I Finnally Did It

[goldwing2000]

Sticker here for the SRT-4 was $21K and the Mazda3 was $20K....so yes that is pretty close.

And as for money I might have!

I see that the uninformed just don't know when to quit.

I see that the arrogant continue digging themselves in deeper.

Was the Mazda3 a 4-door or 5-door? What options were installed on each?

Try www.kbb.com and look up base MSRP prices.

 

[goldwing2000]

Here, I'll even do it for you:

 

[AzMz3]

Read, then re-read agian.
Sticker price for both cars, Mazda3 $20K....SRT-4 $21
You listed the starting price for a base Mazda3s.

No need to take this way off topic trying to justify your uniformed comments.

 

[goldwing2000]

Read and understand:
Sticker price on the two cars you chose to look at is NOT, I repeat, NOT an adequate sample of vehicles on which to make pricing assumptions for the whole country.
If it was your personal criteria for making a decision, fine. You're entitled to keep your blinders on.
Don't expect everyone to follow your narrow point of view.

This isn't off-topic. The entire discussion is about the Neon SRT-4 and Mada3.

 

[fam]

who cares. this is a mazda forum, youve already converted to the dark side and just causing a stir in here. someone lock this thread, ban the user, and get back to mazda talk, if i wanted to gawk at skittles id go on www.srtneonsareforfatteenageboys.com !

 

[mobomelter]

darn that would have been a cool website.

 

[IllBinfrontofya]

Goldwing . . you rock. How dare they compare the prices and say they are close!!! MY FU*KIN ASS THEY ARE! You had it right, even more right then me
Azmz, there have been posts where YOU have been ME or Goldwing, and have mouthed off before not knowing what you are saying. Now, I'm not saying you do it all the time, becuz U do offer VERY good insite and opinons on varius topics that I participate in. But . . . This is one battle you'll lose! The Mazda 3 costs NO-WHERE near the price of the SRT, and with the money left over, you could buy the hiboost kit and some rods, coils, wires and be pushing 340whp and 350+ lbs tq. AND, all that for the BASE PRICE of the neon! So, please just back up and realize that the mazda 3, with the same amount of money put into it, will beat a SRT anyday of the week. Now, when we start talking upgrading big time, and so forth, the SRT will take a mazda 3 straight line ANYDAY!!! But, I'M NOT BUDGING ON THE SRT'S HANDELING!!! No matter how hard you try, stock handeling Vs. Stock handeling . . with the hiboost kit, that srt isn't going to touch me in a twisty race!!! I'm sorry, but I KNOW I'M RIGHT.
GoldWing . . . stand strong Mazda Brethren!!! We will not crumble at the feet of such people!

 

[AzMz3]

Goldwing . . you rock. How dare they compare the prices and say they are close!!! MY FU*KIN ASS THEY ARE! You had it right, even more right then me
Azmz, there have been posts where YOU have been ME or Goldwing, and have mouthed off before not knowing what you are saying. Now, I'm not saying you do it all the time, becuz U do offer VERY good insite and opinons on varius topics that I participate in. But . . . This is one battle you'll lose! The Mazda 3 costs NO-WHERE near the price of the SRT, and with the money left over, you could buy the hiboost kit and some rods, coils, wires and be pushing 340whp and 350+ lbs tq. AND, all that for the BASE PRICE of the neon! So, please just back up and realize that the mazda 3, with the same amount of money put into it, will beat a SRT anyday of the week. Now, when we start talking upgrading big time, and so forth, the SRT will take a mazda 3 straight line ANYDAY!!! But, I'M NOT BUDGING ON THE SRT'S HANDELING!!! No matter how hard you try, stock handeling Vs. Stock handeling . . with the hiboost kit, that srt isn't going to touch me in a twisty race!!! I'm sorry, but I KNOW I'M RIGHT.
GoldWing . . . stand strong Mazda Brethren!!! We will not crumble at the feet of such people!

Man....it is pretty thick in here.
He is right how. I have the sticker and invoice for my car and it is nowhere near $16K

And I really don't know what he means you can't use sticker price? Why not?

And I don't know if you have ever driven a srt-4 before or not, but they handle alot better than a Mazda3. The Mazda3 is too soft and mushy to even compare to the SRT-4. And they now have stock LSD I'm sure that gives them an edge in the twisties too. So I say if you think a SRT-4 can't handle compared to a Mazda3 then you obviously have never driven one in the twisties. Either that or you were scared of it.

