Hydroxycut Hardcore?

capnsavem

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ok, i know this is brand monkey-spanking new... but anybody researched/triedsamples/heard about it?
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http://www.muscletech.com/PRODUCTS/HYDROXYCUT_HARDCORE/index.shtml

i just stated using Instone Leanfire Inferno v.2, and i like it, but i'm looking for the greatest results possible...
 
uh oh, people are going to yell at you for trying to take the easy way out and for asking about a muscletech product
 
yeah, i figure....

i've never used a muscletech product before, but they're making some pretty beefy claims on this one.... even beefier than before.

haha, its not the easy way out i'm lookin' for. i'm in the gym at least 5 days a week. i'm just lookin' for an "edge"...
 
I don't know about the specifics of the product but it is made from the same company that have bodybuilders in their adds advertising creatine.
I doubt it's anything special.
 
well I clicked that link that took me to the web site in search of the ingredients. I couldn't find a simple list of ingredients but I did get a kick out this statement:

Hydroxycut Hardcore isnt for your mom who wants to drop a few pounds. It isnt for your girlfriend who wants to "get toned." And it definitely isnt for your squash-playing brother who wants to "look athletic." Hydroxycut Hardcore is for you and YOU ONLY. Why? Because youre a real, red-blooded, train-till-you-puke, eat-egg whites-till-youre-blue-in-the face bodybuilder. And like all true bodybuilders, you want the leanest, freakiest physique possible.
 
Witchdoktor said:
I don't know about the specifics of the product but it is made from the same company that have bodybuilders in their adds advertising creatine.
I doubt it's anything special.
true...

i used to use lipo6, but i think my body started to tolerate it, and the effect lessened.... of course, im not a researcher so i cant say that for sure, but it felt that way.

so i took about 2 months off of any fat burners, and now i'm experimenting with Instone Leanfire.v2: Inferno.

i like it so far. i definitely feel an energy burst in the gym, but its a "clean" burst... no jitters. but i'm never satisfied, and always looking for the best products
 
Witchdoktor said:
what's your diet look like cap?
plenty of protien....

breakfast- i'll have plain oatmeal, and an egg white/pb/protein mix/creatine shake (using biopro protein and biocell creatine from global formulas and skim milk)

snack usually almonds and veggies

lunch- tuna on spinach salad with lemon juice for dressing and a protein shake

snack on more almonds and some string cheese (i love it)

dinner- usually chicken breast or salmon and veggies (usually brocolli)

after workout (usually in the evening after work)- protein and creatine shake

plenty of water throughout the day
 
omg. your diet makes my diet sad.

capnsavem said:
plenty of protien....

breakfast- i'll have plain oatmeal, and an egg white/pb/protein mix/creatine shake (using biopro protein and biocell creatine from global formulas and skim milk)

snack usually almonds and veggies

lunch- tuna on spinach salad with lemon juice for dressing and a protein shake

snack on more almonds and some string cheese (i love it)

dinner- usually chicken breast or salmon and veggies (usually brocolli)

after workout (usually in the evening after work)- protein and creatine shake

plenty of water throughout the day
 
well since you're asking about that product which is a fat burner I'll assume you're cutting. If you're serious about results you need to be counting grams and calories.

Even though I'll be owning your avatar after today I'm gonna be nice to you. Here:

The BASICS-
1.Postworkout Nutrition-
Im a firm believer that PWO nutrition is hands down the most important aspect of dieting. It is within the 15 minutes after a workout that your body is in dire need of nutrients. It is a completely anabolic state, and what you take in can be optimized to ensure maximum results. A general rule of thumb is 40-60 grams whey protein, and double the amount of whey in carbohydrates (50% dextrose/50% maltodextrin).

2. Carbs- You are damn right, carbs. In a strict cutting diet the majority of your carbs should come in the form of PWO nutrition, and the remainder in breakfast. Fibrous veggies are a staple, but keep in mind that they dont count towards intake, as they have negligible impacts on blood sugar levels. (Exceptions: Carrots, Peas) All high glycemic carbs outside of PWO should be avoided. The best sources of low GI carbs can be found in oatmeal and brown rice, as well as yams.

3. Protein- You need tons. 1.5-2.0 grams per pound of lean bodyweight is a good general rule of thumb. You should take in a good portion of your protein in the source of real meals, avoid intaking too many shakes, as real food comes to a better benefit. The list foods with high protein bioavailability is extensive, and I will only cover a few, (Egg whites, Lean steak, Chicken breast, the list goes on forever.).

