Hehe and you guys thought we were done...

[DSMConvert]

Well we've still got a few suprises up our sleeves...next on the list due out fairly soon...new intercooler options. We've done the research and the R&D so now it time to see which you guys want... Descriptions are below for each of the intercooler projects we're considering releasing...both will be in the ballpark of $650 to $750...

Air to Air:
Well we all know how these work and what they look like so no description needed.

Air to Water:
Pick your jaw back up! This will be an inline(basically giant pipe) air to water intercooler system complete with front cooler, pump and hoses. At idle and traffic situations the air to water registered an average of 20 degrees colder temps.. 55mph travel netted a 5-7 degree difference over a standard air to air intercooler...now the biggest difference...after several track runs the air to water A. registered 20-30 degrees colder temps directly after run, and overall temps took half the time of the air to air to return temps back to stock(prerun) levels. The downside, no flashy fmic to show off, honestly I kinda like the fmic look. Also will take up a little more of your engine bay room as it is a fairly sizable pipe and requires sending and return lines (3/4") to a pump and he front cooler.

OK well thats the jist...so its up to you guys on which one we come out with...

 

[casper]

That's good ****** news. Bravo!

 

[noclue119]

That's good ****** news. Bravo!

air to air please.. just because water = weight

 

[RyanJayG]

well there are like 6 other air-air FMICs. I say be different.

 

[Pretzellogic]

well there are like 6 other air-air FMICs. I say be different.

Yup yup. Try something new and see what happens.

 

[Tommy1005]

I'd like to see the air-water......would it be where we could put some ice or dry-ice in it at the track, or would it be sealed?

 

[gboromsp]

Air to air for simplicity sake. If you make it I will buy it. The afc is in and doing well.

 

[Ryoga28]

any good references about air to water intercooling in cars?

 

[spacemonkey]

Orangezoom has air-to-water innercooler. From my understanding air-to-water works good with drag racing. but air to air is a betst all round performer...form what I heard...maybe completely wrong.

 

[EvilMSP]

I like the air to air that allows for a radiator upgrade. It seems like everyone that allows that costs a ton .

 

[noclue119]

I like the air to air that allows for a radiator upgrade. It seems like everyone that allows that costs a ton .

ya and no cutting of anything please.

 

[RyanJayG]

there are already fmic's that require no cutting. I personally think he'd do better making a air-water ic, than yet another air-air intercooler

hell, I cant even use it as I dont have a MSP, but I honestly think he'd get more business that way. depending on the heat exhanger used an air - water intercooler will perform better than air - air. its just not as flashy so everyone wants air - air

 

[Tommy1005]

I want it to work at the dragstrip, so thus my vote for the air-water.......that's what I'm concentrating on

 

[jurgs01]

I already have an IC so I'm not in the running to buy one, but air to water sounds intriguing for those looking to go higher with boost and generate more heat.

 

[MSP2NV]

i'd buy an Air to Air if he made one. I bought his hard pipes, and i was very happy with them. They were to hold me over until he made an IC. Now that it'll be out soon. I def want the Air to Air. But to each his own. A-A FMIC gets my vote.

 

[rocketspeed]

A nice SMIC matched up to your hardpipes as a package would be cool.

 

[Mr. Win]

air-water would be the best i think... i love the sleeper look and i think it may turn out even cheaper.

 

[jeffmsp]

the water to air IC would be a great option if it could work in conjuction with an aftermarket SMIC, then SMIC owners would not need to look into a new FMIC setup if they eventually want to run higher boost than a smic can take. BTW isnt there anything better than water you can use in the cooler? like methenol or some other chems that cool better than water?

 

[Mr. Win]

why would you use a SMIC and a water to air?

the water to air IC would be a great option if it could work in conjuction with an aftermarket SMIC, then SMIC owners would not need to look into a new FMIC setup if they eventually want to run higher boost than a smic can take. BTW isnt there anything better than water you can use in the cooler? like methenol or some other chems that cool better than water?

 

[RyanJayG]

too much pressure drop with 2 IC'sespecially when still using the poorly designed stock one.

also water is the best http://www.koolance.com/technical/cooling101/002.html but you would run into problems with bi-metal systems (copper cooler, and aluminum IC) and also winter freezing issues.