And just to humor you even it their was a $5000 difference you still would not touch a SRT-4. Sorry but it will take alot more than just that. But if you wanna start with the base model sure you might look at a $5000 difference. But why compare a base model to a SRT-4, I'll compare the model I have and there is a very very small price gap.
But seriously why can't you use sticker price?

It is cool that you are all about the Mazda3, but you have to be a true enthusis to appreciate other cars for being special and unique....And the SRT-4 is just that. The Mazda3 is a great car, the SRT-4 is a true out the box racer for a killer price.

Appreciate the car for what it is and don't hate. It is always pretty stupid to try to compare an aftermarket turbo car to a factory turbo car. The factory turbo car usually comes out on top in price and reliablity. And with this car you get the benefit of factory support with upgrades.

I love my Mazda. But I think when the time comes to think about a turbo. I will have the $7000 in hand with a printed dyno of a boosted Mazda3 and a booklet of a brand new SRT-4.

 

[fam]

Some Logic:
If i was trying to pick up a girl in a mazda3 she wouldnt think anything about the car...maybe she woudl say the word "cute" now if i pulled up in srt skittle she would scoff to her friends..."i like him but he drives a neon ick. im sOOoOo not gonna be making out in that thing, lets go make out with some girls" ok maybe i exageratted the last part but you get the point.
i heard this in sunday school:
"the reasons those skittles are fast is because after the cobra owners make fun of them they need to get outa there fast!

 

[N2OInferno]

I agree.

Face it, the SRT4 is the dominant force in its class and price range. That's why everyone wants to be better than it. They can't stand the fact that a Dodge Neon is faster than their car. Oh boo hoo. You're as bad as the people saying "BUT AN EVO IS JUST A LANCER!"

If you bought your Mazda to be fast, I'm sorry. You bought the wrong car.

 

[fam]

dominant only on a performance side, you give up looks and money and pride for one of the ugliest cars ive ever seen. I cant help but laugh when i see one, and im not being a prick, im telling you the honest truth, and im sick of dodge talk in a mazda forum, im not jealous of it nor will i ever be (ive been a mustang guy for years until mazda conversion) so if youre looking for respect or kind words youre not gonna get it, and people giving this thing sympathy is pathetic, go flame a dodge forum.

 

[mobomelter]

i still don't understand how anyone can say the srt-4 handles well. are you saying every automobile magazine that has tested the srt-4 and come up with the conclusion "fast in a straight line but bad in the corners" is wrong? bottom line is the srt-4 is simply the fallout of the piece of s*** pt cruiser turbo. its the same engine that was/is in the pt cruiser turbo. bottom line is if you want speed and some handling buy a wrx and smoke an srt-4.

 

[AzMz3]

i still don't understand how anyone can say the srt-4 handles well. are you saying every automobile magazine that has tested the srt-4 and come up with the conclusion "fast in a straight line but bad in the corners" is wrong? bottom line is the srt-4 is simply the fallout of the piece of s*** pt cruiser turbo. its the same engine that was/is in the pt cruiser turbo. bottom line is if you want speed and some handling buy a wrx and smoke an srt-4.

How is the SRT-4 a fall-out of the Turbo PT cruiser. Yes they are a same engine, but the SRT-4 came first. And it is a very solid built engine.
Did ya read that in a magizine too. I have almost ever mag that has a SRT-4 in it and not once did I see that it was bad in the corners.
Bottom line is you haven't even drove a SRT-4, I have!
And the Mazda3 is not a great handling car as most of you think.
So that is how anyone can say that a SRT-4 does handle better than a Mazda3, drive one you will see. If your not too scared of it!

People that just want to flame a car or the person that has it just because they think it is ugly is very pathetic!

As stated many times only a true enthusist will appreciate the SRT-4 for what it is.