4. Fats- Guess what? You need fat to lose fat. We are talking about the granddaddy of fats, the EFA (Essential Fatty Acid). Good sources of fat are ( Flax Oil, Nuts, Salmon, Olive Oil).

5. The separation of Carbs and Fats- This is a hotly debated issue, but again, in my opinion, an important aspect nonetheless. Remember that it is often when you eat items and with what you eat them that is more important than what you are eating. A mouthful, I know, but stay with me. Remember that when you take in certain carbs, you can spike your insulin levels. If you are taking in fats when your insulin has been spiked, you are allowing the basic laws of physiology to act out, and you allow for a higher propensity for fat storage. Separation is key. The sample diet will give a good example of how to separate them.

6. Supplements-

Glutamine: Helps prevent catabolism when cutting. Best used in dosages of 10grams daily, 5 grams before cardio, 5 grams at another interval, but not after workout as it fights for absorption with the glutamine peptides in whey.
ALA/R-ALA: Gets my supplement of the day award. R-ALA is effective in lowering the spike of insulin when certain carbs are consumed. I could give you a dissertation on the stereoentisomeric properties of the R, but all you need to know is that it has been found to shuttle carbohydrates away from adipose and into myocytes. Translation: Away from fat cells, into muscle cells. Its a supplement, however, not a miracle worker. Its not a crutch, and wont do anything about fat intake. ALA and R-ALA can also aid in the expedition of the ketogenic state. Remember that if you buy R-ALA that you supplement it with Biotin. Glucorell-R is prepackaged with it. If you can afford it, go for it. As far as dosage, with the R, you are looking at 1-2 pills of Glucorell R for each 30-40grams of carb intake.
Protein and Carb Shakes: Im not going to cover protein, because even if you cant afford it, you should sell a kidney to get some. Carb drinks are rather convenient, and companies offer pre mixed dosages, (CarboHit, Glycoload, UltraFuel). Dextrose and Maltodextrin can be bought from most supplement stores or online.

7. Cheating- Cheating is essential. Why? Remember, the body runs on homeostasis, it likes to keep balance. After eating so well after a week, your body begins to adjust, and fat loss over time will not be as rapid. The other extremely important aspect is mental sanity. So many diets crash and fail because people dont give themselves a chance to breath. Remember, cheating is not an opportunity for you to pillage the entire mall food court. Shoot for a cheat meal, not an all out binge. A fast food value meal can be 2,000 calories. Eat that 3 times on one day, and youve consumed 6,000 calories. And thats not good in any case.

8. Cardio- Cardio and cutting usually go hand in hand. I won't go into specifics about length, other than cardio shouldn't be excessive. 45 minutes to one hour daily should be sufficient, and should be performed on an empty stomach.
 
Witchdoktor said:
what's your height, weight, bf%, and your goals ?
5'11"
190lb
bf% is still around 19 (i cant seem to get it down)

my goal is to get cut... i pretty much have the size i want (of course i wont mind if i get bigger :) ) as far as muscle goes... weight doesnt matter to me, because im not trying to "lose weight"...
 
We should make a terbow wants to lose 30-40lbs thread, then when im succesful with the plan i get ill make a flipbook of the stages of loss as inspiration and sell it on here as an amm.
 
terbow said:
We should make a terbow wants to lose 30-40lbs thread, then when im succesful with the plan i get ill make a flipbook of the stages of loss as inspiration and sell it on here as an amm.
lol. nice
 
capnsavem said:
thanks witchdoktor... i'll be easy on you with the avatar pwnage after today. :)

I won't. MUHAHAHAHAHA

the best over the counter supplement for cutting is ECA. ephedrine got banned but it was all political bulls***. you can buy ECA at wal-mart or any grocery store pharmacy section.

E - ephedrine
C - caffeine
A - aspirin

I take it you tried ephedrine before
 
Witchdoktor said:
the best over the counter supplement for cutting is ECA. ephedrine got banned but it was all political bulls***. you can buy ECA at wal-mart or any grocery store pharmacy section.

E - ephedrine
C - caffeine
A - aspirin
yeah, so like how stacker used to have an ECA version.. hence the name "stacker" right?
 
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