I need help with turbo tune of Protege 5

I have a Mazda Protege 5 turbo @ 7psi, but I have problem with the A / F who works mostly created in gasoline 10.4. What do you recommend for the best A / F ..

I am currently oem injection, regulator spa turbo and Walbro 255.


thanks..
 
11.3 - 12.2 is kinda where you wanna be. What do you use for fuel management? MSP ECU or something else?
 
yeah, 10.4 is pretty bad. i would try another fuel regulator since you have the walbro. the stock fuel system on a walbro pump is kind of bottlenecking the fuel system and nothing is going to seem right.
 
That doesn't make sense. You have the P5 ECU and you're too rich?! You should be too lean instead.. it must be the Walbro pump dumping in the extra fuel. 808mp5 had the same setup as you and his AFRs were about the same up to 4 psi, then would go up into 13-14 range after that. Is that what happens to you or do you see a constant 10 range no matter how much you're boosting?


Either way, I would suggest that you invest in some type of fuel management.. cuz the P5 ECU is NOT meant for boost. When you hit boost, more fuel is dumped in.. and the P5 ECU is programmed to cut the extra fuel in order to keep the AFR's around 14.7. Then go back to the stock fuel pump, cuz like lil_red mentioned the stock FPR doesn't work well with the Walbro.

The easiest method is the MSP ECU, which plugs right in (only if you have 5-speed, will NOT work with automatic transmissions). Or you can go with the SS AFC, it's relatively cheap and easy to install, and allows you to effectively tune your AFRs to an optimal point. A LOT of members here use it.

Another alternative (one I am using because I can't use the MSP ECU due to my automatic tranny) is adding a Rising Rate FPR after the stock FPR. The BEGi 2025 unit is what I use but you'll also need the Flyin' Miata o2 sensor clamp to trick the P5 ECU into not seeing the extra fuel. It's not a very popular choice anymore, but for stock boost (6 psi) and stock fuel pump/injectors it works perfect. My AFR's are 14.7-15.5 under vacuum, and 11.0 - 12.5 while boosting.
 
That doesn't make sense. You have the P5 ECU and you're too rich?! You should be too lean instead.. it must be the Walbro pump dumping in the extra fuel. 808mp5 had the same setup as you and his AFRs were about the same up to 4 psi, then would go up into 13-14 range after that. Is that what happens to you or do you see a constant 10 range no matter how much you're boosting?


Either way, I would suggest that you invest in some type of fuel management.. cuz the P5 ECU is NOT meant for boost. When you hit boost, more fuel is dumped in.. and the P5 ECU is programmed to cut the extra fuel in order to keep the AFR's around 14.7. Then go back to the stock fuel pump, cuz like lil_red mentioned the stock FPR doesn't work well with the Walbro.

The easiest method is the MSP ECU, which plugs right in (only if you have 5-speed, will NOT work with automatic transmissions). Or you can go with the SS AFC, it's relatively cheap and easy to install, and allows you to effectively tune your AFRs to an optimal point. A LOT of members here use it.

Another alternative (one I am using because I can't use the MSP ECU due to my automatic tranny) is adding a Rising Rate FPR after the stock FPR. The BEGi 2025 unit is what I use but you'll also need the Flyin' Miata o2 sensor clamp to trick the P5 ECU into not seeing the extra fuel. It's not a very popular choice anymore, but for stock boost (6 psi) and stock fuel pump/injectors it works perfect. My AFR's are 14.7-15.5 under vacuum, and 11.0 - 12.5 while boosting.

Thanks for the help mine also is automatic and not given any problem to me than that
 
Don't go with the Unichip. So far, the SS AFC and the BEGi & Flyin Miata voltage clamp are the two "successful" ways to tune a 3rd gen automatic turbo. Bazooka_joe and myself have the BEGi FPR and voltage clamp working perfect! A couple guys are currently experimenting with the SS AFC but aren't having such good luck. Flypinoy7 has the AFC and is having similar problems to yours. Read this thread and join the discussion.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?t=123725232
 
BEGi 2025 RRFPR

http://www.bellengineering.net/product_info.php?cPath=7&products_id=4

Flyin Miata o2 sensor voltage clamp (signal modifier)

http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4524&parentid=0&stocknumber=07-46300

That's not the clamp I have, but I don't think they make the older versions anymore. Let them know it's for a Protege and they will let you know if it works or not. If you need help with the installation, see the thread I linked you to earlier. The first post has install instructions for the Protege.
 
BEGi 2025 RRFPR

http://www.bellengineering.net/product_info.php?cPath=7&products_id=4

Flyin Miata o2 sensor voltage clamp (signal modifier)

http://www.flyinmiata.com/index.php?deptid=4524&parentid=0&stocknumber=07-46300

That's not the clamp I have, but I don't think they make the older versions anymore. Let them know it's for a Protege and they will let you know if it works or not. If you need help with the installation, see the thread I linked you to earlier. The first post has install instructions for the Protege.


thanks. We will take into account and I hope that this is the end of headache to me that given the seven ..


asked how many of these psi running and if you have the dyno.
 
I'm at 6 psi and no I don't have a dyno, nor have I taken my car to one yet.

Also, if you plan on going to the track with this car you should definitely upgrade the transmission as well. Lentech Automatics make several transmission components, as well as fully rebuilt transmissions for the 3rd gen Protege. Our cars share the same transmission as the Ford Focus (4F27E in the Focus, FN4A-EL in the Protege), and Lentech specializes in Foci automatics so they definitely know their stuff.

http://www.lentechautomatics.com/4f27eproducts.html

The Street Terminator valve body should be your first upgrade, as it will allow your transmission to shift much much faster and reduce the stress and wear of the clutches. A number of members have this installed already and have reported amazing results. Lentech says it will allow you to get to the 200 HP mark with JUST the valve body upgrade. If you want to go higher than that you will need to forge the internals, and upgrade the torque converter as well. That means lots of $$$..
 
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