Here is another blown motor

they are trying to say any mods done to the car including gauges they will not valid the warrenty but u have to think about it mazda is owned by ford we in some part have american cars so what the hell do we all expect. either way mazda is going to lose and then every one that did bring there car in will get there money back and then some if everyone starts filling law suits aganist them.
 
sorry to hear girl bout the motor!:( well goodluck with everything i;ve been running 8 psi since i got the car which i bought already modded no problems yet.. *** knock on wood
 
1st MP3 in NH said:
I have an RR-FPR and a inline fuel pump that can increase the fuel pressure to over 100 PSi to keep me at any A:F I chose. I also run colder plugs.I also have a wideband O2 that allows me to watch my A:F to be damn sure I am getting the right fuel. Not to mention I had the benifit of having not only corky bell but Flyin Miata's Bill, Keith, ken and all the others totaly map the cars response to boost and dyno tune to know where the car may knock.
5 PSi was deamed safe for an MP3 by Flyin Protege (the same that new the MSp would be smoking engines) and that was on 91 octane. I run 94 only.

So, I had some of the best people in the turbo buisness verify that my setup would be perfectly safe, did you?
Did any of these people with smoked engines?
NO! They simply jacked up there boost levels and nothing more.

This is what I don't understand: Some of you guys who have MP3s and P5s and are running aftermarket turbo system are all down on MSP owners for upping their boost. And you are proud how you can "safely" run 5psi of boost! Ooooh 5psi!! Look out!! Geezus H christ, our MSPs come from the factory running more then that! Plus, you guys get hassle of tweaking your maps constantly to keep up with changing conditions. Hey, lets all get aftermarket Engine Management systems so we get into the never-ending cycle of tuning the fuel maps!! Yeah!! And then there is the plethora of parts you guys seem to need to buy just to run 5psi.

I realize there are others who are running more then 5psi with aftermarket turbos, this is more for the guys who seem to be stuck on the 5psi bandwagon. I'm not trying to bust your guys' balls, but give it a rest. I can turn my boost down to 5psi and run safely forever! But what fun would that be?

Bother Mazda and Callaway said our MSPs would run fine at 6.9psi from the factory. They even gave us a factory warranty to back up the statement.

Lastly, to me, it looks like the biggest mistake Mspeedchica3.5 made was using a FPR on a flashed car (if in fact the PCM had been flashed). A leaner condition due to the Fuel Pressure Reducer, combined with the increased timing of the PCM Flash is not a good combination IMO. But until an analysis is made of the blown engine, none of you internet troubleshooters knows for sure what caused the failure.
 
there was a good issue brought up that i dont think anyone answered... why dont u just put it back to stock then take it to a new dealership??
 
BremertonMSP said:
But until an analysis is made of the blown engine, none of you internet troubleshooters knows for sure what caused the failure.

It was the girl titties they cause excessive vibration and said vibration went down into the motor causing horrific, irreversible engine failure! Maybe your next mod should be a sports bra :p
 
BremertonMSP said:
This is what I don't understand: Some of you guys who have MP3s and P5s and are running aftermarket turbo system are all down on MSP owners for upping their boost. And you are proud how you can "safely" run 5psi of boost! Ooooh 5psi!! Look out!! Geezus H christ, our MSPs come from the factory running more then that! Plus, you guys get hassle of tweaking your maps constantly to keep up with changing conditions. Hey, lets all get aftermarket Engine Management systems so we get into the never-ending cycle of tuning the fuel maps!! Yeah!! And then there is the plethora of parts you guys seem to need to buy just to run 5psi.

I realize there are others who are running more then 5psi with aftermarket turbos, this is more for the guys who seem to be stuck on the 5psi bandwagon. I'm not trying to bust your guys' balls, but give it a rest. I can turn my boost down to 5psi and run safely forever! But what fun would that be?

Bother Mazda and Callaway said our MSPs would run fine at 6.9psi from the factory. They even gave us a factory warranty to back up the statement.

Lastly, to me, it looks like the biggest mistake Mspeedchica3.5 made was using a FPR on a flashed car (if in fact the PCM had been flashed). A leaner condition due to the Fuel Pressure Reducer, combined with the increased timing of the PCM Flash is not a good combination IMO. But until an analysis is made of the blown engine, none of you internet troubleshooters knows for sure what caused the failure.



