I need quick facts on the mazdaspeed protege, HELP me or lose me to saab...sniffle

[Dr.Sound]

true

 

[mp5racing21]

Actually from what I've heard off-lease cars are preferable to buy. You have to be there every x amount of miles for service and you are penalized for abuse. I just bought a Saab 9-5 that was an off-lease car and that thing is in pristine condition, it had all of the service reciepts from day one, just had all of the major things serviced, so I say take it.

 

[wicked]

I'd buy an off lease car,no problem,but a rental,HELL NO!

last rental thast I hade was a jeep liberty,
A-they don't float.
B-the tires are not made for off road
C-they high center to easaly.
D-they do drift well in the rain.

they made the mistake of giving me a black 4 wheel drive



and I know there are others out there that treat rentals a lot worse then me.

 

[livelyjay]

My friend put nitrous on his rental, the equipment was just sitting around and he had the rental for a week.

We took the air intake system off of another one on a trip to Milwaukee (2500 miles in a week).

Not to bash the MSP, but get the SAAB. Good looking car, more comfortable inside, probably better build quality as well.

 

[trbomp5]

You mean Saabaru?

There is no such thing as Saab any more. GM has polluted that sweet Sweed brand.

and hummer, and opel and holden.......

 

[Wha'Happened]

buy the saab.

word.

 

[SP23goesroar]

i just posted a thread called "Stupid Question" about the difference between the 03 and the 03.5 and after reading this thread i dont think i want a MSP anymore. thanks.

 

[wicked]

i just posted a thread called "Stupid Question" about the difference between the 03 and the 03.5 and after reading this thread i dont think i want a MSP anymore. thanks.

it's a hell of a lot better then a focus.

 

[ping]

MSP: Great car, not as bad as some of the select posts above would indicate, I'm at 24k with no major issues save for the reflash, clunk fix (thanks Micaspeed) and a stereo that resets about every 6 months (needed to change stations anyway...). Love the stereo and handling. No cruise available, nor sunroof.

Saabaru: As much as I like my MSP, if I were able to get that discount I'd hit the Saab. Buy that one. Use the stock 16's for snows and put nice BBS 17's on it. The seats aren't as adjustable, the stereo isn't as good, but it's new, under warranty, and Saab dealers will treat you better. I drove one recently and loved it. Get the turbo though.

 

[apocman]

well I would get an MSP anyday. I truly feel a lot of the LSD problems (not all of them) were becuase people laucnhed their cars without after market motor mounts and if you have ever done this you would realize that it is ******* amazing anything would stand up to such a beating.

ECU being a problem? WTF you tell me what car manufacturer designs their ECU's with modifying in mind, I'll tell you almost none of them and if they do you have to have the dealer do it for a price.

The klunk, I had it one time got the new bushings and never had it since and this was in 03, As a matter of fact, I have yet to install my Delsing klunk fix kit becuase i don't have the klunk.

Rods are weak, but so are most cars out there except SRT-4 (which can kick the s*** out most cars on the road with a stage 2 or 3 kit tuned right) They may be ugly, but those fuckers are fast and built like a brick s*** house.

and then you have the other stuff that happens, but I think most other cars have issues as well, we just have a very truthful and vocal community and keep in mind a lot of members blow s*** out of proportion and a lot of times don't know what their talking about.

I came close to buying a Saab once for my wife (Saab equal you suck a cock on a regular basis whether your a guy or girl driving, keep that in mind that most people will refer to you as b**** and booty bandit etc.) and did research and found out, they are in a lot of Saab owners opinions a totaly ******* piece of s***. Even had a guy down the road who had some convertible one I think turbo maybe and it just set there and this thing wasn't old. Well I asked him why it just set there, his answer he was tired of fixing it and it was a total peice of s***!!!

So there you go pretty much you'll find the same information with most cars. Just buy the one you like the most and **** what we all say!!!

P.S. better start practicing with Cucumbers or some s*** if you get the Saab...

