GI : Big Brake Upgrade

Yeah, that's what I was thinking, too... I know the 929 rims still leave a good deal of space around the stock caliper/rotor combo, but probably not that much. Hehe.
 
This is something that would look great behind a set of 18 inch wheels, right? I have the 1.6 with rotors up front and drums in the back. What would you be able to do for us, well me in particular??
 
went for a spirited drive saturday...and FINALLY i experienced brake fade. after about 10 minutes of heavy braking, down hill, slowing down from 140kph + at times to 20kph numerous times i experienced brake fade in the last 30 seconds. and still, this is with stock series 6 rx7 pads (not performance pads). and my rear brakes were smoking when i eventually stopped

happy? oh yeah.
 
Whats the update? Did you get the drums for the 1.6 liter test fitted yet? Is this Big Brake kit going to work behind my wheels?
 
unfortunately at the moment this may be put back a little. my mother isnt well at the moment.

but drums for the 1.6? huh?

behind your wheels? i have no idea. all i know for certain is that they fit behind the stock BJII protege5 wheels
 
Well I am very interested. I am looking for a brake upgrade, and rotora, is way to spendy right now, and RR doesnt seem promising. Thanks man for all the hard work, and I hope your mother gets much better.
 
mum is doing pretty well thanks. still in hospital though.

anyway, the brakes. i will have some time shortly to really get stuck into this (and the other bits). i have a 2nd car at the moment so i can take my time to get everything right on my car for the goodies. will definately keep everyone updated
 
Good to hear things are alright with your mum Twilight. Hope she gets better!


Take your time and get this project done. I can't wait to see it when its all ready to go. Keep up the good work.
 
Twilight - do you have rubber brake lines or some stainless steel braided lines?

My SS brake lines are awesome. I did 8 70-10mph brake slams after I installed them and no fade on stock brakes and pads.

I do believe that if someone does a brake upgrade they WILL need stickier tires. The stock brakes do a great job of slowing the car quickly without fading all the way up to the point the tires lock up.

If you put bigger brakes on the front, how hard would it be to put the stock fronts on the rear? You'd get vented rotors but nothing else compared to the rears. The bias should be set more to the front in that scenerio anyways.
 
stainless. it's the only way to go.

it wouldnt be too difficult to put the front rotors on the rear, but you will need a new caliper. putting the front caliper on the rear isnt a good idea - will throw your brake bias off big time!
 
If you're putting larger brakes on the front, you should be manually adjusting your bias anyways.

If you did them at the same time the stock bias(er) I assume would work fine if (and this is a big if)... if the surface area of the hydraulic contact to the piston was the same for both brakes. This is true for the stocks I believe (again I assume).

Let me explain... Assume a neutral bias, and equal length lines. All 4 brakes get the same pressure and flow when the pedal is depressed. Now throw brakes on the front with a larger surface area piston (lets assume that it takes a larger volume of fluid to displace the piston the same distance as the stock brake). When you press the pedal, the pressure is less, so the braking force is now more biased to the rear.

When you consider that the brake bias is somewhere around 65/35 (front/rear) and you add a larger brake in the front, the bias becomes more neutral because of what I explained above. This is bad, because say for example the bias is now 60/40. The rear brake is working more and the front brake less than stock. Less than stock?!?!, but you put bigger brakes on there for MORE stopping power. This is why you should replace the stock bias(er thing) with something adjustable.

I wrote this pretty quickly so let me know if i screwed something up.
 
there i no need to adjust the bias with the rx7 4 piston calipers. the rx7 uses the same master cylinder as our cars. the car is very well balanced at the moment. and the front single piston is huge. far bigger than the rear piston
 
That's awesome, now where do I get a set??

I would still think you would want to bias more brake to the front with the larger capacity of the new calipers. May not be worth the price though.
 
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