Group Buy: 505 Intake Manifold Round 2

[Ricktalife]

850 for coating, 800 without. The options are posted a few pages back with pics of each.

 

[jdwk]

Yeah that's the problem with forums. It's often really difficult to find the most up to date information. Also, searching leads to a bunch of inane posts that may or may not have anything to do with what you want. Of course, if I had a better way of doing it, I'd have done it already and been bought out by Vbulletin for a few million.

 

[Ricktalife]

Yea and you could set THEM up on a payment plan HAH.

 

[Spiced MSP]

ready to send a deposit but unfortunately paypal says that they need to call me in order to verify that I own the account and since I'm currently deployed, my phone service is suspended until I return home next year. I'll send the deposit once paypal returns my email regarding an alternative method of verification.

 

[destineal]

Can you call them from over there? If so, they can take care of the problem in a matter of minutes.

 

[Spiced MSP]

problem solved, deposit sent!!!



1. Ricktalife - (EGR yes) coated black *DEPOSIT PAID*
2. Tzar177 - (EGR yes) - coated flat black *DEPOSIT PAID*
3. protegebuddy - (EGR yes) - coated *DEPOSIT PAID*
4. jbrewer4639 - (EGR yes) - uncoated *DEPOSIT PAID*
5. Justanothermp5 - (EGR yes) - coated *DEPOSIT PAID*
6. J_Naoto - (EGR yes) - coated extreme chrome *DEPOSIT PAID*
7. Amdeus - (EGR yes) - coated black *DEPOSIT PAID*
8. theEZV - (EGR yes) - coated black *DEPOSIT PAID*
9. needmspspeed - (EGR yes) - coated gloss black
10. Spiced MSP - (EGR yes) - coated black *DEPOSIT PAID*
11. Iggypop - (EGR yes) - coated
12. fuadmsp - (EGR yes) - coated
13. scmp3 - (EGR yes) - coated
14. Destineal - (EGR yes)
15. Outlawstar98 - (EGR yes) - coated extreme chrome
16. ricky - (EGR yes) - coated
17. boostdprotegelx - (EGR no) - uncoated
18. paniaguae640 - (EGR yes)
19. Silverspeed2015 - (EGR yes) - coated black
20. Youngblud - (EGR yes) - coated black
21. msp2003.5_nick - (EGR no) - uncoated
22. 03.5MSP - (EGR no) - uncoated
23. 95blkprobe - (EGR no)
24. YellowMazdaPR5 - (EGR no)
25. 719prottege - (EGR yes) - coated black
26. turboj1 - (EGR no) - coated black
27. cleverfrog - (EGR yes) - uncoated (partial dep. paid)
28. mspHtown - (EGR yes)

 

[Protegebuddy]

Woo hoo!! Only $350 left for me. Anyone else closer to the goal? (thumb)

 

[jbrewer4639]

got a little sidetracked so I still owe 500 until fri. I want the 850$ option/erg and coating

 

[Ricktalife]

My car insurance jumped in front of this, so I'm stuck where I am for now.

 

[SCMP3]

I blew my turbo seals before I could pay the deposit. Sucks ass.

 

[jdwk]

I just might take someone's manifold off their hands once it is in physical form for a discount. $800 is just a tad steep for me to spend on my eight year old car that has turned visiting dealerships and scanning autotrader into a past time for me.

 

[justanothermp5]

lol i can guarantee that nobody is going to sell theres for a discount, if anything its going to be more expensive after the group buy

 

[505zoom]

1. Ricktalife - (EGR yes) coated black *DEPOSIT PAID*
2. Tzar177 - (EGR yes) - coated flat black *DEPOSIT PAID*
3. protegebuddy - (EGR yes) - coated extreme chrome *DEPOSIT PAID*
4. jbrewer4639 - (EGR yes) - uncoated *DEPOSIT PAID*
5. Justanothermp5 - (EGR yes) - coated *DEPOSIT PAID*
6. J_Naoto - (EGR yes) - coated extreme chrome *DEPOSIT PAID*
7. Amdeus - (EGR yes) - coated black *DEPOSIT PAID*
8. theEZV - (EGR yes) - coated black *DEPOSIT PAID*
9. Spiced MSP - (EGR yes) - coated black *DEPOSIT PAID*
10. needmspspeed - (EGR yes) - coated gloss black
11. Iggypop - (EGR yes) - coated
12. fuadmsp - (EGR yes) - coated
13. scmp3 - (EGR yes) - coated
14. Destineal - (EGR yes)
15. Outlawstar98 - (EGR yes) - coated extreme chrome
16. ricky - (EGR yes) - coated
17. boostdprotegelx - (EGR no) - uncoated
18. paniaguae640 - (EGR yes)
19. Silverspeed2015 - (EGR yes) - coated black
20. Youngblud - (EGR yes) - coated black
21. msp2003.5_nick - (EGR no) - uncoated
22. 03.5MSP - (EGR no) - uncoated
23. 95blkprobe - (EGR no)
24. YellowMazdaPR5 - (EGR no)
25. 719prottege - (EGR yes) - coated black
26. turboj1 - (EGR no) - coated black
27. cleverfrog - (EGR yes) - uncoated (partial dep. paid)
28. mspHtown - (EGR yes) - coated extreme chrome

 

[Ricktalife]

Yea these things are too rare to not hold their value.

 

[mspHtown]

deposit sent.

 

[mazdaspeedp]

When will these start to be made? Put me on the list

 

[Spiced MSP]

they are expected to be done later this month. If you want to be added, add yourself to the list by copying and pasting the MOST RECENT list and adding your name, EGR option and coating option.

 

[Cleverfrog]

sent another partial. I'll finish my dep in two weeks.

 

[pomidor]

The power gains claimed are nice, but, where in the power curve do they take place?

Sorry, I'm not in the mood for scanning 27 thread pages to see something I'm looking for that might or might not be there. Is there a Dyno chart from before and after, for a stock-boost (or any, for that matter) MSP?

 

[jdwk]

I spent a ton of time finding this. I am actually kind of ashamed of myself, but I bookmarked it and also saved the photo to my pc.

http://www.mazdas247.com/forum/showthread.php?123691754-505-Intake-Manifold-COMPLETED!&p=5644663&viewfull=1#post5644663

This picture shows a 33 whp and 32 wtq gain, which is absolutely phenomenal and totally worth $800, but dyno's are not very trustworthy. What's particularly odd about this picture is torque drops off like a brick at 5.5k rpms. If he let off the throttle it would completely disappear (I've done a few dyno runs of my own), so it appears the tuner let off the throttle just a bit or there was some other tuning malfunction. The question is why. And then if he did let off, he appeared to to do the same for the stock IM but about 200 rpm earlier, so it's hard to take this graph seriously. The only thing we can say for sure is the area under the curve is better on the 505.

The best gain seems to be around 4500, but then what is the difference between the blue and red line and why does the red line take a massive dip there? Too many variables, too many questions.

That definitely seems like serious gains, but I think most of these gains are from removing the butterflies and chamber walls of a stock intake and giving the throttle a straight path to the engine, when it needs to flow most.

After spending a very regretful amount of money on a dyno on my C6, and seeing drag strip results that did no correlate, I switched to drag strip only tuning. I simply don't trust dyno's. There are too many variables, too many liars, and not enough airflow to truly emulate a real world situation.

It looks like 505 has a nice product, and I've put a lot of thought and research into it, but I think I'll hold off on this.