Heartattack!

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I am so sad right now as I write this at 240am. I just got back from a 400 mile trip in my MSP and there is something terribly wrong with it. We were on the way home and I stopped to get some gas. After I jump back on the highway and start to accelerate and notice its very sluggish, I can hear the turbo spooling but no boost. So I shift into third and the same thing but now the power is even less. It feels like when you are trying to accelerate when the car is out of gas, it actually decelerates. Then all of the sudden the car starts bucking as I am trying to accelerate and the turbo is screaming this awful sound. I am like HOLY s***, WTF is wrong with my car!?!?!?! I pull over and my roommate and I are tripping the **** out. I idle the car for a minute then shut it off completely. I start her back up and hit the road again, same thing, she starts bucking like she in a ******* rodeo and wants to stall out. This was all happening when I hit about 4000-4500 rpms. I had to drive 60mph the whole way home, it took like an extra hour because of this. Now I have to reinstall my airbox back into the car and take it to the dealership so they can try to tell me they can find anything and I end up beating the crap out of the guy. Anyone have any ideas what might have caused this occurance?
 
i highly doubt the K&N has ANYTHING to do with it....sounds to me like the power wasnt getting to the wheels or something like that, something with the transmission...or limited slip...just throwin out ideas
 
did they put in the right gas? maybe they put regular in your tank instead of premium. I don't know if it would make that big of a difference but it might.
 
not saying you are dumb, but could you have by any chance put in diesel ? Coz my friend accidently did that and his car sounds like what is happening to yours. But good luck at the dealership.
 
well the gas we are getting in the us right now and for the past 6 months is only good for about 30 days or so .. and if that gas was old it becomes stale and your car will totaly screw up like that ... and it also could be a clogged injector .. damn i am at a loss too not to sure ,.... damn i hope you didnt put desil in it .. at a truck stop ..lol ... well bud i hope they fit it and tell them your bulls*** and get some free s*** out of them lol .. also if you left your gas cap off maybe the car has one of those finicky fuel pumps and needs pressure to send the fuel so with the gas cap off it may have not been able to ..., um a vacum line could cause that .. ok im done guessing
 
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It seems like fuel problems.

If the turbo has problems spooling up, maybe u are having fuel problems since the begining. Is there is not enough fuel to ignite, then no exhaust gas for the turbo to spool up.

So be carefull, I have seen those "drying-problem" scenes with other cars and is very harmful to the engine.

If not maybe it could be a damaged turbo or ECU problems...
 
Usually the pump that puts out diesel is to big to fit in the hole of a standard unleaded gas tank.
 
You know, I had a similar problem with my '94 Taurus SHO. I went on a 300 mile trip, and on the way home that evening, my car started to buck like mad at 4k-4.5k; I kept it below that, and got it home ... slowly. The next day it happened at lower revs. Then lower, and lower. Finally I got my car into service, and it turned out that my O2 sensors were bad and some gas got into the catalytic convertors.

Don't know if that could be the same issue or not, just throwing it out there.

- John
 
May have been water in the gas. But since you drove home I doubt it.

Happened to my father-in-law, filled up his truck but the stations tank of gas was almost dry except for a foot of water floating on top of the gas, got 500 feet down the road before it quit.

Good luck with whatever the problem is.
 
Did you oil your K&N filter excessively? If you did, some oil may have gotten through the filter and got stuck on the O2 sensor causing it to misread that amount of air going through.

But it seems most likely that it's the gas. What station and which grade did you get?
 
oh man, 99% of you guys have no idea what your talking about and u really shouldnt be giving advice

from my own experience what your saying sounds alot like you venting boost and running rich. what is most likely to have happened is your BOV either has failed and stuck open or one of your turbo pipes has either slipped off or cracked. since these cars are equipped with a maf sensor any venting of boost under throttle will cause a very rich condition in the engine and the car will buck and stumble just like you stated with a severe power loss.

what you have to do is take the car out and have a friend follow you... give it gas until it begins to stumble in 2nd or third... let it stumble for about 3 seconds and then ask your friend if he saw black smoke coming out of your tailpipe. if yes then come back on and ill tell u how to correct this... good luck

oh by the way... this stumbling will not hurt you car
 
Sounds like diesel to me... Especially on those highway gas stations with all the trucks and stuff going there god knows what happened.
 
MSpeed said:
oh man, 99% of you guys have no idea what your talking about and u really shouldnt be giving advice

from my own experience what your saying sounds alot like you venting boost and running rich. what is most likely to have happened is your BOV either has failed and stuck open or one of your turbo pipes has either slipped off or cracked. since these cars are equipped with a maf sensor any venting of boost under throttle will cause a very rich condition in the engine and the car will buck and stumble just like you stated with a severe power loss.

what you have to do is take the car out and have a friend follow you... give it gas until it begins to stumble in 2nd or third... let it stumble for about 3 seconds and then ask your friend if he saw black smoke coming out of your tailpipe. if yes then come back on and ill tell u how to correct this... good luck

oh by the way... this stumbling will not hurt you car

well then my BOV sucks...because my car will buck and stumble sometimes when im trying to accelerate hard, over 4000 RPM in like 2nd or 3rd gear...i thought it was the tires not getting enough traction, but maybe from what you say it could be the BOV
 
its not the tires dex!

hmmmm you sure you put your maf and temp sensor in corectly when you put on your k&n filter?

I dont think its the bov because if it was stuck open wouldnt it just vent back into the intake?

hmmmm you said your turbo was making a bad noise like what was it hissing like normal? or was it making some other kind of noise?

it could be that your cat has broken up and blocked off your exhaust but I highly doubt it on a new car like that

fI I were to guess it would have to do with the fuel delivery or computer but it could be 100 other diffrent things good luck man!
 
how many miles are on the car? From my own experience, one of the plugs to the intake manifold could have been plugged in the wrong port.
 
Well the problem has seemed to resolve itself because I went to take her for a test drive this morning to see is she would still do it and everything was cool :confused:
I actually thought I may have put in deisel when it happened but I check my receipt and it said premium so I dont know what the hell happened. I am going to bring it in on monday and have them check it out...
Thanks for the help guys
 
loose hose?

This sounds similar to what happened to my '87 SAAB SPG a few years ago. After a night of super hard, fast driving through the mountains east of Seattle, it started idling really rough and coughed and sputtured its way through my commute the next day. Turned out the hose running from the intercooler to the turbo had come loose. Clamped it back on, ran perfectly after that.(wiggle)

BTW... the new issue of Automobile magazine has a four-way comparo involving the Mazdaspeed Protege (placed last, followed by the Mini Cooper S, Focus SVT and the Neon SRT-4 coming in first). They note that "We've now driven two Mazdaspeed Proteges that have died temporarily becuase of a flimsy hose clamp that connects a duct to the bottom of the turbocharger's intercooler. As the duct heats up, the clamp can loosen." Sounds like a chronic problem with the car. You might want to see if this happened to you.
 
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seatown.P5 said:


BTW... the new issue of Automobile magazine has a four-way comparo involving the Mazdaspeed Protege (placed last, followed by the Mini Cooper S, Focus SVT and the Neon SRT-4 coming in first). They note that "We've now driven two Mazdaspeed Proteges that have died temporarily becuase of a flimsy hose clamp that connects a duct to the bottom of the turbocharger's intercooler. As the duct heats up, the clamp can loosen." Sounds like a chronic problem with the car. You might want to see if this happened to you.

That little report - 'Automobile magazine'; makes me sad....... the only other one of those cars, I 'even' considered was the Cooper S.

It doesn't matter though: I LOVE MY MAZDASPEED!!!
 
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