global warming

[joesturbo]

humans have had a big impact. We've cut the trees and covered a big part of the surface of the earth with asphault, conrete, and glass. The Earth does have cycles, but as you said, we seem to be helping speed things up.

More dis 0r mis information... We now have more forest land then ever before... period. The reason is because for the first time ever man has been able to control forest fires, which in the past has burned forests faster then they could grow. Want to talk about pollution and global warming how many forests burned in the past that are not burning today?

 

[Kansei]

More dis 0r mis information... We now have more forest land then ever before... period. The reason is because for the first time ever man has been able to control forest fires, which in the past has burned more forests. Want to talk about pollution and global warming how many forests burned in the past that are not burning today.

That's good to know. Maybe at least on the wood side of things we can sustain, until we discover that wood is the perfect way to fuel a HEMI.

 

[joesturbo]

she has done research and written peer review papers. I am not someone who just agrees with every professor, but in this case I do.

Oh, ok so she does have an agenda? Just something to think about, her views may have some valid points but they also could lead to many conclusions...

 

[joesturbo]

That's good to know. Maybe at least on the wood side of things we can sustain, until we discover that wood is the perfect way to fuel a HEMI.

Ya, lol how much for that premium oak? And what is the octane rating again over the pine?

 

[vindication]

Oh, ok so she does have an agenda? Just something to think about, her views may have some valid points but they also could lead to many conclusions...

I agree, but every scientist has an agenda, it's what makes them want to do research in certain fields.

 

[Fear]

And shoot it up into space with an electric jet or something? I bet someone has thought of this but the environmental impact of sending a load like that up into space and of constructing the craft to do it and all the fuel (crazy amount of fuel) would probably outweigh any benefit.

twas a joke, son.

 

[buttthrax]

That's good to know. Maybe at least on the wood side of things we can sustain, until we discover that wood is the perfect way to fuel a HEMI.

I read about a guy who converted an old Chevy truck to run on wood. No joke, it was a WWII era thing that he put in the back of the truck bed and the smoke was used as fuel to run the motor.

Well, this should explain it. I found the article.....:

http://www.motherearthnews.com/library/1981_May_June/Mother_s_Woodburning_Truck

 

[case sensitive]

That's good to know. Maybe at least on the wood side of things we can sustain, until we discover that wood is the perfect way to fuel a HEMI.

ethanol can be had from wood.

A much better option is to run all the diesels on biodiesel.

My jetta runs bio when I can find it. If I run 100% biodiesel (when I can), and use Group 4 synthetic oil (always), I'm using 0% foreign oil, and almost 100% renewable fuel. None of the hybrids can say/beat that. Plus emissions are much less harmful.

 

[GrandBelialKey]

anybody ever seen a huge pile of tires on fire ? that can't be good for the environment...

 

[sanblaster]

^^ Wow, that is terrible.

 

[Fear]

anybody ever seen a huge pile of tires on fire ? that can't be good for the environment...

What about volcanic eruption? I wonder why no one ever talks about THAT aspect of CO2 release.

 

[GrandBelialKey]

I think the matter is - what is preventable and what isn't...

when people b**** about the environment, they're usually bitching about things that could be avoided.

 

[Fear]

I think the matter is - what is preventable and what isn't...

I do my part by running catless, and WOT as much as possible.

 

[jred321]

ethanol can be had from wood.

A much better option is to run all the diesels on biodiesel.

what happens if every car was switched to ethanol or biodiesel? it needs to be grown somewhere and takes up a lot of space. then the hot topic of the month/year becomes how ethanol/biodiesel companies are clear cutting forests and they're going to wreck the environment and end the world because they're using all of the nutrients in the soil

 

[GrandBelialKey]

I do my part by running catless, and WOT as much as possible.

I don't do s***. I just churn the maelstrom...

 

[Kansei]

what happens if every car was switched to ethanol or biodiesel? it needs to be grown somewhere and takes up a lot of space. then the hot topic of the month/year becomes how ethanol/biodiesel companies are clear cutting forests and they're going to wreck the environment and end the world because they're using all of the nutrients in the soil

Ethanol is sustainable in Brazil or so I have heard. Too bad there's big tariffs on importing ethanol from there.

What are we using the middle of the country for anyway? Let's cover it with corn crops.

I would love to switch to a clean burning diesel (at least one with nice power, not like the pathetic manual tranny 97 Passat TDI I've driven).

 

[jred321]

Ethanol is sustainable in Brazil or so I have heard. Too bad there's big tariffs on importing ethanol from there.

then it becomes save the rain forest and we're killing the earth that way

What are we using the middle of the country for anyway? Let's cover it with corn crops.

well i could be wrong but i don't think we just throw out everything they grow there, so if we switch to growing corn it'll just displace the other crops and we'll be creating new problems with whatever is displaced. also i would imagine if everyone switched to ethanol the midwest would have a tough time supporting the great demand it would create

I would love to switch to a clean burning diesel (at least one with nice power, not like the pathetic manual tranny 97 Passat TDI I've driven).

i would too, but if everyone does, then it just creates a whole new set of problems and it is not an all encompassing solution

 

[Kansei]

then it becomes save the rain forest and we're killing the earth that way

well i could be wrong but i don't think we just throw out everything they grow there, so if we switch to growing corn it'll just displace the other crops and we'll be creating new problems with whatever is displaced. also i would imagine if everyone switched to ethanol the midwest would have a tough time supporting the great demand it would create

i would too, but if everyone does, then it just creates a whole new set of problems and it is not an all encompassing solution

Not that there are many stations outside of the midwest for E85, but running E85 in a FlexFuel vehicle reduces the fuel mileage by about 30% IIRC and it costs more. As of right now there isn't much demand for it here, especially since we can't easily get it outside of the midwest since it can't be transported in pipelines.

I think it's great that we can discuss things like this on this forum. Yeah, it does relate to cars but it's still nice to be able to have a nice informative discussion. I know I've learned some things.

 

[buttthrax]

anybody ever seen a huge pile of tires on fire ? that can't be good for the environment...

Awesome picture.

 

[MinivanHunter]

has anyone else had a chance to read the newest issue of time magazine? it has a very interesting article on global warming and the changes we could see in our lifetime.

I have read the Newsweek magazine that had an article about Global Cooling and is described the cooling trend that we would see in our lifetime. It pointed to ominous signs that the Earth's weather patterns have begun to change and pointed to a drop of half a degree Fahrenheit in average ground temperatures in the Northern Hemisphere between 1945 and 1968.