 

[apocman]

just to add to that! have you ever seen the response at car meet when there is an Orange MSP there. The bitches (including the models) want to sit on it and play with it and touch it. Their excited about the Orange (get a man laid in 2 seconds, if he wanted too!) MSP as they do the Vipers, Acura NSX's and any other (I paid a **** load more than you type cars)

Try and do that with your Saab and you'll have really polite guys with half tees and daisy dukes on asking "can they touch it" as they wink and giggle with their hands covering thier mouths and giving you and each other (Cum Hither) type looks!!!

 

[apocman]

And just to make things perfectly clear the Ford Focus is one of the biggest (b**** cars) ever made!!! As a matter of fact, your in the same catagory as the Saab, You better get a chasity belt if you ever go to a car meet, but look on the bright side most girls will want to hang out with you (becuase your safe), but they may ask you for hair advice and how to keep a man advice as well...

 

[otmsp]

Saab are Gay!!!!!! (upbum)

 

[Wha'Happened]

yes, buy a car based on how many "bitches" come up to you at a car show!(ugh) Or, if you live in the real world like the rest of us, buy a car based on how good of a daily driver it is or how well it performs, which when it comes to the MSP and the Saab 92-X, the Saab wins hands down. It's nicer, newer, has a better warranty, awd, better interior, faster, better aftermarket etc. ect. Trust me, the MSP handles like a dream and has a good stock stereo (while it lasts) but that's about it. The EJ20 was built to be boosted and will last a lot longer than the FSDE stock or not, not only that the 92-X's make sick sleepers and have a lot more room inside for random stuff that you might need to haul.

 

[apocman]

yes, buy a car based on how many "bitches" come up to you at a car show!(ugh) Or, if you live in the real world like the rest of us, buy a car based on how good of a daily driver it is or how well it performs, which when it comes to the MSP and the Saab 92-X, the Saab wins hands down. It's nicer, newer, has a better warranty, awd, better interior, faster, better aftermarket etc. ect. Trust me, the MSP handles like a dream and has a good stock stereo (while it lasts) but that's about it. The EJ20 was built to be boosted and will last a lot longer than the FSDE stock or not, not only that the 92-X's make sick sleepers and have a lot more room inside for random stuff that you might need to haul.

I see you must be part of the Um! "special crew" (upbum) yes please continue to post in our forum... So many people want to hear about how liberating it feels to drive a Saab or Focus etc. and come out of the closest too...(group)

Golly Exciting!!!(321fu) So are you going to give us advice on proper cock sucking too?(blowjob) Because I want to make sure your not teaching the ladies to spit... I hate it when a women spits please make sure you teach them to swallow UMMMKAYYY!(whip)

I feel there no better way for a lady to express they love you, than by swallowing a big glob of luv juice...(alright)

 

[apocman]

you know I'm just kidding Wha'Happened I just wanted to poke some fun feel free to shoot back somebody has to liven the place up

 

[TX Speed Demon]

Mmmmmmbye!

 

[apocman]

Mmmmmmbye!

Dammit I've been owned.... by one of those you have to know me type owned...(bow)

 

[Wha'Happened]

you know I'm just kidding Wha'Happened I just wanted to poke some fun feel free to shoot back somebody has to liven the place up

no hard feelings at all...
dude, I will admit Saab the brand may not be the most masculine brand around, but the 9-2x is all Subaru. It's a great car. I'm with you all the way on the Focus though. The only decent Focus we got was the SVT. Europe on the other hand(bow)

 

[apocman]

no hard feelings at all...
dude, I will admit Saab the brand may not be the most masculine brand around, but the 9-2x is all Subaru. It's a great car. I'm with you all the way on the Focus though. The only decent Focus we got was the SVT. Europe on the other hand(bow)

hahah! true! (guitar)

I think honestly the guy should simply buy the car he feels right in. It's not going to one of us driving it and he should buy what makes him feel good.