... Next toy will be a powerstroke Excusion (lifted of course)

Do we really need a truck that big? no.. prolly not. Oh well!

*edit - and why teh heck doesn't Chevy offer a diesel suburban anymore??
 
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