First off u need through the forum again and make sure u read it right cause i didnt put it on the car my husband did! so dont say i it was my mistake get that s*** Right in ur head. It dont matter Mazda is Owned by ford and we all got shity cars in the proccess no matter what u do the the car our in the whole system seems like the only car that was just put together in a hurry to keep up with every one else but of course all men have the ******* answer and know the problem. U are the just the person the put ur opinion to the matter. been said before so why in the hell repeat what someone said!
 
look at it a good way... for just a couple of grand ur gonna have a beefed up engine and u can run high boost and feel fully confident and u just might end up with the quickest msp of the bunch... kinda makes me wanna rebuild mine :-( ::knock on wood::
 
mspeedpro said:
look at it a good way... for just a couple of grand ur gonna have a beefed up engine and u can run high boost and feel fully confident and u just might end up with the quickest msp of the bunch... kinda makes me wanna rebuild mine :-( ::knock on wood::

Thanks mspeedpro cause some people just dont realize the simple fact that it dont matter that u can do the slightest thing to ur car and it blows up and mazda wont vaild the warrenty! so its mazford that ****** every one else over and trying to get more money. my car on the other hand will be fixed and up and runnin this weekend the only thing i need to get from mazda from now on is parts thats it and barely even that!
Thanks to everyone for the luck and all its greatly apprecicated it shows that some people dont pay attention and then others can be nice.
Have a Great Week Everyone!!!!
 
def opening new ground ont he msp.....if the msp shows the promise i hope to see with my first stage of mods...im def gonna keep goin and build the block...break some new ground in the mean time :)
 
Mspeedchica3.5 said:
First off u need through the forum again and make sure u read it right cause i didnt put it on the car my husband did! so dont say i it was my mistake get that s*** Right in ur head. It dont matter Mazda is Owned by ford and we all got shity cars in the proccess no matter what u do the the car our in the whole system seems like the only car that was just put together in a hurry to keep up with every one else but of course all men have the ******* answer and know the problem. U are the just the person the put ur opinion to the matter. been said before so why in the hell repeat what someone said!

LOL!! Whoa there little missy, why don't you pull your thong out of your ass and get a grip! I don't care if your husband put the FPR on or not.

Yeah, that's it blame Ford! That Evil Giant Corporation just wants to take your money and bend you over! I bet they held a gun to your head and made you buy that Mazda! Yep, blame everyone else for your blown motor. :'(

At first I felt bad that you blew your motor, now I couldn't care less. Sounds like it's going to be an expensive lesson for the both of you.
 
BremertonMSP said:
I realize there are others who are running more then 5psi with aftermarket turbos, this is more for the guys who seem to be stuck on the 5psi bandwagon.

holy s***, you are dumb, you realize that a p5 on 5psi on a BIGGER ****** turbo will make more power then you at 10psi???
yes thats right a bigger turbo makes more power at less boost OMFG NO WAY!!!
 
mp5jeff said:
holy s***, you are dumb, you realize that a p5 on 5psi on a BIGGER ****** turbo will make more power then you at 10psi???
yes thats right a bigger turbo makes more power at less boost OMFG NO WAY!!!

yeah i think when vic dynoed at 245 whp with an auto at 10 psi proved that. thats why i didnt by an msp, its cheaper better and more power to buy a protege and slap on a aftermarket.

but hey, my buddies have them and i like them.

hell i dynoed at 185 with only 2 cyl and 6-7 psi and ran so rich the af wideband on the dyno didnt go that low. not bad huh.


sorry to hear man. yeah our motors dont like UDPs, that was figured out ALONG time ago.
 
itll be done this weekend?? what are you planning on doing bout the engine?? used block, etc? parts will get here that fast?
 
Dude you dont need a complete motor....and you definitly don't need a new cylinder head. Unless the piston came up and slapped the valves and head. Go get a junked block, hone that b**** and be done with it.

I am so glad I am a mechanic.

By the way post ******....I work at ford, and do we turn work down? Nope. Thats why our lot is packed and the fags at mazda have no one there. Ford allows customers to modify there cars also though because they can take it. I have seen mustangs come in with many different problems. Some still have the nitrous installed and working...:) (burnout) Test drive! Seriously the design of the car is not flawed. I bet mazda toned down alot of things from what it originally was at callaway.
 
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