 

[N2OInferno]

Looks are an opinion. You can't say "you gave up good looks" if someone likes the looks of the SRT4. I know people that actually think the Pontiac Aztek looks good, but that's ther opinion so I'm not going to tell them they're wrong. Laugh if you want... I guess it'd make just as much sense for me to laugh at every person that I see in a Turbo Cayenne, cause I think they're ugly as sin even though they are a beast of an automobile.. Whatever. Price.. So let's see.. Other cars that can compare performance wise to this car for the money, off the dealer lot.. Only the Ion Redline, Cobalt SS, and the base WRX come close, and even those are slower. Can't vouch for the new Golf or Jetta as I haven't heard mucha bout the 2.0T in them now. I've been in about all of the new cars in this class of vehicle, and I'll tell you right out, if you want nice plush build quality and a great interior with those being your top priorities, buy a VW. If you're sick of the talk, leave the thread alone. Then it doesn't get to five pages like this of people going "omg mazdas rule get out of our board you dodge fanboy" Please.. Give me a moment while I play the world's smallest violin for you.

I haven't seen ANYONE say that the SRT4 is terrible in the corners. And if you pay attention to REAL racing and not magazines, the Neon has always been a contender in SCCA autocrossing, etc.. If you really want to go by magazines, and if it's really a terrible car, why did Sport Compact Car give it the Sport Compact Car of the Year award in 03?

http://www.sportcompactcarweb.com/features/0302scc_neon/

Just wait until the ACR is out and it will be tearing everything apart even more hardcore!

What's so bad about this engine being in the PT Turbo? here's an idea.. Maybe it's a good engine. Maybe that's why they're using it in the PT Turbo!! The PT Turbo is actually a pretty peppy car. Not my favorite but it can definitely get out of its own way better than most competitive cars. Maybe that's why all of the SRT-8 vehicles (Charger, 300, Magnum, Jeep...) are all getting the same 415hp Hemi engine as well too! Because they decided that one engine can go into each of these cars because it's a good engine! It's one thing to not like the SRT4. It's something completely different to belittle someone for buying one. Get over it. You don't like it, tough. Nobody forced you to post a reply, and really the flames do nothing but make you look like assholes. The guy's happy he bought a car, and you try to make him feel stupid.

 

[Mazda3ofKent]

Some Logic:
If i was trying to pick up a girl in a mazda3 she wouldnt think anything about the car...maybe she woudl say the word "cute" now if i pulled up in srt skittle she would scoff to her friends..."i like him but he drives a neon ick. im sOOoOo not gonna be making out in that thing, lets go make out with some girls" ok maybe i exageratted the last part but you get the point.
i heard this in sunday school:
"the reasons those skittles are fast is because after the cobra owners make fun of them they need to get outa there fast!

you do have a point there alot of pepole like how the 3 looks, to out siders of the tuneing world the SRT-4 is just a Neon sad but true, I love both cars actualy I chose the Mazda 3 becuse I have enough speeding tickes on my record allready, with out buying a power house now, so by time the points roll off I will be able to buy the turbo kit for the 3

 

[Mikey444]

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[marineaulu]

The Neon (SRT) may be faster than the Mazda 3.
I don't really care. Who really cares? Really! It takes more than a fast sh*tbox to impress me.

If a guy is all happy because his car is faster than all the others, to me, that does not mean the car is better in any ways. Are we dumb enough to judge a car strictly by its acceleration/speed?

Speed is one thing, quality and comfort is another. And what about look? Whater your priorities are in life. I usually like to find a right balance, which I found the Mazda 3 was offering.

For the Neon, well, yes, it may be fast, but look, comfort, and built quality sucks in my opinion. But hey, some people do like the McDonald plastic chairs! It's their choice, good for them.

Why blaming Neon owners for buying such ?%%&& car, it's their cash, and their taste.

So, when I see a fast sh*tbox smoking by, I'm just smiling! (cheers2)
Cheers.

 

[N2OInferno]

Here's a question. Have you even driven a SRT-4?

 

[fam]

heres another question, who would want to?

 

[fam]

you do have a point there alot of pepole like how the 3 looks, to out siders of the tuneing world the SRT-4 is just a Neon sad but true, I love both cars actualy I chose the Mazda 3 becuse I have enough speeding tickes on my record allready, with out buying a power house now, so by time the points roll off I will be able to buy the turbo kit for the 3

I too would like a turbo kit although id prolly wait for the mazdaspeed and hope they do it right so i can get a warrantee, but its only because i personally would like 100 more hp and 100 more lb feet of torque, its not to race a bunch of ricers (american rice included) its just for my own personal fun.